+jpbarr Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) Hi all looks like my latest geocoin design is coming out quicker than I thought, as it is already open for reservations on CacheAddict. Graffiti Gator There are 3 versions, Gold, Nickel & Black Nickel I will add info as I get it Edited January 6, 2013 by jpbarr Quote Link to comment
+Frank n Beck Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Gonna have to grab a few of those, they are sweet! Nicely Done! Quote Link to comment
+nevadanick Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Got ours reserved, thank you!! The only thing we don't like is the 'graffiti' reference ... since in many of our areas today 'tagging' and 'graffiti' are synonymous. Dealing with gang and/or drug oriented graffiti all over our community and personal property walls and fences is NOT desirable (imo). Cute gator though ... Quote Link to comment
+jpbarr Posted January 6, 2013 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 Got ours reserved, thank you!! The only thing we don't like is the 'graffiti' reference ... since in many of our areas today 'tagging' and 'graffiti' are synonymous. Dealing with gang and/or drug oriented graffiti all over our community and personal property walls and fences is NOT desirable (imo). Cute gator though ... This was a theme that was asked for by CacheAddict but I enjoyed creating the back. I understand your point of view and unfortunately tagging and gangs are a major problem but graffiti art is an amazing skill and I have to take my hat off to the fantastic artwork the artists can create. This is the side I wanted to show. Quote Link to comment
+Tennessee Jed Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Will this have a unique icon? Quote Link to comment
+jpbarr Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share Posted January 7, 2013 Will this have a unique icon? I will find out for you Quote Link to comment
+thesmurfinator Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Got ours reserved, thank you!! The only thing we don't like is the 'graffiti' reference ... since in many of our areas today 'tagging' and 'graffiti' are synonymous. Dealing with gang and/or drug oriented graffiti all over our community and personal property walls and fences is NOT desirable (imo). Cute gator though ... This was a theme that was asked for by CacheAddict but I enjoyed creating the back. I understand your point of view and unfortunately tagging and gangs are a major problem but graffiti art is an amazing skill and I have to take my hat off to the fantastic artwork the artists can create. This is the side I wanted to show. I have to agree , there is some amazing skill that goes into graffiti art - tagging is just not the same thing and I hate it. You have to also realise that graffiti has been used to do good in some urban areas. Workshops have been set up which use this art medium to connect with kids and engage them in a way that they enjoy, removing them from the streets and giving them some else to focus on rather than gangs and drugs. It sounds to me a bit like the parents in the 80´s blaming heavy metal for their kids behaviour...or football(soccer) being blamed for hooliganism. If you banned football the hooligans would start going to cricket matches(or some other sport) and causing the same problems, if you banned heavy metal satan worshippers would start playing Chopin backwards and find some hidden meaning in it... you get my gist?? Don´t blame the art..... I love this coin and I will have to have one Quote Link to comment
+nevadanick Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) Got ours reserved, thank you!! The only thing we don't like is the 'graffiti' reference ... since in many of our areas today 'tagging' and 'graffiti' are synonymous. Dealing with gang and/or drug oriented graffiti all over our community and personal property walls and fences is NOT desirable (imo). Cute gator though ... This was a theme that was asked for by CacheAddict but I enjoyed creating the back. I understand your point of view and unfortunately tagging and gangs are a major problem but graffiti art is an amazing skill and I have to take my hat off to the fantastic artwork the artists can create. This is the side I wanted to show. I have to agree , there is some amazing skill that goes into graffiti art - tagging is just not the same thing and I hate it. You have to also realise that graffiti has been used to do good in some urban areas. Workshops have been set up which use this art medium to connect with kids and engage them in a way that they enjoy, removing them from the streets and giving them some else to focus on rather than gangs and drugs. It sounds to me a bit like the parents in the 80´s blaming heavy metal for their kids behaviour...or football(soccer) being blamed for hooliganism. If you banned football the hooligans would start going to cricket matches(or some other sport) and causing the same problems, if you banned heavy metal satan worshippers would start playing Chopin backwards and find some hidden meaning in it... you get my gist?? Don´t blame the art..... I love this coin and I will have to have one First ... note that I posted that I reserved ours ... I also noted that just the use of 'graffiti' makes the art synonymous with tagging and the artwork on this itself seems (without seeing the actual coin) to reflect mostly the aspect of graffiti style words (i.e. 'tagging'), not the 'art' aspect. Along the lines of your comments... it's also important not to honor the kids' 'bad behavior', and should not honor hooliganism. OK... maybe 'Graffiti Gator' is a catchy phrase for the coin, but Graffiti Art Gator might have been more appropriate to honor the 'ART', not just the tagging style wording on the coin. Way too easy to misinterpret or associate in ways not originally intended. Soapbox [/off] ... back to our originally scheduled coining ... Edited January 9, 2013 by nevadanick Quote Link to comment
+jpbarr Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 Ok to answer Tennessee Jed, as usual with CacheAddict there will be an Icon only if 250 coins are reservered. So, in other words, I have no idea I guess it depends on how many buy it Quote Link to comment
+mamoreb Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 it's also important not to honor the kids' 'bad behavior', and should not honor hooliganism. OK... maybe 'Graffiti Gator' is a catchy phrase for the coin, but Graffiti Art Gator might have been more appropriate to honor the 'ART', not just the tagging style wording on the coin. Way too easy to misinterpret or associate in ways not originally intended. ... or how about Graffiti gARTor? Or Art the Graffiti Gator? Quote Link to comment
+thesmurfinator Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 NevadaNick - first off - I was not attacking you like you seem to imply and I am sorry if I caused offence. I was just trying to point out that, A:there is a huge difference between tagging and graffiti art pieces and, B: that artwork associated with bad elements does not make the art bad. I am not quite sure what you mean about honoring bad behavior as I never said anything that would condone bad behavior at all.....and certainly nothing that would honor hooliganism!! very confused about that to be honest and a little offended... FYI - "tagging" is a quick sprawl,sometimes done by a single colour spray can, but more often a large tipped marker pen. It is usually done on buses, trains, public phone boxes etc in a guerilla style. In my opinion tagging has no artistic merit at all... Quote Link to comment
+nevadanick Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 NevadaNick - first off - I was not attacking you like you seem to imply and I am sorry if I caused offence. I was just trying to point out that, A:there is a huge difference between tagging and graffiti art pieces and, B: that artwork associated with bad elements does not make the art bad. I am not quite sure what you mean about honoring bad behavior as I never said anything that would condone bad behavior at all.....and certainly nothing that would honor hooliganism!! very confused about that to be honest and a little offended... FYI - "tagging" is a quick sprawl,sometimes done by a single colour spray can, but more often a large tipped marker pen. It is usually done on buses, trains, public phone boxes etc in a guerilla style. In my opinion tagging has no artistic merit at all... This isn't the place for an 'offended' discussion. Take it to e-mail if you want to, but I'm not likely to reply. I only explained my position based on the accepted definitions worldwide through responsible dictionaries about 'graffiti' and in reply to your definitions posted of the same issue. Quote Link to comment
+Bartians Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I love this gator. It's well-designed and playful. The graffiti medium is a beautiful art. I don't understand how artists paint using an entire building as a canvas with spray cans. Hopefully this teenage gator will grow up into a respectable graffiti gator and make a good living painting for people. Everyone has made valid points, but in the end this is a good looking coin. I enjoy reading how a coin can spark such a lively debate, or rather an expression of varied opinions. No reason for it to become personal. Quote Link to comment
+thesmurfinator Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I was only offended by someone twisting my words around to make it seem like I was condoning hooliganism, still a little confused by that, but rather than back up his claims he has now chosen to state he will ignore me even if I email him, so I guess he can´t back it up at allll. I was not trying to antagonise or offend, but it seems that sometimes it is impossible to not cause offence unless you are willing to bend to another´s view. The graffiti medium IS a beautiful medium when it is done correctly. Having researched both youth groups using this medium, and some well known Graffiti artists themselves, I know how amazing it is to watch a true graffiti piece come together. Unlike tagging, the process can take hours or even days to complete and the finished results can be breath-taking. Some of the events that I have attended have been real eye-openers, in terms of both the skill and techniques used and the diversity of the artists. I have met graffiti artists that are head school teachers, social workers and even lawyers! This coin is well designed and the colours are awesome too. Props to the designer on getting a great balance between something that is graffiti based and something that will appeal to the general cacher too. Quote Link to comment
+jpbarr Posted January 11, 2013 Author Share Posted January 11, 2013 Well, it has been interesting reading everyone's comments and I thank you all for your compliments but please lets keep this about the coin and not a personal slamming match. At least you all agree that it's a cool coin design I am hoping it will sell well as I would really like to see it with it's own icon Quote Link to comment
+JoenGPS Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) Well, it has been interesting reading everyone's comments and I thank you all for your compliments but please lets keep this about the coin and not a personal slamming match. At least you all agree that it's a cool coin design I am hoping it will sell well as I would really like to see it with it's own icon I added a few to the reservations. I work as a Tech Director at a school and the mascot is a gator. I have quite a few teachers and students out looking for tupperware. This is perfect! -- Joe Edited January 11, 2013 by JoenSue Quote Link to comment
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