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What would you consider a Deadly Sin in geocaching? What irks you most? I'm compiling a list for an event...

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For an event...

Multiple attended at events.

 

In geocaching, throw downs - when you don't really know it's not there (or can't be bothered to look).

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Puzzle caches!

 

I don't understand why a CO would want to keep me sitting on my butt in front of the computer trying to figure out what he/she was thinking when I could be outside finding caches.

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I absolutely HATE when I'm 2 miles into the woods on hiking trails and there is precious caching space wasted on micros. You could successfully hide a car in some of the places I hike, yet I repeatedly find my self searching for incredibly long periods of time for a film container. Put some thought into your cache and make it truly worthwhile for those who are willing to make the journey to it.

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I don't know that there is anything about this hobby which causes me enough angst to raise to the level of deadly sin. If I had to reflect on which aspect I like the least, I suppose it would be Micro-Spew, defined as spitting out a low quality container at an uninspired location, with less words in the write up than are tattooed on Rosie O'Donnell's backside, (or a copy/paste title and write up), and repeating ad nauseum, dozens, if not hundreds of times.

 

Not that there is anything wrong with Micro-Spew, so long as the caches conform to the guidelines. Many folks love them, as they offer an easy means to mindlessly increase their find counts. But I am unlikely to ever be a proponent of them. For the most part, I try to ignore them. Sometimes I'll hear, through word of mouth, of a way kewl micro somewhere. Then I find myself having to sort through trache to find treasure.

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Ooh... Roman reminded me.

Creating an awesome puzzle, with a final which is a crappy container in a crappy location. :blink:

Not really a deadly sin, but certainly a let down. <_<

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Posting spoilers to puzzles without the owners consent, leading to archival- GC4B3NA. If you cannot solve it, then ignore it. Believing you are entitled to disrespect the person who created it, out of lazyness or arrogance is a bad idea.

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Stealing Geocoins and Travel Bugs; especially the coins because I think most coins are taken by "adults" while many TBs are taken by kids for the toys attached. I wouldn't even mind so much that they took the toys if they left the tags.

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Smartphone era lame logs. Which I will define as two words or less (i.e. "found it"), although they most frequently take the form of "Tftc". Drives me absolutely bonkers. And the handful of people who slip through the cracks, and continue to lame log after hiding caches of their own, and finding several hundred or more. They really drive me bonkers. :mad:

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I love puzzles. They extend this hobby for me beyond "just outdoors". I can partake while stuck in an airport, etc. and solve puzzles.

 

What Irks me is when people spoil puzzles. It comes across as a pathetic attempt to stroke one's e-peen and in the process, ruining the game for others. Very selfish.

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Cachers who find the time to go out and find or place caches, yet don't maintain the caches they already have out.

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I got a good one..

 

Those who find oodles of caches but don't give back by hiding <and maintaining> their own.

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Cachers who do not hide the container back properly. The cache is hidden behind a rock to keep the bear away. Please put the rock in front of the cache again. Thank you.

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I got a good one..

 

Those who find oodles of caches but don't give back by hiding <and maintaining> their own.

 

Eh, there was never much support for "giving back" around here. One of my bestest Geo pals has a little over 7,000 finds and has placed exactly two micros, one of which is an LPC at a coffee shop And is actually on my ignore list, I kid you not. I'm not so sure she knows that, now that I mention it. :lol: But I digress, I'm totally on board with people who find oodles of caches, but don't maintain their own. Which applies, in my experience, to most people who find oodles of caches. :ph34r:

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People who put out NEW caches when many of their old ones are either:

 

1) missing or

2) gross or

3) logbook full or

4) poor coordinates or

5) archived, but container is still there :unsure:

 

:rolleyes:

 

I find number 5 most disgusting. I mean, how gross it is to archive your cache, then just leave it there as trash, all the while placing new caches.

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Micros listed as small. I found 5 in the last couple of days. One was a button nano. dry.gif

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Ooh... Roman reminded me.

Creating an awesome puzzle, with a final which is a crappy container in a crappy location. :blink:

Not really a deadly sin, but certainly a let down. dry.gif

 

Yes! When I make the extra effort to solve a puzzle I want the CO to make the extra effort to reward puzzle solvers with a quality swag size container in at least a decent location. It's about the total caching experience not just solving the puzzle. I could buy a PennyDell puzzle book if all I want to do is solve puzzles.

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less words in the write up than are tattooed on Rosie O'Donnell's backside

 

Good Lord man. :blink: That's like owning one of the new Oregon 650's with the GGZ file format and only downloading two P&G's on it. :lol:

One thing that bothers me is that people ask for the answers to EarthCaches be posted at the beginning of the listing so they don't have to take time to read the description. :huh:

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When I make the extra effort to solve a puzzle I want the CO to make the extra effort to reward puzzle solvers with a quality swag size container in at least a decent location.

I totally agree. Admittedly, my first puzzle ends up in a pretty boring spot with a small container, but the rest of my puzzles end in much better locations with decent-sized containers. My flagship cache ends with a large regular with an outstanding view.

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Ooh, ooh, I've got a good one.

 

Cut and paste logs. :rolleyes:

 

I hit the road at 4 am and found 5000 caches before dinner. I'm sure your cache was lovely, but I can't remember a thing about it. Plus it will likely be muggled soon because I didn't bother rehiding it properly as I was in such a rush. Also, I don't know a nano from an ammo can so I'm writing you this cut and paste log. p.s. Please hide more smilies caches.
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Demanding that others change the way they go geocaching to accommodate your side game.

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Probably the thing that I dislike the most is what I would call "avoidable muggle stress".

 

Now I prefer non-urban caching. And I understand that in an urban environment often muggle avoidance will be part of the task. And I can choose if I want to do those or not.

 

But what I dislike is... I'm out in the countryside, where there is lots of space away from houses, but the cache is hidden on a sign right outside someone's window.

This gets compounded if there is no hint, or the hint isn't helpful. I.e. if you are going to make me look in a place overlooked by local muggles, then at least give a clear hint so I can do it quickly.

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Cachers who move from NJ to Washington, then ask silly questions in the forums.

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Putting a puzzle solving group on Facebook where anyone can ask for a puzzle to be solved for them.

 

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'Cut and paste' or TFTC logs. Not sure either would fall under the 'deadly sin' category but they are kind of annoying.

 

OT- we miss you here on the right coast, hope all is well.

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Throwdowns

 

Yep, its annoying, particularly by the 5th time you have to go out and remove the throwdown only to find your cache was right were you hid it in the first place.

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Demanding that others change the way they go geocaching to accommodate your side game.

 

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Hiders placing the cache where there is obviously a history of rubbish, there is clearly rubbish when they placed it and there is no doubt always going to be further rubbish in the future. Even more frustrating when there is a perfectly acceptable hiding place about 50m away.

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Caches listed & published before the container is placed at GZ.

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Cachers who move from NJ to Washington, then ask silly questions in the forums.

 

Jerk! :ph34r: The biggest Irk is when an anonymous reviewer leaves a will attend from their caching account :lol:

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Caches listed & published before the container is placed at GZ.

That has happened to me twice by the same account. Our State Park service has a geocaching program. The listings go live before the geocaches arrive in the mail for the Rangers to place. :blink: Dat's gubernmet wurk 4 u. :laughing:

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Wondering where my TB, or one I'm watching, is. Logs such as, "This cache is packed full of trackables, so I decided to take a couple and leave one behind." are maddening. My TB still appears in the inventory, but current logs indicate that there are no TBs in the cache. The simple fix is to mention every TB you put into or take out of a cache. It leaves a nice audit trail!

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Wondering where my TB, or one I'm watching, is. Logs such as, "This cache is packed full of trackables, so I decided to take a couple and leave one behind." are maddening. My TB still appears in the inventory, but current logs indicate that there are no TBs in the cache. The simple fix is to mention every TB you put into or take out of a cache. It leaves a nice audit trail!

That's one of my main issues, too. I have a TB now that's been listed in a cache for over a year. The cache has been found about 3 times since the TB was placed there, and none of the logs mention it.

If I find a cache with more TBs than I want to take, I write down the tracking numbers of all the ones I leave there, so I can leave a "discover" log. I figure that should assure the owner that the bug is where it's listed. If I find a TB there that's not listed there, I'll grab it and place it there (especially if it's obviously been there a while). If there's a TB listed there that I don't see, I post a note on the TB's page.

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Logged from my phone using the Geocache Navigator by TrimblePeople who are too lazy to turn off the stupid ad in their software, forcing the rest of us to read through it to get to the content of their log, if any.

As a result, I hate Trimble with a passion, and will never ever buy anything with that name on it. Score -1 for advertising.

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On the TB issue, caches that supposedly have TBs in them, but don't, because neither the TB owner nor the cache owner takes the responsibility to mark them missing, and those of us that would like to can't do anything about it.

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Cachers who place caches on road signs within 20 feet of someone's front door or window. Then warning cachers to use extreme stealth so as to not alert those living there. Even though it's public property, doesn't mean it's the smartest place to hide a cache. Found two of these and promptly put the rest on ignore.

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1: Puzzle Caches. Put them in another category, like the now-defunct Challenges.

A: If you have to put one out...

(1): Put a geo-checker on the web page.

(2): make the actual geocache commensurate with the puzzle difficulty. A 4.0/1.5 puzzle is just lazy and rude.

2: Crappy hints. The hint section is for giving a hint if you wish to. It is NOT for writing "are you kidding" or "none needed", or some other such junk.

3: Caches placed under the watchful eyes of the world, such as by the front window of a store, or the bush next to your doctors office. Really? Is that the best you can do?

4: Micros placed where you could hide a freight train.

5: LPC's. The first 2-3 were neat, the last 10,000 are not.

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I love all the feedback here!! Some obvious, some new to me.

 

Most annoying to me are all the pointless caches all over the city with no real purpose or challenge...not to say I don't like the find, but I'd love to find some more creative caches...everything is just a film canister or micro hidden to death.

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Nanos with wet logs or the nano just in general

 

Wet logs ,cracked geocaches

 

Food or perfumes and stuff that you kinda sit there and think man why would u put that in there its killing the cache

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1: Puzzle Caches. Put them in another category, like the now-defunct Challenges.

A: If you have to put one out...

(2): make the actual geocache commensurate with the puzzle difficulty. A 4.0/1.5 puzzle is just lazy and rude.

 

This makes little sense to me. *shrug*

 

Should a traditional in a high T area *also* be hard to find? I have found a bunch of obvious ammo can's in T4 areas. I don't see why you would hold puzzles to a different standard.

 

Why should a difficult puzzle **ALSO** need to be in difficult terrain? Just not logical.

 

That being said, I agree with your other point. Put a geo-checker on the web page. Especially if the location is hard to get to.

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