Who has the most FTFs

[+Totem Clan]

I have sat here and watched the mud slinging and off topic comments and I just cant beleive it! My guess is that you can say anything and get away with it as long as your pals with the moderator.

I wished it worked that way. Then I could say what I realy think about so of the comments made in here.

[AZcachemeister]

See my post #8.

 

Without the ability to view each and every (Physical) log book/sheet/scroll of every cache ever placed, any and all FTF claims are nothing more than a gentle mist rising over a mountain lake on a summer's morning as the sun peeks over the ridgeline, painting the opposite shoreline in subtle hues of pink and purple as the mountain creatures begin their day.

[+Totem Clan]

See my post #8.

 

Without the ability to view each and every (Physical) log book/sheet/scroll of every cache ever placed, any and all FTF claims are nothing more than a gentle mist rising over a mountain lake on a summer's morning as the sun peeks over the ridgeline, painting the opposite shoreline in subtle hues of pink and purple as the mountain creatures begin their day.

Exactly. ...but cachers still obsess over this ethereal nothingness.

[+Flintstone5611]

Interesting. I enjoy the competitive side of geocaching and am always drawn in by these types of threads. The OP was requesting a quantitative measurement of a widely understood facet of the game. He wasn't asking about choices or honesty or anything else. In a competitive part of this game (whether official or not it is widely accepted) the man only wanted to know who was winning. I think that any person that wishes to use their time for competition should be allowed to ask that without fear of reprisal by their peers.

 

It wasn't about the good, the bad or the ugly of FTFs, just asking to check the scoreboard for everyone that cares. I really didn't think that was a problem. Why else would we have sites like Cacher Stats, if not to see what is happening?

[+Scubasonic]

Interesting. I enjoy the competitive side of geocaching and am always drawn in by these types of threads. The OP was requesting a quantitative measurement of a widely understood facet of the game. He wasn't asking about choices or honesty or anything else. In a competitive part of this game (whether official or not it is widely accepted) the man only wanted to know who was winning. I think that any person that wishes to use their time for competition should be allowed to ask that without fear of reprisal by their peers.

 

It wasn't about the good, the bad or the ugly of FTFs, just asking to check the scoreboard for everyone that cares. I really didn't think that was a problem. Why else would we have sites like Cacher Stats, if not to see what is happening?

 

Exactly, this is what I was trying to say, just said better then I could.........

 

I would like to know how I could have worded this question and better then I did, without raising the torches against me or my question????? but I keep coming to the same conclusion, there is no way without the flaming. The way I see it is there is a core group of people on this forum, that if you ask a question that does not fit into THEIR narrow minded guidelines of what should or shouldn't be asked they gang up on you to belittle, and or strip away any credibility of the question or OP, till you just say oh forget it......I believe they have a word for this it's called bullying.

[+Scubasonic]

See my post #8.

 

Without the ability to view each and every (Physical) log book/sheet/scroll of every cache ever placed, any and all FTF claims are nothing more than a gentle mist rising over a mountain lake on a summer's morning as the sun peeks over the ridgeline, painting the opposite shoreline in subtle hues of pink and purple as the mountain creatures begin their day.

 

Well I guess you could say that about all online logs, to know for sure you would need to check all log sheets. Believe me with stat pages if someone claims a FTF when they didn't get it, it would come out fairly quickly by the next finders and they would make it known to the CO.

[+Flintstone5611]

See my post #8.

 

Without the ability to view each and every (Physical) log book/sheet/scroll of every cache ever placed, any and all FTF claims are nothing more than a gentle mist rising over a mountain lake on a summer's morning as the sun peeks over the ridgeline, painting the opposite shoreline in subtle hues of pink and purple as the mountain creatures begin their day.

 

Well I guess you could say that about all online logs, to know for sure you would need to check all log sheets. Believe me with stat pages if someone claims a FTF when they didn't get it, it would come out fairly quickly by the next finders and they would make it known to the CO.

 

I actually saw a stat page where that was true. A couple of the caches listed show that this person was the 30th (or so) person to log it, but they reported it as an FTF on their profile. Realistically, I could criticize, but why bother? We don't win anything and we don't lose anything. I don't mind winning/losing a race with no prize. But you put a 5$ gift certificate in there and you bet I am gonna hustle, lol!

[+WRASTRO]

See my post #8.

 

Without the ability to view each and every (Physical) log book/sheet/scroll of every cache ever placed, any and all FTF claims are nothing more than a gentle mist rising over a mountain lake on a summer's morning as the sun peeks over the ridgeline, painting the opposite shoreline in subtle hues of pink and purple as the mountain creatures begin their day.

 

Well I guess you could say that about all online logs, to know for sure you would need to check all log sheets. Believe me with stat pages if someone claims a FTF when they didn't get it, it would come out fairly quickly by the next finders and they would make it known to the CO.

I don't care one way or the other here since I enjoy a FTF on rare chance but I don't care about making it a competition. It seems the issue in this thread is the OP appears to be a one trick pony. And keeps wanting to talk about the same trick.

[+Flintstone5611]

See my post #8.

 

Without the ability to view each and every (Physical) log book/sheet/scroll of every cache ever placed, any and all FTF claims are nothing more than a gentle mist rising over a mountain lake on a summer's morning as the sun peeks over the ridgeline, painting the opposite shoreline in subtle hues of pink and purple as the mountain creatures begin their day.

 

Well I guess you could say that about all online logs, to know for sure you would need to check all log sheets. Believe me with stat pages if someone claims a FTF when they didn't get it, it would come out fairly quickly by the next finders and they would make it known to the CO.

I don't care one way or the other here since I enjoy a FTF on rare chance but I don't care about making it a competition. It seems the issue in this thread is the OP appears to be a one trick pony. And keeps wanting to talk about the same trick.

 

Not to sound flippant, but that is why you get to read the subject line before you enter a thread.

[+WRASTRO]

See my post #8.

 

Without the ability to view each and every (Physical) log book/sheet/scroll of every cache ever placed, any and all FTF claims are nothing more than a gentle mist rising over a mountain lake on a summer's morning as the sun peeks over the ridgeline, painting the opposite shoreline in subtle hues of pink and purple as the mountain creatures begin their day.

 

Well I guess you could say that about all online logs, to know for sure you would need to check all log sheets. Believe me with stat pages if someone claims a FTF when they didn't get it, it would come out fairly quickly by the next finders and they would make it known to the CO.

I don't care one way or the other here since I enjoy a FTF on rare chance but I don't care about making it a competition. It seems the issue in this thread is the OP appears to be a one trick pony. And keeps wanting to talk about the same trick.

 

Not to sound flippant, but that is why you get to read the subject line before you enter a thread.

Hmmm, I read all 57 posts prior to mine (including yours) and decided to respond with my opinion. You don't need to agree with my opinion but you don't get to tell me I can't express it.

[+Flintstone5611]

See my post #8.

 

Without the ability to view each and every (Physical) log book/sheet/scroll of every cache ever placed, any and all FTF claims are nothing more than a gentle mist rising over a mountain lake on a summer's morning as the sun peeks over the ridgeline, painting the opposite shoreline in subtle hues of pink and purple as the mountain creatures begin their day.

 

Well I guess you could say that about all online logs, to know for sure you would need to check all log sheets. Believe me with stat pages if someone claims a FTF when they didn't get it, it would come out fairly quickly by the next finders and they would make it known to the CO.

I don't care one way or the other here since I enjoy a FTF on rare chance but I don't care about making it a competition. It seems the issue in this thread is the OP appears to be a one trick pony. And keeps wanting to talk about the same trick.

 

Not to sound flippant, but that is why you get to read the subject line before you enter a thread.

Hmmm, I read all 57 posts prior to mine (including yours) and decided to respond with my opinion. You don't need to agree with my opinion but you don't get to tell me I can't express it.

 

Lol, sorry if that is what you thought that was. You were expressing a thought (which I would never deny you even if I had the power) and I was just expressing how I disagreed with you. The issue in this thread is "who has the most FTFs" not "is Scubasonic a one trick pony", but feel free to open that thread and I will post my IBTL promptly.

[+WRASTRO]

See my post #8.

 

Without the ability to view each and every (Physical) log book/sheet/scroll of every cache ever placed, any and all FTF claims are nothing more than a gentle mist rising over a mountain lake on a summer's morning as the sun peeks over the ridgeline, painting the opposite shoreline in subtle hues of pink and purple as the mountain creatures begin their day.

 

Well I guess you could say that about all online logs, to know for sure you would need to check all log sheets. Believe me with stat pages if someone claims a FTF when they didn't get it, it would come out fairly quickly by the next finders and they would make it known to the CO.

I don't care one way or the other here since I enjoy a FTF on rare chance but I don't care about making it a competition. It seems the issue in this thread is the OP appears to be a one trick pony. And keeps wanting to talk about the same trick.

 

Not to sound flippant, but that is why you get to read the subject line before you enter a thread.

Hmmm, I read all 57 posts prior to mine (including yours) and decided to respond with my opinion. You don't need to agree with my opinion but you don't get to tell me I can't express it.

 

Lol, sorry if that is what you thought that was. You were expressing a thought (which I would never deny you even if I had the power) and I was just expressing how I disagreed with you. The issue in this thread is "who has the most FTFs" not "is Scubasonic a one trick pony", but feel free to open that thread and I will post my IBTL promptly.

Spin however you want but your post came across as telling me I couldn't respond if I didn't subscribe to the tenant of competing for FTF on caches. Disagree with my opinions all you want but don't try to be dismissive with comments such as "that is why you get to read the subject line before you enter a thread." I felt your post was condescending, as was your response to my post. Discuss the topic. Discuss opinions.

[+Flintstone5611]

I am sorry that you see it that way.

[+WRASTRO]

I am sorry that you see it that way.

We can agree to disagree. I explained my thoughts and reaction. You just told me I couldn't have my opinion because I must not have even bothered to read the title of the OP. Dismissive doesn't work for me. Discuss a topic? I am all for it. Tell me I need to read the subject line? BS.

[+Flintstone5611]

Actually no. You said a rather disparaging remark about the OP and I voiced my disagreement with that. You assumed that the thread had boiled down to people's disdain for the subject despite the fact that it was still trying to stay on track. You perceived my comment to mean that I was telling you not to reply, which was your first mistake. I never said that, implying that I did was your second mistake. Not simply accepting my apology and moving on... well that just made you look silly.

 

Is this where we put a ninja? Oh yes I believe so.

[+Scubasonic]

Actually no. You said a rather disparaging remark about the OP and I voiced my disagreement with that. You assumed that the thread had boiled down to people's disdain for the subject despite the fact that it was still trying to stay on track. You perceived my comment to mean that I was telling you not to reply, which was your first mistake. I never said that, implying that I did was your second mistake. Not simply accepting my apology and moving on... well that just made you look silly.

 

Is this where we put a ninja? Oh yes I believe so.

 

Flintstone5611

 

Now your in the VORTEX

[+Team Geo-Rangers]

If the allure of an FTF makes you go out and geocache, then that's a good thing. Sure, be safe about it. Just as Alamogul has the most finds to date, whoever claims to have the most FTFs is a noteworthy accomplishment (2k+), even if it can not be verified. It is just a game and everyone plays it by their own preferences with a common goal - to have fun. Some derive enjoyment from posting their opinions and sharing humor in these forums, others choose to spend their time finding geocaches and seek to be first. Hide or Seek? Report the news or make it? The game needs both.

 

Different goals and player motivations help keep the game fresh, so to each their own ... because, it's all good!

Edited April 3, 2012 by Team Geo-Rangers

[4wheelin_fool]

So my question is does anyone know of anyone that has more then 1760 FTFs.

 

That's not really very much at all. I'm sure someone who was FTF on a powertrail or two has you beat.

[+WRASTRO]

Actually no. You said a rather disparaging remark about the OP and I voiced my disagreement with that. You assumed that the thread had boiled down to people's disdain for the subject despite the fact that it was still trying to stay on track. You perceived my comment to mean that I was telling you not to reply, which was your first mistake. I never said that, implying that I did was your second mistake. Not simply accepting my apology and moving on... well that just made you look silly.

 

Is this where we put a ninja? Oh yes I believe so.

Very nice. I don't play in the "tell someone they are an idiot and then claim ignorance" game very well. You didn't voice a disagreement. You just told me I needed to read the thread. Not to sound flippant, but that is why you get to read the original topic, but you also get to read the thread. And you need to be aware of the history of the topic. Perhaps your use of bold and underlined text will win the day. I don't think I have made any "mistakes" in this thread while expressing my opinions. After all, they are my opinions. You may not agree with my opinions, which is just fine. I think that is what the forums are all about.

 

I suppose I should acknowledge the vortex thing, whatever that is. Despite the fact that Scubasonic doesn't know how to type you're.

 

Next

[jholly]

I don't see what the big issue is, I got 6,325 FTF's, so there.

[+WRASTRO]

Oh my. I just got a love note from the op via the Groundspeak PM system:

 

So now I'm a one trick pony just because I asked aboutFTFs............Your Forum picture tells it all your a real piece of Dog s***.

 

Well done indeed.

 

[jholly]

The vortex is spinning faster.

[+TheAlabamaRambler]

I have sat here and watched the mud slinging and off topic comments and I just cant beleive it! My guess is that you can say anything and get away with it as long as your pals with the moderator.

No need to drag insulting the mods into this. There are some I know pretty well and consider friends who haven't hesitated to slap my hand or even issue a vacation when I got too far out there.

 

This thread does seem to prove out the fears for what this community might become that this site's founder voiced years ago. Too bad.

[+WRASTRO]

I have sat here and watched the mud slinging and off topic comments and I just cant beleive it! My guess is that you can say anything and get away with it as long as your pals with the moderator.

No need to drag insulting the mods into this. There are some I know pretty well and consider friends who haven't hesitated to slap my hand or even issue a vacation when I got too far out there.

 

This thread does seem to prove out the fears for what this community might become that this site's founder voiced years ago. Too bad.

 

Oh my. I hope I haven't been a part of what you refer to. I have done my best to keep things civil while pointing out behaviors I have observed from certain forum participants. If you believe I have forgotten the duties which I have heard so frequently inculcated and so forcefully recommended, I request you remind me in the most friendly manner of my fault..

[Pup Patrol]

I have sat here and watched the mud slinging and off topic comments and I just cant beleive it! My guess is that you can say anything and get away with it as long as your pals with the moderator.

 

There are quite a few moderators around here.

 

Maybe you would like to specify which one it is that you're accusing of favoritism.

 

 

 

B.

[knowschad]

For my part in this, I want to make a public apology to Scubasonic. The forums are not a place to attempt behavior modification. It is a place to discuss and debate ideas, not personalities. Sorry, Scuba... I was out of line.

 

Going back to bed now...

[+Snoogans]

The real question is: "who has the most self serving forum thread this week?"

 

Listen buddy, don't go starting a competition in my realm of endeavor. There a more threads with Snoogans as author, in the title, or subtitle, on this website than ANY other cachin' handle.

 

Sure, you know me personally and know I'm not an ego maniac, but I play one on the interwebs.

 

Hey, I saw this man carrying an Ironing Board at a Groundspeak Event, where he was looking for a wayward refridgerator door.

 

I'd take him seriously!

 

YEP!! I saw him too! I saw the Ironing Board and the Refrigerator Door.

 

I didnt get to met him but I thought he was a fun guy to have around if he had that sense of humor!

 

Sense of humor?!?

 

I knowww riiiight? Don't forget the section of iron fencing and the crappy folding chairs that I put out as trackables.

 

That's just callous and hard hearted. I guess I'm gonna have to put something bigger out to get folks to take me seriously.

 

[Keystone]