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I have been reading in other threads about a possible frequencies to use when Geocaching and people saying that a lot of times that “other frequencies are often designated as hailing/simplex frequencies in particular geographic regions making the adoption of a National Geocaching Frequency difficult at best.” I say so what? That’s why we have band plans. At least here in the USA it is valid. I was looking at the band plan at the ARRLWeb (US Band Plan) and I picked these frequencies that I thought looked like they might be best for Geocaching use. We really need to have some national frequencies that we use. What good is it if everyone is using different frequencies? A lot of people don’t print out the cache page, and some people (like me) don’t want to have to be programming yet another frequency for just one cache. And how are we supposed to remember from cache to cache what they are using for this and that one? I personally would like to be able to go into an area that I haven’t been before and be able to call CQ (it IS ok to call CQ on voice and even on a repeater they do it on HF a lot, why not on the VHF and up in FM mode?) and be able to talk to a local geocacher and find out where there are some cool geocaches.

 

Anyway! Enough ranting for now. It would be much better if we picked a national frequency to use, and that’s why I am posting this here. So we can figure out what might work best. Don’t worry about interfering with some one else… listen first before you key up! icon_cool.gif

 

Here’s what I think would work:

 

6M: 52.540 (Listed as Secondary FM simplex in the band plan)

2M: 147.500 (That would put it right in the middle of the “147.42-147.57 Simplex” sub band)

70CM (AKA 440): 446.025 (in the middle of the 445.00-447.00 Shared by auxiliary and control links, repeaters and simplex (local option) sub band 25Khz off of the National simplex frequency)(this line edited 10/2 10:30pm eastern)

 

What are your thoughts on using these frequencies? (And don’t reply just saying that we shouldn’t pick a national frequency. Let’s work out a frequency that will work most places. I would like to hear from Hams that aren’t in the USA to let me know if these frequencies will work with the band plan there. Thanks!

 

Noel W8TVI

 

[This message was edited by w8tvi on October 02, 2002 at 09:01 AM.]

 

[This message was edited by W8TVI on October 02, 2002 at 07:32 PM.]

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I think we would be re-inventing the wheel here. With the FRS stuff, this had never before been done. But with ham radio, we have a long established system already in place and accepted. We already have national simplex calling frequencies established in the USA of 52.525, 146.52, 446.000, and others. Although not monitored as much as some repeaters, they are monitored. By designating something else as a GEOCACHING frequency, you are taking away from that monitoring system. This is a different situation from the FRS channel thread, where no clear calling freqs have ever been established.

 

What I would suggest is this. Monitor the national calling frequency even when geocaching. Not only will it allow a nationally known and approved channel to be monitored, but it may also allow you to establish contact with non-geocachers and promote our "other" hobby. Should you find another geocacher in the area, you can always decide to move off the call channel if desired.

 

One other note. The national band plan for the 440 band is 25Khz channels, 446.000, 446.025, etc. Also, this band plan would NOT work in most other parts of the world, as we are lucky to have 146-148, and 440-450, both of which are not allowed in most of the world. AND LAST.... using the national calling frequencies WILL work everywhere in the U.S. Of course, other countries have their own calling freqs, like Germany uses 145.500 and 145.550, called S-20 and S-22 IIRC.

 

Just my opinion.

 

Mike. KD9KC.

El Paso, Texas.

 

Citizens of this land may own guns. Not to threaten their neighbors, but to ensure themselves of liberty and freedom.

 

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[This message was edited by KD9KC on October 02, 2002 at 06:43 PM.]

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Any one else have anything to say? (other than we shouldn't do this)

 

I really think we should have a freq for geocaching stated in other threads. if we move off the calling freq how will some one know were we moved to?

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Monitoring 146.520 would mean listening to all kinds of HAMS (not that the freq gets that much action around here)

 

Monitoring 147.500 would mean listening to HAMS that are Geocaching.

 

Since 2M rigs usually have more power and better antenna systems than FRS, you would probably be able to contact folks working on other caches (in a cache dense area)... and that might be kind of interesting.

 

Also... monitoring 147.500 while traveling might be kind of interesting... driving through a new area on a road-trip and have the "cache channel" light up

 

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Originally posted by W8TVI:

Any one else have anything to say? (other than we shouldn't do this)

 

I really think we should have a freq for geocaching stated in other threads. if we move off the calling freq how will some one know were we moved to?


 

Why would you move off a calling freq unless you were already in a QSO? Then, you'd decide where to go...probably to a local repeater.

 

ApK

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Originally posted by W8TVI:

I really think we should have a freq for geocaching stated in other threads. if we move off the calling freq how will some one know were we moved to?


 

Well, so choose one. Then all you need to do is convince the rest of the geocaching ham community to quit monitoring whatever they are currently monitoring be it repeater of National Call channel, and monitor your suggested freq instead. Don't know about in your area, but it will be a non-starter in my area. For myself, and the several locals, we will continue to do what is working for us reguardless of any suggested change. Sorry, that's just the way it is. There isn't enough activity in the desert to make a second channel necessary out here. We will continue to use the national call, and the local repeater.

 

Mike. KD9KC.

El Paso, Texas.

 

Citizens of this land may own guns. Not to threaten their neighbors, but to ensure themselves of liberty and freedom.

 

They are not assault weapons anymore... they are HOMELAND DEFENSE WEAPONS!

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What I'd like to know is why people don’t do like I do. I have a VX-5R and I program in different freq I want to monitor and let it scan them. Most rigs made for the last 10 to 15 years can scan channels that you program in freqs that you want to monitor. Does everyone lock their radios on to one freq and never change it? icon_confused.gif "I'm going to monitor 146.52 and nothing else! icon_mad.gif"

 

I have my radio setup so that I can monitor lots of stuff, including the freqs above and I'll be monitoring those 3 when I go Geocaching.

 

That is one of the reasons I hardly EVER turn my HT on, and I almost NEVER talk to anyone on it anymore. There are too many pigheaded "pro-coders" that are convinced that if you have no interest in CW that you are stupid and lazy.

And anyone who mentions IRLP or the like are put down. "That’s not REAL RADIO©".

 

I don't care if you like CW and have fun with it. Just don't force me to have anything to do with it. I have found that real Elmers have all but died out. We have one ham here in our neck of the woods that takes every chance he can get to put down No-Coders and "slow-coders" just because we didn't have to do it the way he did it. Ham Radio isn't dead yet, but if we let these people that don't want change have their way... It will die.

 

We use to be on the leading edge. What happened?

 

[RANT MODE OFF]

 

We now return you to your regularly scheduled topic.

 

Sorry for the rant… had to let that out.

And no KD9KC, I was NOT aiming that at you.

 

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[This message was edited by W8TVI on October 04, 2002 at 09:26 AM.]

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Originally posted by W8TVI:

What I'd like to know is why people don’t do like I do.

 

There are too many pigheaded "pro-coders" that are convinced that if you have no interest in CW that you are stupid and lazy.

And anyone who mentions IRLP or the like are put down. "That’s not REAL RADIO©".

 

Just put it on channel 19, you'll get smokey reports, and guaranteed....no "pro-coders".

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Originally posted by W8TVI:

We use to be on the leading edge. What happened?

 

[RANT MODE OFF]


 

Yup...I made a similar complaint in another thread...I seem to have missed the age of experimentation...now the ham communities seems to only want people to do what everyone else is doing.

 

I want to develop a start-trek communicatior badge! Where's that fit in the band plan? :-)

 

ApK

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I don't care if it was aimed at me or not. Yes, I did the 20 WPM, and consider myself an "EXTRA CLASSIC" Those of you who came later are still hams, still may have the extra class license, and still had a large part of it given to you. But that is the way of the world now, and I don't care about that either. I have never cared what the rest of the world does, as long as I am comfortable with myself. And I am, so the rest just doesn't matter. We all know how we earned what we have... satisfy yourself.... don't matter none to me.... pointed or not.

 

And don't let code ability get confused with technical ability. I am on AO-40 mode U/S. Built and assembled most of the 2401 MHz system right here. Re-designing the dish, going to weld it up this winter, add a .5dB NF pre-amp, and looking for another 2dB gain from the dish. Get an extra 3 dB © with a home-brew helix feed. Hoping to hear the transponder noise floor at 60,000 km. Anyone else? I have a WORKING X-band radar that I bought broke, and repaired myself. It is a real scream when you fire it up on the highway, and watch those truckers lock up the breaks when their detectors jump off the dash. Anyone else? How about a water cooled 15 watt YAG laser, formerly used for eye surgery till it went unstable. Laser communication is fun, ever try it?

 

Here in our area, in the mountains, you can work one of two repeaters depending on where you are, or it is simplex. We have only a few geocaching hams, but many more hams than geocachers. For our needs, the national simplex channels work just fine, when the repeaters are not accessable. Of course, you may do as you wish, and best of luck to you. We are comfortable with our situation, and feel no compelling need to exile ourselves from the rest of the ham community just because we are geocaching that day.

 

Many of them on the "National Calling Channel" actually listen to us, and even request us to flash our signal mirrors from the mountain so they can see where we are. That is particularly fun for the ones who can no longer make it. We have listened to many a story of "When I was younger, I hiked up to that spring. Was the summer of 1958 I think...." and other such stuff.

 

What I am saying is, do it if you think you need to, but we do not share that need. What is already established "Nationwide" is good enough for us here. YMMV.

 

Oh, BTW, I don't care if you are doing what I am doing or not. If you are interested, I will tell you about it. If not, no matter, we are having fun here in any case.

 

Mike. KD9KC.

El Paso, Texas.

 

Citizens of this land may own guns. Not to threaten their neighbors, but to ensure themselves of liberty and freedom.

 

They are not assault weapons anymore... they are HOMELAND DEFENSE WEAPONS!

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Originally posted by W8TVI:

Ham Radio isn't dead yet, but if we let these people that don't want change have their way... It will die.


 

Hmmmm.... so if some hams have a system that works for what they are doing, but it doesn't conform to what YOU want them to do, they they are contributing to the death of ham radio? A most interesting concept indeed!

 

quote:

We use to be on the leading edge. What happened?


 

Nobody is on the leading edge anymore. Costs too much, I cannot afford a full electronics lab. I am happy that I have a 250 MHz O'scope and a 1.5 GHz Spectrum Amalyzer on my test-bench. However, some of us are still moving forward. If you are not, then why not? There is surly enough out there for you to contribute. Some day I will tell you how AMTOR was developed by a few hams in Europe in the early 1980s. We had a link running from near Plymouth, Great Britain, to Lake Constance Hamfest, Germany. It ran all weekend long on 40 meters, with just 7 watts output. Look up G3PLX, G3KFN, DL9BBK, and DA1WJ. Also note, G3PLX and PSK-31... does it mean anything to you? Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't happenning.

 

I am through with this thread. Go ahead and declare whatever freqs you think Geocaching should use. Heck, you could be right. The geocaching ham community might just beat a path to your door to thank you for the better mouse trap. Let me know if I need to eat crow, OK?

 

If you ever come geocaching in El Paso, try 146.88 -600 on the north end of the mountains, 146.700 -600 and 444.200 +5.00 on the south end of the mountains, and 146.52 or 446.00 where the repeaters don't reach into the canyons. That is where the action is around here, and it suits the community just fine. Change for a reason = GOOD. Change for change sake = BAD. Simple as that.

 

Good luck. Let me know about the crow.

 

Mike. KD9KC.

El Paso, Texas.

 

Citizens of this land may own guns. Not to threaten their neighbors, but to ensure themselves of liberty and freedom.

 

They are not assault weapons anymore... they are HOMELAND DEFENSE WEAPONS!

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146.880 -600 136.5 pl, or 147.180 +600 136.5 pl, OR 146.52 sim, 147.52 sim (our IRLP node. Number 826), or on 7.294 lsb at 7pm.

 

Keep it simple folks. Use your "Calling Channel"

for your particular "channel". 146.52 for 2mtr Hams. What ever freq for FRS......

 

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But, i agree with some of the tenents proclaimed in earlier parts of this thread "use whatever works wherever you should be and with whom you have prearranged with". I have travelled all over the West coast with 146.52 left on in the background (as well as giving a my call occasionally) and it is still very rare to hear anything other than sporadic interference and rarely other hams. From now on whenever I am caching I will monitor and give my call on one of the nat calling freqs.

 

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How come your web site link does'nt work?

 

Also, I am thinking of doing a 2-3 day cache expedition to Crescent City area during Thanksgiving break (approx Nov 23-30). So maybe I'll give you'all a shout while I'm up there. Starting to run out of caches down here to do. (Which of course means I have a few caches to place, and will do so soon)

-UA

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My wife (KF6VFI) was having aproblem with one of her host providers so alot of her PERSONAL website are not up and running. Here is another one (www.w6hy.org) she had designed for our local ham club.

 

KD9KC, I don't know if your still reading this but you might have come off JUST a little hard. But you do have very solid and valid point and will back you 100%.

 

73's boys and girls and after they update the IRLP node I'll give the new number so you can give me a call. The old one is 826. Call ANY time......

 

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Originally posted by Steak N Eggs:

KD9KC, I don't know if your still reading this but you might have come off JUST a little hard. But you do have very solid and valid point and will back you 100%.


 

Naaaa.... I am just a very direct person. In the army, I didn't "neutralize the opposition", I killed the enemy! Etc etc. I just call it as I see it. As I told him, do what he thinks is right, but the established freqs are good enough for us. I am not going to tell my friends "Look, I will be on the 147.160 repeater, except when I am out of range, then I will be on national simplex, except when I am geocaching, then I will be on 146.xxx, the national geocaching channel. I wouldn't expect them to remember all of that, and I wouldn't expect to have anyone to talk to. Where will it end? Do we have a separate freq for going to and coming from a cache? What about if we take a different route back? See what I mean? My army experience tells me the more complicated it gets, the more likely it will fail! National Simplex is good enough for me, when I can't hit the repeaters.

 

Mike. KD9KC.

El Paso, Texas.

 

Citizens of this land may own guns. Not to threaten their neighbors, but to ensure themselves of liberty and freedom.

 

They are not assault weapons anymore... they are HOMELAND DEFENSE WEAPONS!

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Originally posted by AD0OR:

I like 147.5, that's a good idea


 

There you go! Are you guys in range of each other?

 

Mike. KD9KC.

El Paso, Texas.

 

Citizens of this land may own guns. Not to threaten their neighbors, but to ensure themselves of liberty and freedom.

 

They are not assault weapons anymore... they are HOMELAND DEFENSE WEAPONS!

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don't reinvent calling frequencies. 146.52 is one of the 200 freqs I scan while mobile, and I rarely hear anything on it.

 

N2JAC

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146.52 is fine to call out but if I am bringing my handi to geocache with other hams then I would probably move off to some other simplex freq and 147.5 would be a good choice.

 

If I am geocaching then I am not yaking on my local repeater and don't want to listen to it or be talking to some ham driving on the interstate. I am in the woods. I want quiet.

 

Maybe we could pick a Geocache PL tone for 146.52 then I could monitor it while geocaching and if it opens up I know it is a geocacher calling CQ.

 

I don't want to monitor 52 for anything but geocachers if I am geocaching. To me the idea is to monitor to see if anyone else is caching the same cache as me and then maybe having an eyeball QSO with them

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Originally posted by orange:

If I am geocaching then I am not yaking on my local repeater and don't want to listen to it or be talking to some ham driving on the interstate. I am in the woods. I want quiet.


 

I'm just a few miles south of you, and quiet has not been a problem on the 2M callign freq...I've been monitoring it on and off since I got my HT a couple of months ago, and I haven't heard a single call!

 

ApK

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Originally posted by ApK:

 

I'm just a few miles south of you, and quiet has not been a problem on the 2M callign freq...I've been monitoring it on and off since I got my HT a couple of months ago, and I haven't heard a single call!

 

ApK


 

Well, the last time I left my HT on while caching, two hams were ragchewing on 52 so I quickly turned it off. I didn't want to listen to them while walking to the cache.

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Discussion 1

 

Discussion 2

 

Discussion 3

 

Discussion 4

 

Seems that the subject of a GeoCaching frequency has pretty much been discussed/debated to death ...or at least to the point where FRS was seen to be the answer when it comes to 'on-site' use (equipment low in cost and easily obtained, no licence required, band/power suitable for typical short range GeoCaching applications).

 

Terry

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what do previous discussions about FRS have to do with a HAM 2M freq?

 

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Originally posted by Raouljan:

what do previous discussions about FRS have to do with a HAM 2M freq?


 

I was thinking the same thing, but if the goal is to hear other geocachers and NOT hear other hams ragchewing, perhaps the best plan IS to simply turn off the HT and turn on an FRS radio while caching. Or, tune the HT to FRS/GMRS channel 2, if you have one that can do it.

 

Unless the goal is to only contact other geocaching hams....?

 

ApK

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Originally posted by Raouljan:

"...what do previous discussions about FRS have to do with a HAM 2M freq?..."


 

Where in this forum does it state that all that's being discussed is a 2M freq? In fact, if you look at the lead post by the person who started the discussion, there's freqs listed across no less than 3 amateur bands.

 

You're not one of those stuck-up amateur radio elitists who wears their ticket on their sleeve and winces at the very mention of an unlicenced radio service, are you...?

 

Terry

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Originally posted by ApK:

"...I was thinking the same thing, but if the goal is to hear other geocachers and NOT hear other hams ragchewing, perhaps the best plan IS to simply turn off the HT and turn on an FRS radio while caching. Or, tune the HT to FRS/GMRS channel 2, if you have one that can do it..."


 

Exactly!

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FRS is fine but if you are a ham then you are going to make a choice. Either bring an HT or bring an FRS. I have enough stuff in my daypack and don't want any extra weight. I am not carrying two radios.

 

The calling freqs are probably a good choice I just want to suggest a PL tone on them for geocaching then I can set my HT to only open if a geocacher is calling CQ.

 

I am going to check tones and suggest one. I will be back later.

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Originally posted by orange:

FRS is fine but if you are a ham then you are going to make a choice. Either bring an HT or bring an FRS. I have enough stuff in my daypack and don't want any extra weight. I am not carrying two radios.

 

The calling freqs are probably a good choice I just want to suggest a PL tone on them for geocaching then I can set my HT to only open if a geocacher is calling CQ.

 

I am going to check tones and suggest one. I will be back later.


 

If you want to limit your potential 'geocaching' radio contacts to other amateur radio operators, than I suppose your approach makes sense (and I've totally missed the object of this discussion). If, however, the aim is to increase the odds of your being able to make radio contact with a fellow geocacher while hunting for the same cache (again, correct me if I've missed the point in all of this), my money would be on those contacts - as rare as they would be at the best of times - being via FRS ...if for no other reason than the 'math'; simply put, the nature and proliferation of FRS radios makes the likelihood of them being the average geocacher's two-way radio of choice far greater than any amateur HT ...regardless of band.

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All I'm saying is I'm going to be most likely bringing only my HT so that shot in the dark of finding another geocacher is going to be real small and only for hams. But if I was caching I'd leave my HT on if I knew I was not going to be hearing other chatter that I have no interest in while caching. (Other places and times I'd listen.)

 

I am not going to bring an FRS radio and leave it on. Same problem I don't want to hear other idle chatter while in the woods plus don't want to buy anymore alkalines or a new battery charger system.

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That active HAMs carry their HTs all the time. If you are an active HAM and your are geocaching, you have your HT with you anyway. It is not an "extra", but goes on with your belt in the morning.

 

Soooo... let's say that you are a HAM out geocahing... to what would you rather listen?

A group of other HAMs talking about life, the universe and everything?

Or another geocahcher?

 

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Originally posted by Raouljan:

"...active HAMs carry their HTs all the time. If you are an active HAM and your are geocaching, you have your HT with you anyway. It is not an "extra", but goes on with your belt in the morning..."


 

...is that so? Is the HT worn on your left or righthand side (I just want to make sure I get this *active* HAM etiquette down pat). Do I also need to get myself one of those nylon-mesh ball caps with my callsign emblazoned on the front in 2" iron-on letters? icon_rolleyes.gif

 

quote:
Originally posted by Raouljan:

"...let's say that you are a HAM out geocahing... to what would you rather listen? A group of other HAMs talking about life, the universe and everything? Or another geocahcher?..."


 

If I'm GeoCaching, I think I'd get a much bigger kick out of bumping into another GeoCacher on-air who's hunting for the same cache as I am; if the odds of that happening are better on the FRS band, that's the radio I'll be carrying ...and I'll leave my Yaesu FT-415 at home.

 

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HT is to be worn on the right side, near, but not over, the right rear pocket.

 

Hat with call-sign requires 2.543 inch letters. Hat is to be dark and letters are to be white. Lettering is to be CAC Leslie font.

 

Got it?

 

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Originally posted by Raouljan:

HT is to be worn on the right side, near, but not over, the right rear pocket.

 

Hat with call-sign requires 2.543 inch letters. Hat is to be dark and letters are to be white. Lettering is to be CAC Leslie font.

 

Got it?

 

>Personally Responsible for the Recovery of .00244% of the Benchmark Database!<--watch this number!


 

Thank goodness we both share a dry sense of humour icon_smile.gif ! A lesser man would have launched into a multi-paragraph tirade, but instead you bounced back with a perfect (and well received) foil ...I like you!

 

Cheers.

 

Terry.

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Originally posted by Raouljan:

That active HAMs carry their HTs all the time. If you are an active HAM and your are geocaching, you have your HT with you anyway. It is not an "extra", but goes on with your belt in the morning.

 

Soooo... let's say that you are a HAM out geocahing... to what would you rather listen?

A group of other HAMs talking about life, the universe and everything?

Or another geocahcher?

 

>Personally Responsible for the Recovery of .00244% of the Benchmark Database!<--watch this number!


 

cuz they'd probably have access to an autopatch i could use to call my wife and tell her i was gonna be late (again)

 

Marty Fouts

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Originally posted by Raouljan:

Hat with call-sign requires 2.543 inch letters. Hat is to be dark and letters are to be white. Lettering is to be CAC Leslie font.


 

Darn! I knew they screwed up! They made my letters 2.6 inches! I look like a freakin' geek with these huge letters on my hat!

 

ApK

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Speaking of protocols here's a new one I may try.

 

I get to park to cache at. Call CQ on 146.52 with 100.0 PL tone encode on. "Any Geocachers about? K2EMJ calling."

 

Then listen for a minute or two.

 

Then switch HT to 146.52 with 100.0 encode and decode on.

 

If any one else calls with 100.0 my HT will open and I can give a call back if they CQ for geocachers.

 

I realize that not many are reading this forum and will not use a 100.0 tone but if I call once at start then I may hear some one.

 

And I can have a quiet radio in the woods on my hunt unless another geocacher calls with the 100.0 tone.

 

I picked a 100.0 just cause it is easy to remember and most want to get to a 100 finds.

 

Just my 2 cents.

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It seems to me that a lot of GeoCachers may be active in SAR (search & rescue) teams. Monitoring the nationally recognized frequencies is a good way to simplify our Geocaching as well as provide a "monitoring" of possible calls for assistance via ham radio. APRS and such are great assets to SAR, and having a "GPS literate" person on the other end of the radio may make a difference in the beginning minutes of a SAR mission.

 

K7SYD, Renton, WA

 

Ian Wallace, Renton WA

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A number of years ago this protocol was adopted byt he ARRL, and other organizations to provide some directions for those in need of help, or willing to listen for those needing help.

 

The protocol is fairly simple. At 7AM, and every three hours thereafter, the first 10 minutes on 146.52 are to be used for calling "MayDay" if you are lost or hurt. :10 to :15 for initiating general QSOs.

 

I tend to monitor .52 all the time when hiking, unless close enough to home to use our local repeater.

 

Our scout troop does also, and uses .52 to keep things together on the trail. If others are using this freq much we just QSY to 146.55 or .58.

 

It might provide a public service if anyone out in the rough were to monitor 146.52, at least in keeping with the "Wilderness Protocol".

 

My two cents worth, refunds available on request.

 

73's de Dave, W6DPS

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7am to 7pm every 3 hours.

 

BUT (I think)

 

First 4 minutes are for Mayday.

 

After that calls to see who might be within range.

 

I don't think emergency period is 10 minutes long.

 

Unless it has been changed recently.

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I vote for geocachers that are hams, who also have outty belly buttons.......AND can only talk in the Extra Class portion of the band icon_wink.gif

 

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quote:
Originally posted by Raouljan:

Monitoring 146.520 would mean listening to all kinds of HAMS (not that the freq gets that much action around here)

 

Monitoring 147.500 would mean listening to HAMS that are Geocaching.

 

Since 2M rigs usually have more power and better antenna systems than FRS, you would probably be able to contact folks working on other caches (in a cache dense area)... and that might be kind of interesting.

 

Also... monitoring 147.500 while traveling might be kind of interesting... driving through a new area on a road-trip and have the "cache channel" light up

 

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I would say stay with 146.520, Lets not forget the band plan recomends the 146.520 only be used as a calling freq. Then you should move to another freq. in 15 KC steps for your QSO. Say to 146.505 or 146.535 ect.

 

73

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I would like to see the Nat'l freqs used and then moves of freq as needed. Every year I drive across this great nation with my rigs locked on the Nat'l freqs and out of 8 trips, I have had exactly 2 QSO's - not for lack of trying. Plain and simple - I don't think there's enough traffic to warrant moving away from what's there, and we may very well actually be there when someone needs us.

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"We use to be on the leading edge. What happened?"

 

Well, let me think,....

 

Cbers putting Ham frequencies in.....

 

Technology moved off the table and into the dedicated microprocessors, so people are not doing the electronics themselves.....

 

No one is into rabbit runs ( ham transmitter hnts, just like geocaching...)

 

(I have a 10 meter that hasn't been ON in 12 years....)(actually a RCI 2950) (got it from Bill Good)

 

Jeff

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