+TheOldfields Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) or Right. A small rant. Could COs please stop adding hints such as "it's on the left" when (apologies for caps) IT'S COMPLETELY UNCLEAR WHICH DIRECTION I APPROACHED FROM. End of rant. Edited August 27, 2012 by TheOldfields Quote Link to comment
+gpicard Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I think it depends if you are in a red state or a blue state (USA).... Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 It could be worse. Don't you just love the half-wits that put "No hint needed" in the hint field? Really? If it wasn't needed I wouldn't be reading that gem, now would I? Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 or Right. A small rant. Could COs please stop adding hints such as "it's on the left" when (apologies for caps) ITS COMPLETELY UNCLEAR WHICH DIRECTION I APPROACHED FROM. End of rant. Yes. I find those irritating. 'East of the trail'! Doh! Quote Link to comment
Chino1130 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I hate it even more when I go to view a hint and it tells you right where the cache is. Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 One of my favorites - "Not in ivy". There's no ivy at GZ. Quote Link to comment
+SwineFlew Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Oh I find that annoying. Please use North, South, West or east. Its easier to figure that out. If u dont know where North is, why you are out geocaching? Quote Link to comment
+OZ2CPU Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I SO MUCH !!! know the feeling with L-R man I am tired of useless hints :-) another one , by the tree (there is a trillion, we are in a forrest dude) or under a stone, (oh big help this whole area is one huge pile of stones) PLEASE: USE good usefull, helpfull hints, or just dont !! and use ENGLISH too, no matter where you live... Quote Link to comment
+Sol seaker Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 One of my favorites - "Not in ivy". There's no ivy at GZ. :laughing: :laughing: Love that one. I'm going to use it!! Yeah, here in the northwest we get a lot of "by the mossy log." I've seen that a lot and look around and there are probably 25 of them within 50 feet and none at GZ. There is one near here where they say, "rock" where there is large field of rocks next to a rock wall. It couldn't possible NOT be near a rock. "Tree" is another that drives me nuts. We're in a forest for Crimnies sake. I just looked for a cache that had something about sticks in the hint. It was a wild area in the back of a park. I've never seen so many sticks in my life (although none at GZ of course). If I ever need a stick I now know where to go. Yes sir, "sticks-R-US". Sticks, sticks, everywhere sticks. Regular stick supply store. Quote Link to comment
+The A-Team Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 'East of the trail' What about when that's the hint, but it's an east-west trail! I've had the misfortune of running into a couple of those. Quote Link to comment
+BBWolf+3Pigs Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I will either use cardinal directions, or reference a major landmark. "Same side as trail as the huge boulder", making sure there is only one huge boulder nearby. Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) "Tree" is another that drives me nuts. We're in a forest for Crimnies sake. I always give the hint "behind a tree", so there's no confusion. Unless it's in front, of course. So you only have to look at one half of every tree in the forest. Edited August 27, 2012 by kunarion Quote Link to comment
+dprovan Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Uses of "left" and "right" clue me into the fact that the CO can't see things from other points of view. That can be very useful in interpreting other parts of the description and hint, both in this cache and the CO's other caches. I hate the variations of "This shouldn't stump you." It always means "look in the stump", but it should mean exactly the opposite: that it's not in the stump. I don't mind "stump" or "hung up" hints in general, just don't put them in negative sentences if they're suggesting positive information. Another common failure is a hint that duplicates what you already know by going to GZ. "In the picnic area." Well, duh! On the other hand, I once used a variation of "no hint needed" because I wanted to stress that if you think you need a hint, you're over thinking it. (My reviewer recommended against the vacuous hint, by the way.) In retrospect, I agree that wasn't really a good idea. As it turned out, Mother Nature quickly made this hide harder than it was originally, so I changed it to something helpful. Quote Link to comment
+RedjackRyan Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 "Email us if you need a hint" Because everyone has access to email while out in the field while searching... Quote Link to comment
+Cachefoxxe Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I found one one time that the hint of "Right" Was actually a good clue. The cache was by a statue, and the cache was hidden on the statues right side. Course you had to figure out that its the statues right side, not yours when looking at it. Quote Link to comment
+Straight-Cache-Homey Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Love the 'base of the tree' ones. Like others pointed out, you brought us into the woods!!! Of course it's by a tree. 'No hint needed' is another one that drives me nuts. Can't find it, there's a thousand 'TFTC' logs, and now you deem it's so easy I don't need hint. I feel like Einstein now! Quote Link to comment
+Bear and Ragged Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 "Email us if you need a hint" Because everyone has access to email while out in the field while searching... ... And the CO is sitting there, ready to email you straight back! Quote Link to comment
+stijnhommes Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Earlier today, I had a hint that told me the cache was on the left of a particular point. Luckily that point was easily recognized, and there was only one path I could be walking along... Quote Link to comment
+ArcherDragoon Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Love the 'base of the tree' ones. Like others pointed out, you brought us into the woods!!! Of course it's by a tree. 'No hint needed' is another one that drives me nuts. Can't find it, there's a thousand 'TFTC' logs, and now you deem it's so easy I don't need hint. I feel like Einstein now! Unless it is under a pile of rocks in the woods... Quote Link to comment
GPS-Hermit Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 My brother becomes frustrated when we are paddling rivers and someone says go left of that rock, the viewer sees one rock, my brother sees 1000 rocks. Are we having fun yet! Driving directions are fun too! Turn 1 mile b4 where the old Fire Station use to be! Just use the co-ordinates and try and find it. That is hunting which is what we are susposed to be doing. Getting a descent signal helps a little as well. Sometimes the wonderful techno signal could win the tampolene event in the Olympics. Hunt for it! And keep hunting till ya find it! Got to be there somewhere! Right! Quote Link to comment
+BBWolf+3Pigs Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Love the 'base of the tree' ones. Like others pointed out, you brought us into the woods!!! Of course it's by a tree. 'No hint needed' is another one that drives me nuts. Can't find it, there's a thousand 'TFTC' logs, and now you deem it's so easy I don't need hint. I feel like Einstein now! Unless it is under a pile of rocks in the woods... A friend hid a cache called "No Stone Unturned" in a small rock field. Cache of course was not under any stone, but rather an old log. Quote Link to comment
+Don_J Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Love the 'base of the tree' ones. Like others pointed out, you brought us into the woods!!! Of course it's by a tree. 'No hint needed' is another one that drives me nuts. Can't find it, there's a thousand 'TFTC' logs, and now you deem it's so easy I don't need hint. I feel like Einstein now! "Base of tree" can be a good hint. It eliminates the rest of the tree. Once I'm sure I have the right tree, I don't need to look for a hanger in the branches or something shoved into the bark. We have huge oak trees that can cover a 100' radius with hundreds of branches to hang a cache in. Quote Link to comment
+tozainamboku Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 One of my favorites - "Not in ivy". There's no ivy at GZ. Maybe there was ivy when the cache was hidden and it was all torn out by cachers who didn't read the hint. Quote Link to comment
+The A-Team Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 'No hint needed' is another one that drives me nuts. Yeah, I hate those too. At least the new submission form asks if you want to leave a hint or not (defaulting to not). With the old form, I guess some people thought they needed to put something in every field. Quote Link to comment
+SwineFlew Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 One of my favorites - "Not in ivy". There's no ivy at GZ. Maybe there was ivy when the cache was hidden and it was all torn out by cachers who didn't read the hint. I know that happen around here before. Nope, the cache wasnt in the ivy but people did talk about the ivy cleared out. Quote Link to comment
+The Jester Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 'East of the trail' What about when that's the hint, but it's an east-west trail! I've had the misfortune of running into a couple of those. Those drive me nuts also. People who don't know their directions are almost as bad as those who don't know distance. I did one the other day where the page said cache was within eight feet of trail, the hint said within 6 feet of a type of tree - the only matching tree was about 25 feet from the trail... Quote Link to comment
+Gitchee-Gummee Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) Used a hint a short while ago.... "In pine tree". 'Twas a double-whammy! There were no pine trees! Lots of fir trees, but not a pine tree anywhere in sight, or a spruce for that matter. Nit-picky I know, but it was a very tight re-growth forest with nuttin' but 8'-15' fir trees. True bushwhacking. Edited August 30, 2012 by Gitchee-Gummee Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 One of my recent finds specified "NOT in the briars!", due to logs about how bad the briars are. Unable to find the container, and seeing GZ could easily be on the object appropriate to the cache description in a spot engulfed in briars, I also walked into the briars. Turns out, the cache isn't in that spot. It truly is at least 3 feet away from the briars, if you plan the route. Quote Link to comment
+mdplayers Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 One of my favorites - "Not in ivy". There's no ivy at GZ. I just looked for a cache that had something about sticks in the hint. It was a wild area in the back of a park. I've never seen so many sticks in my life (although none at GZ of course). If I ever need a stick I now know where to go. Yes sir, "sticks-R-US". Sticks, sticks, everywhere sticks. Regular stick supply store. This made me LOL! In his younger years (he's 18 now), my son was known as 'stick boy' because he would pickup and carry around any old stick. Once his grandfather filled his bed with sticks as a joke. "Sticks-R-Us" is great! Quote Link to comment
Chino1130 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I went looking for a cache yesterday with this hint "You're on your own with this one!" ... I hate that crap. Quote Link to comment
+Mudfrog Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 "Tree" is another that drives me nuts. We're in a forest for Crimnies sake. I always give the hint "behind a tree", so there's no confusion. Unless it's in front, of course. So you only have to look at one half of every tree in the forest. This one got a chuckle out of me.. Thanks! Quote Link to comment
+Sharks-N-Beans Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 and use ENGLISH too, no matter where you live... Why? Quote Link to comment
+Shop99er Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 One of the now retired reviewers here in Washington State used to hold up publication if your hint was one of those lame-a** things. Now that he's gone, we're up to our armpits in crap hints. Quote Link to comment
+The A-Team Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 and use ENGLISH too, no matter where you live... Why? Yeah, I'm confused about that one, too. The hint (and the rest of the cache listing, for that matter), should be in the most common local language. If a cache is somewhere where a lot of tourists are likely to be looking for it, adding additional languages can be a good idea. But requiring English regardless of the location? Nope, that doesn't make any sense. Not everyone in the world speaks English. Quote Link to comment
+jellis Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 "Email us if you need a hint" Because everyone has access to email while out in the field while searching... Yes this is my pet peeve too. Because do you really think the CO is sitting by their computers waiting for emails from cachers who need a hint. I say NOT!. Or if you have no internet access, or CO no longer active. Might as well leave it blank cause it's the same thing. Quote Link to comment
+OZ2CPU Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) >But requiring English regardless of the location? Nope, >that doesn't make any sense. Not everyone in the world speaks English. IT MAKES alot OF SENCE.. Turists actually pop up, allover, even at the most remote locations, this mean ANY cache can be visited by a turist, all webpages in general, and also groundspeaks webpages are written compleetly in english this means the CO is able to understand at least a little bit of it, to be able to use his computer and to be able to use the listing website. I dont say ALL text must be transferted to English.. just add a simple one liner in English if you want to tell something to not only locals but to ANY one in the world who might visit one day. hints is the only place turists look, since they dont understand any words in the cache text anyway they just like a nice trip to a new location, and maybe even see new and special things too, some LOVE to know a thing or two about the special bridge or sculpture they look at, the CO got alot of this info on his page, but hey it is UNREADABLE since it is not in English.. there is no way for a turist to go online and translate stuff while out on the road, they do not have cheap or free data. and there is no way to translate all PQ files, before they are transfered into a GPS unit. I just say, it is fine a CO is no expert in English, you dont need to be. just use google translator and paste the result into your page, and all of us who travel alot can be happy. Edited August 31, 2012 by OZ2CPU Quote Link to comment
+humboldt flier Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 One of the now retired reviewers here in Washington State used to hold up publication if your hint was one of those lame-a** things. Now that he's gone, we're up to our armpits in crap hints. Pretty much says it all: we're up to our armpits in crap hints Quote Link to comment
+BBWolf+3Pigs Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 >But requiring English regardless of the location? Nope, >that doesn't make any sense. Not everyone in the world speaks English. IT MAKES alot OF SENCE.. Turists actually pop up, allover, even at the most remote locations, this mean ANY cache can be visited by a turist, all webpages in general, and also groundspeaks webpages are written compleetly in english this means the CO is able to understand at least a little bit of it, to be able to use his computer and to be able to use the listing website. I dont say ALL text must be transferted to English.. just add a simple one liner in English if you want to tell something to not only locals but to ANY one in the world who might visit one day. hints is the only place turists look, since they dont understand any words in the cache text anyway they just like a nice trip to a new location, and maybe even see new and special things too, some LOVE to know a thing or two about the special bridge or sculpture they look at, the CO got alot of this info on his page, but hey it is UNREADABLE since it is not in English.. there is no way for a turist to go online and translate stuff while out on the road, they do not have cheap or free data. and there is no way to translate all PQ files, before they are transfered into a GPS unit. I just say, it is fine a CO is no expert in English, you dont need to be. just use google translator and paste the result into your page, and all of us who travel alot can be happy. Sorry, have to disagree with you. I just visited a total of 5 countries in Europe, with a total of 3 different languages (Germany, Austria, Switzerland, France and Czech Republic). All of the caches I found were in the native language (I think one had the listing in both the local language and English). My German skills are enough to get me in trouble, but I was able to find them all. Google Translate helped where my skills didn't. I don't see why you need to force someone to do anything in a language they don't know, on the chance a tourist may look for their cache. Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Used a hint a short while ago.... "In pine tree". 'Twas a double-whammy! There were no pine trees! Lots of fir trees, but not a pine tree anywhere in sight, or a spruce for that matter. Nit-picky I know, but it was a very tight re-growth forest with nuttin' but 8'-15' fir trees. True bushwhacking. A lot of geocachers think that every evergreen is a 'pine'. Cedar, spruce, hemlock: they're all 'pines'. There was a cache near a dog park called "My Fir-ry Friend." It was hidden in the yew. Oh, well. Quote Link to comment
+The A-Team Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Turists actually pop up, allover, even at the most remote locations, this mean ANY cache can be visited by a turist, all webpages in general, and also groundspeaks webpages are written compleetly in english this means the CO is able to understand at least a little bit of it, to be able to use his computer and to be able to use the listing website. First, not all tourists are English-speaking. A German cache near the French border is much more likely to get French-speaking tourists than English-speaking. It would then make the most sense to have a German and French hint. Second, on many (every?) pages of Geocaching.com, near the bottom, there's a dropdown called "Choose Your Language" that allows you to change the language the site is displayed in. Someone with little to no knowledge of English can still use the site just fine. Quote Link to comment
+gururyan Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 These are funny. My next cache will have a left/right hint just for fun...might toss a "where the McDonald's cow got loose" or a "beside the tree" in for good measure. Quote Link to comment
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