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I need some help in working on a program for the use and mapping of Rural Areas with the GPS and getting that data to a data base to access interactively with the GPS,I have very little training in computer programming,but have the ability to get the data sets together,I would like to make it a joint effort for the use of the community at large.Please give me feed back on this one.What I may be trying to attemp may be beyond my singular scope of intelligence. I can't afford the AUDO/CAD or the Mapping costs at this link at about 5,000.00 each. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/nij/maps/tools.html

 

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[This message was edited by GEO*Trailblazer # 1 on June 03, 2003 at 05:45 PM.]

 

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I don't understand why you need to make up your own program for SAR, when there are good options for mapping programs such as MapTech Terrain Navigator and National Geographic TOPO!? I have used both for mapping and search management. TOPO! seems the best for the creation of custom maps and Terrain Navigator works best for search management and planning. Maptech has put out a new version called Terrain Navigator Pro that is even better suited to search management. It is being widely used by many NASAR members and is featured in their Managing the Lost Person Incident training manual. If you are a certified SAR unit, you should be able to obtain these products at a substantial discount, we have even had quite a bit of software donated to us by these firms. To rely on online mapping sources would be very risky, as it is not always feasible to establish an online connection in the kind of rugged and remote search environments we often have to operate in. If you have the skill, you can use a program such as Oziexplorer to view maps that you have downloaded from online sources and stored on CDs, but I don't have that kind of GIS skill, and instead rely on the commercial mapping programs.

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Thanks for the info.I will look into this.What I am trying to do is write a Physical Address along with other Data that could be used,such as the Vial of life location,pacemakers,which room is mostly used during severe weather and so on. Is this option available in these programs you mention as well? My tracking and mapping skills are mostly from years in the field,not ever having to use the GPSr or Topographical Maps.This advent has made alot of changes in the ways that we can do things now days.I have been out of the loop for a number of years due to disability,but have found something that intrests me but have very little skill at, that is all this new computer programs and such.I have only had a computer for a little over a year but have had a GPS for over 10 years now.When I first started you could not hardly get anything, but times are flying by here and do not want to get passed up on the Technology.Thanks again for your insight.I let all my CERT's expire but am in the progress of getting them up to date again.I am a First Responder here but have had little help in the getting the GPS accepted here.(Most) around here still do not know what they are,and even more do not even have a computer.The Internet here is new too.It's only been here for a couple of years now.

 

THE MOST DANGEROUS ANIMAL IN THE FOREST DOES NOT EVEN LIVE THERE*********WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS*GEOTRYAGAIN **1803-2003 "LOUSIANA PURCHASE" 200TH ANNIVERSARY AND THE "LEWIS AND CLARK EXPADITION" http://www.lapurchase.org http://www.msnusers.com/MissouriTrails

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If you are looking to do wilderness search & rescue operations I would have to agree that TOPO is good for creating trail maps and the such and MapTech is an excelent tool for the overhead team. A laptop loaded with MapTech Terrain Navigator Pro has become a perminant addition to my search management kit.

 

However, it sounds like you are looking for something a little more along the lines of urban search & rescue operations in a rural enviroment. If my assumption is correct and I understand your question the options I listed above will do you no good. If you are simply looking to track map coordinates, street address, locations within the home as a pre-plan on you may want to just create a simple database using a program such as Microsoft Access. I am sure you will find being able to match street addresses to exact gps coords a great help in a disaster.

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Well the Plan came together as planned a little slow but she is a go.I have had a new program written for me that is perfect for the start and can be modified as needed.Current work includes Coordinates along with steet address as well as Road JCT's. N S E W.The 3D will come in later as the data base is filled.Thanks again for all the help and answers.Once I figure it all out I will keep you updated as to its effectiveness.Alot around this neck of the woods still have not accepted the newer technologies but when they see it work maybe it will become more popular.

 

THE MOST DANGEROUS ANIMAL IN THE FOREST DOES NOT EVEN LIVE THERE*********WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS*GEOTRYAGAIN **1803-2003 "LOUSIANA PURCHASE" 200TH ANNIVERSARY AND THE "LEWIS AND CLARK EXPADITION" http://lewisclark.goeg.missouri.edu http://www.lapurchase.org http://www.msnusers.com/MissouriTrails

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Rural GIS..

 

A couple of years ago I built a GIS system for a local volunteer fire department. I used OziExplorer and downloaded Digital Elevation Maps from the USGS. I then zoomed around with my GPSr and took tracks of the roads and plotted them onto the DEM. This gave a very good insight into the topo of the coverage area and help identify bottle necks, etc.

 

Cost? DEMs are free, Ozi is kinda free, so all it cost was my time.

 

>Personally Responsible for the Recovery of .00244% of the Benchmark Database!<--watch this number!

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3-D is in the mail,the program is going well.

The Sheriff just purchased 15 new Meridian Golds for the Units.Local First Responders are wanting it and the mapping is looking good.Lotta Work.FEMA,SEMA,and the Locals are all now getting things together.With the Tornado damage it has slowed our FEMA rep. here way down but thats all winding up now.They really liked the Idea when I showed up that Tornado night with the ole GPSr and was able to track all that I did and was doing,and has now become a part of the mapping. See http://www.Geocaching.com/mark/details.asp?PID=GG0052 and http://www.Geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=59254

 

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Thanks for the link.

I will try and keep it up on this page.

Thanks for all your responses.they do help.

I am new at this and am learning quite rapidly.

We still have issues that no matter how good the map,or directions you still have to use common sense and Field experience.

1 example the other day for Short.

 

Butterfield got mixed up with Battlefield in the confusion of conversation,then the phone line burnt,no communication.That is a 75 mile error in description.But we got there anyway because of a landmark mentioned,and smoke.

 

got to work out the bugs..........

 

WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS *GEOTRYAGAIN*

 

**1803-2003** "LOUSIANA PURCHASE"

http://www.lapurchase.org

 

"LEWIS AND CLARK EXPADITION"

http://lewisclark.geog.missouri.edu/

Initial Points Page

http://www.True-Meridiansubscribe@yahoogroups.com

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