+NW_history_buff Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 Fellow Waymarkers, A Pergolas Group is established (has been for a few years) and a category writeup is in the works. Once complete, it will be posted here in the forum for input before it is sent out for Peer Review. I appreciate the input from the few of you who've responded to my previous topic regarding adding Pergolas to the Gazebos category as a variable. The officers of the Gazebos category haven't shown any interest in adding Pergolas to their category and from the feedback I received, it's apparent that the Pergolas are deserving of a category to themselves. The potential Pergolas category will obviously require submissions to be artistic in value and interesting, architecturally and NOT a run-of-the-mill type of structure that would be considered commonplace. Pergolas with some historical value and a story to tell behind it get bonus points. Being an art major myself, I am pretty good at deciphering between what is considered aesthetically pleasing and what is not, and as leader of the group, I'll be monitoring each waymark submission. The category will include photo examples of both to help waymarkers make that decision before they submit something. I'm excited to see what's out there in the world of Pergolas! If you want to read up on these structures, click here. I've waymarked two pergolas in other categories and you can see my examples here and here. More to come! thebeav69 kJfishman bluesnote silverquill Quote
+NW_history_buff Posted August 27, 2014 Author Posted August 27, 2014 As I stated in another forum topic regarding Pergolas, I am still interested in pursuing this potential category. More to come soon.... Quote
+Benchmark Blasterz Posted August 27, 2014 Posted August 27, 2014 As I stated in another forum topic regarding Pergolas, I am still interested in pursuing this potential category. More to come soon.... Yay -- I have SEVERAL photos of pergolas that would make great waymarks. Quote
+MountainWoods Posted August 27, 2014 Posted August 27, 2014 I had never heard of the term until I saw it come up in these forums. Oddly enough, I'm looking at one as I type! When we had our old, rotted, non-treated-lumber deck replaced, we had the builder extend the posts up about 8 feet, put on 2 cross beams, and then put in crosss planks on edge between the cross beams. The climbing vine is still working its way across the structure, but we hope it'll soon add desidous shade. It looks like some of the structures in the Wikipedia article on Pergolas. So here we have one, and I didn't know what it was! Quote
+silverquill Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 It would be great to see this one come to life. Quote
+NW_history_buff Posted January 31, 2015 Author Posted January 31, 2015 This potential category will need a really good writeup to categorize what best represents a pergola. There are many types and variations worldwide and pictures and/or links to websites highlighting the 'cream of the crop' will be important. I've got just enough energy to start the description but if one of you wants to tackle this as well, I'd welcome the opportunity. Quote
+Tuena Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 This potential category will need a really good writeup to categorize what best represents a pergola. There are many types and variations worldwide and pictures and/or links to websites highlighting the 'cream of the crop' will be important. I've got just enough energy to start the description but if one of you wants to tackle this as well, I'd welcome the opportunity. Pergolas in Australia are structures as described by MountainWoods - found on the sides of residences & with a deciduous vine covering them. Arbours are probably the closest to your pergola. These are found in municipal gardens & such like. They are relatively large structures covered with deciduous vines. You walk along under them & they may connect different parts of the garden, just be a means of shady relief or a garden feature. The closest I've seen to your example (not the boat house) is a covered footpath in Wollongong. A bit of info to help you along. Quote
+T0SHEA Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Hi Beav, We are all in favor of this new category getting off the ground... We are taking pictures and storing them in our uncategorize folder...waiting for a place to post them. We just joined the group, and are wondering if you still need help with the description? BK-Hunters Quote
+T0SHEA Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 So, what happened to this category? Lets get it going again, we have several to post. Quote
+NW_history_buff Posted January 25, 2016 Author Posted January 25, 2016 Wintertime is the perfect time to re-focus energies on potential categories. This potential category is very close to being finalized and hopefully we can get this to Peer Review later this week. Since Pergolas are located across the globe, there shouldn't be any flack from our European friends regarding "Is it global enough?" ... hehe. Quote
+fi67 Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 Great! I like them a lot, but not all of them. Gazebos are similar, but not that prevalent. Pergolas are over-prevalent in some parts of the world. So the category needs some restrictions and this is going to be the tricky part. BTW: The Nay votes were mostly from Australia and NZ. The European Friends were very friendly this time. Quote
+ripraff Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 As long as you are talking about not-gazebos. I have found some nice not gazebo, not bandshell, bandstands in parks. They are 4 sided, but not enclosed. Not enclosed on 3 sides means not bandshell, four-sided means not gazebo. But some of them are quite nice. Could we have a not gazebo, not bandshell, bandstand category? Quote
+The A-Team Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 The problem I can foresee with this category is the mundane, uninteresting pergolas. You know, the small, poorly-constructed, rotting ones. It'll be difficult to exclude these while still accepting the great ones. If this category goes ahead, I have a perfect example to post from my area. They were designed by a renowned local architect and have some history behind them. Quote
+elyob Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 The problem I can foresee with this category is the mundane, uninteresting pergolas. You know, the small, poorly-constructed, rotting ones. It'll be difficult to exclude these while still accepting the great ones. That challenge may put quite a burden on the reviewers. I can imagine poor examples slipping through and then being rejected long after being accepted. Quote
+NW_history_buff Posted January 27, 2016 Author Posted January 27, 2016 I've been working on the category description and cleaning it up. I'll be embedding photo examples of what we want and what we don't in the category description. These should aid both officers and submitters. I'll post results tomorrow. Quote
+NW_history_buff Posted January 28, 2016 Author Posted January 28, 2016 Here's the link to the Pergolas category: Pergolas Please look it over and give me your thoughts here. I created a collage of photos of pergolas in the description that should hopefully address what the officers are looking for in terms of quality and significance. Arbors will also be included in the category since they look very similar to pergolas and many are visually appealing. I'll probably post a few pictures of arbors that we want (and don't want) submitted. Thanks in advance for any feedback before this goes to an officer vote. Quote
+elyob Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 It looks very good. A somewhat ordinary looking pergola would be considered if the site is historical, correct? Quote
+T0SHEA Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 The problem I can foresee with this category is the mundane, uninteresting pergolas. You know, the small, poorly-constructed, rotting ones. It'll be difficult to exclude these while still accepting the great ones. That challenge may put quite a burden on the reviewers. I can imagine poor examples slipping through and then being rejected long after being accepted. Don't worry - BK-Hunters already has several that'll test the mettle of the reviewers... Quote
+NW_history_buff Posted January 28, 2016 Author Posted January 28, 2016 It looks very good. A somewhat ordinary looking pergola would be considered if the site is historical, correct? Correct. If the pergola has some interesting history attached to it to make up for its 'ordinary' look then we would gladly accept it. The key point here is that we want pergolas that would encourage a waymarker to come visit it. Quote
+dreamhummie Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 These kind of pergolas with an history are the best to Waymark. Take a ride on my E-Bike this weekend and when I'am Out Of Power I Visit an Electric Bike Charging Station. [under construction] I will also use the database of Rijksmonumenten - Dutch National Monuments. 100% sure Historical Pergolas are also to find in the database of Dutch Municipal and Provincial Heritage. [under construction] On a more serious. Sorry that I missed this (old) topic. Great to see it comes alive. This would be a great & potential global category and joined the group. But they must have a historial story to tell !!!! Grtz John. Quote
+fi67 Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 I think this looks good. I could not notice any issues at first glance, and they way it is written should exclude the uninteresting and shabby ones. Move on! Quote
+NW_history_buff Posted January 29, 2016 Author Posted January 29, 2016 The Pergolas category is up for an officer vote. Once approved, I'll send it to Peer Review. FYI, I found a neat HTML coding trick to make the image collage of pergolas to shrink and expand to the browser window size (I never imagined Waymarking would force me to educate myself on HTML coding). There is even additional HTML code I could use to make a Waymarking category more smartphone-friendly. I'll work on that later. Quote
+NW_history_buff Posted February 3, 2016 Author Posted February 3, 2016 The Pergolas has just been submitted for Peer Review! You can vote for it here. Crossing fingers... Quote
+elyob Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 When is the last time a category got 100% of the vote? Quote
+Waywizard Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 When is the last time a category got 100% of the vote? This one did not get 100%, there were 2 Nays (remember votes can be hidden). Obviously the category passed with a very high percent and has now been approved by Groundspeak. Quote
+Benchmark Blasterz Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) When is the last time a category got 100% of the vote? This one did not get 100%, there were 2 Nays (remember votes can be hidden). Obviously the category passed with a very high percent and has now been approved by Groundspeak. AWESOME!! When can we expect to see it in the grid so we can submit to it? NEVER MIND -- I found in at 53P on the category grid. It seems an odd location, since I was looking for Pergolas at the end of the grid, with the other newly-approved categories around line 55. Edited February 11, 2016 by Benchmark Blasterz Quote
+elyob Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 The new FOE category was also placed strangely in the grid. Quote
+NW_history_buff Posted February 12, 2016 Author Posted February 12, 2016 I've discovered that new categories will appear behind other new categories because they are timestamped to the date they were created. I created the Pergolas category three years ago and so it appears on the grid from that timeframe. Quote
+elyob Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 Playing BINGO gets even more challenging. Quote
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