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The Lunch Club
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There has been a "buzz" in the Arizona geocaching community about "adult" orientated caches and whether there are any rules regarding these caches being posted on geocaching.com. Apparently a fellow AZ geocaching team placed a "Couples Only" cache that although far from pornographic stated is was not intended for children. It was denied posting by a volunteer stating a cache must be for the entire family. This topic has thus been thrown around on azgeocaching.com for the last week. There appears to already be one Adult Only cache in Arizona listed on the site but would like to understand the oficial rules and opinions that relate to this topic. Thank you again for all the effort in making this a truly unique and enjoyable sport/hobby.

 

The Lunch Club

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Adult themed caches are considered off-limits to list on the web site. Geocaching.com considers the activity "family oriented," not "family creating."

 

Not everyone reads the cache pages, so an "adult only" cache isn't appropriate for the sport. Besides, I'd apply the same reasoning regarding food in caches to adult toys.

 

If there is already an adult themed cache out there, I'd like to know so it can be archived.

 

Jeremy Irish

Groundspeak - The Language of Location

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There would be trouble if adult material, linkable to GeoCaching.com, is found by The Man - it would reflect poorly on the web site and the entire sport. Of course, this is a free country, so nothing is stopping you from dumping your stash of pr0n in the woods. icon_confused.gif Just don't log it on the website.

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I agree with Jeremy and Goatbeard: urban woods have enough "funny stuff" going on in them that we don't need to start dating services, picture swaps, things of that order.

 

Think of it this way: Your name and contact info is supposed to be all over the cache. Do you want someone who stumbles over this know you left it there?

 

I am Arrowroot, son of Arrowshirt. I have many names, you know

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All well and good, but there are cache locations that are not appropriate for children (especially small children) but that are not pornographic.

There have been times that I have gotten to the site when caching with 5 yr old twins, and while it was a great place for a cache, the venue just wasn't a good one for little kids.

 

Haicoole

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I can understand the thrill of "clothing optional" caches but I can also understand the GeoCaching name wanting to stay away from such activity. Seems that the cachers that want the adult oriented caches could start their own website under a different name. Co-ordinates are free, no reason why they can't be listed somewhere else.

 

I do prefer the caches that I can look for with my family though.

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Originally posted by mrcpu:

Keep it clean on Geocaching.com... if your into clothing optional caches then start your own site!

 

Kind of adds new meaning to "logging a find" doesn't it!

 

Rob

Mobile Cache Command


 

Here's a better idea, if you're NOT interested in clothing optional areas DON'T GO. Nobody's making you do EVERY CACHE. I know someone will chime in with a "family friendly" BS line. If all caches have to be family friendly, then ANY cache with a terrain rating higher than 2 needs to be removed. Also remove any caches near busy streets. Any with a difficutly higer than 3, don't want the kiddies to NOT be able to find it....

 

I'm lost. I've gone to find myself. If I should happen to get back before I return, please ask me to wait.

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I know someone will chime in with a "family friendly" BS line.

 

I think Jeremy AKA "the powers that be" already chimed in on this thread with that line of BS.

 

I for one apreciate his stand. Geocaching has been a great activity for my family.

 

I love that fact that I can browse the website and not have to worry that my 11 year old daughter might be looking over my shoulder.

 

I think the Groundspeak team has done a great job, and I never have any qualms giving out the goecaching url out to friends even at church. How many websites can you say that about?

 

Kudos to Jeremy and his team for keeping geocaching.com family friendly, so few things are these days.

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I think Jeremy AKA "the powers that be" already chimed in on this thread with that line of BS.

 


 

I know he did, but that's my whole point. Not all caches are family friendly. And not all cacher's idea of "family friendly" is the same.

Would you take the little kids on a 2 mile hike up steep terrain to get a cache? What about one that required scuba gear? Or extensive rockclimbing? Are those 'family friendly'?

 

I don't have ANY problems with Jeremy saying such and such types of caches aren't acceptable. I'd rather he just came out and said "You can't do it because it's my site and I said so" than to push some lame crap like "It's not family friendly"

 

I'm lost. I've gone to find myself. If I should happen to get back before I return, please ask me to wait.

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I don't have ANY problems with Jeremy saying such and such types of caches aren't acceptable. I'd rather he just came out and said "You can't do it because it's my site and I said so" than to push some lame crap like "It's not family friendly"


 

I'm sorry, but "family friendly" activities are not "lame crap" to me.

 

Underwater caches and caches at the end of a 2 mile uphill hike might be family appropriate depending on ages and abilities.

 

My family includes my parents in their 60's some young adults and my youngest daughter who is 11. All I'm saying is, that I like the fact that geocaching.com is appropriate to all our ages.

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I knew someone would mention "family friendly" and steep hills or caches near busy streets. Parse the words and drift the meaning all you want, but "family friendly" means pretty much what it says - something the whole family can enjoy without having to monitor what inappropriate material the kids may get into. Listen to the meaning - not the words. OK, let the enlightened ones flame me now, I have my asbestos suit on (and yes, it chaffes).

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I know he did, but that's my whole point. Not all caches are family friendly. And not all cacher's idea of "family friendly" is the same.

Would you take the little kids on a 2 mile hike up steep terrain to get a cache? What about one that required scuba gear? Or extensive rockclimbing? Are those 'family friendly'?

 

I don't have ANY problems with Jeremy saying such and such types of caches aren't acceptable. I'd rather he just came out and said "You can't do it because it's my site and I said so" than to push some lame crap like "It's not family friendly"


 

Two things; Firstly, YES I would take my kid on a long, rough hike, when he is old enough for it. BUT at that age, he isn't old enough to see the "crap" (to use your favorite adjective/pronoun) that you want to pollute this site with.

 

Secondly, by keeping a certain "standard" that upholds a set of values that apply to the common denomitator, Jeremy keeps the site out of trouble and helps the sport.

 

Again, go register nudecaching.com if you feel that you want to promote alternative lifestyle caching. I might even come over there and visit, BUT I don't want that stuff here and neither does the majority. It's a free internet, you don't like the way something is done build your own! :-)

 

Rob

Mobile Cache Command

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Posted by mrcpu:

Again, go register nudecaching.com if you feel that you want to promote alternative lifestyle caching. I might even come over there and visit, BUT I don't want that stuff here and neither does the majority. It's a free internet, you don't like the way something is done build your own! :-)


 

AGREED!

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I agree with everyone wanting to keep this family oriented and let's at least stop using the euphemism of 'adult only' when we really mean 'sex oriented'! (little pet peeve of mine)

 

After all, an adult oriented cache could mean good wine lists or restaurant certificates or interesting books for examples.

 

"The hardest thing to find is something that's not there!"

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Yup - keep the naughty stuff to the naughty sites.

 

This is familiy freindly hobby (for me and mine). If my wife and I want to go doing naughty things with my GPS, I'll type "naughty GPS" into google and we'll see where that goes ("ooooo wear your Tilley hat tonight, you big naughty cacher, you"!), but for this site - I gave the address to my 8 year old nephew.

 

Not to mention I log on during lunch, from a Canadian Military computer... the last thing I want is my avatar on CBC NewsWorld icon_eek.gif

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("ooooo wear your Tilley hat tonight, you big naughty cacher, you"!),

 

My wife bought me a pair of Tilley pants. She says they look great on me! I think they look even better on the floor beside her bed! ... ooops... naughty naughty!

 

Rob

Mobile Cache Command

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who used the correct word: oriented. "Orientated" is not a word.

 

Really.

 

Trust me on this.

 

I mean, would you say "I salivateted over the chipped beef on toast"? Of course not. That stuff tastes like crap.

 

Many thanks for your time and understanding. I'll get back on the meds soon.

 

X is for X, and X marks the spot, On the rug in the parlor, The sand in the lot, Where once you were standing, And now you are not.

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Originally posted by Jeremy Irish:

Adult themed caches are considered off-limits to list on the web site. Geocaching.com considers the activity "family oriented," not "family creating."

 

Not everyone reads the cache pages, so an "adult only" cache isn't appropriate for the sport. Besides, I'd apply the same reasoning regarding food in caches to adult toys.

 

Absolutly!!! I would NOT wnat my nine year old daughter finding the latest copy of Penthouse... or whatever!!!

 

Eagles may soar but weasels never get sucked into jet air intakes.

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I also admire Jeremy for keeping the sport "Family Friendly" I enjoy taking my 3yr old grandson on caches. And would like to be able to take my daughter or daughter-in-law on any cache. I carry my Pocket PC with me now to have access to the postings, but I dont want to "have to" read every one I search for.

As others have said if you want "adult oriented" caches, please make a new site for that.

 

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i think we need to be careful about the designation "adult oriented". there's an awful lot of stuff that while not inappropriate for children may be uninteresting to them. i used to work as a children's storyteller. i still work as a storyteller, but very few children enjoy my current "adult" work. they just don't get it.

 

i also think sexually explicit material is inappropriate for cache boxes, but where do you draw the line? a book exchange that had a book in it that refers to sex (while not actually describing it)? i think the best answer is to simply get there before your kids and monitor what they see.

 

there's a big difference between what is of prurient interest and what is simply not intended for children.

 

and by the way, i love creamed chipped beef. on either toast or mashed potatoes.

 

it doesn't matter if you get to camp at one or at six. dinner is still at six.

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Originally posted by enfanta:

who used the correct word: oriented. "Orientated" is not a word.

 

Really.

 

Trust me on this.

 

I mean, would you say "I salivateted over the chipped beef on toast"? Of course not. That stuff tastes like crap.

 

Many thanks for your time and understanding. I'll get back on the meds soon.

 

X is for X, and X marks the spot, On the rug in the parlor, The sand in the lot, Where once you were standing, And now you are not.


 

I'm new (still waiting for my eTrex coming in tomorrow) but I like this group already. I worked as a flight test electrician for a while at Boeing, 90% of the flight test people would instrumentate an airplane, I always instrumented it. Orientated is another I hear a lot. I saw another post here that congratulated someone for being able to spell "voila" correctly (instead of wahla, wa la etc.) I loved that. On another board I belong to a guy typed "for all intensive purposes..." (instead of "all intents and purposes"). I find it funny, but think some people just don't care enough about communication to get the little subtleties correct, which is fine, as long as I know what they mean. I still cringe a little when I hear Orintated or the like.

 

If trees could scream, would we still cut them down?

Well, maybe if they screamed all the time, for no reason.

 

edit: Oh yeh, forgot to say, you can find porn/adult stuff in a million places, I don't think it needs to be part of geocaching. just MHO. Maybe eroscaching.

 

[This message was edited by martmann on March 06, 2003 at 02:49 PM.]

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Well, what do you want to share with the community?

 

Used juicy magazines ? Go to local exchange communities. icon_razz.gif

 

Used rubber stuff ? Well ... refer to the movie 'Blues Brothers' icon_cool.gif

 

Used lingerie ??? There really are enough communities on the internet even for this astonishingly popular topic. icon_biggrin.gif

 

However please stick to the geocaching policy and especially don't give anybody in the community the need to going beyond condoms [unused of course, see above icon_wink.gif] when explaining the cache content to a 10-year-old god-son you just drew away from his TV-set or even X-Box into the woods, especially when accompanied by his parents icon_smile.gificon_smile.gificon_smile.gif !

 

Just my 2 cents,

 

Eddie

 

If privacy is outlawed only outlaws will have privacy !

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Hello to all,

 

I'd like to quote the GeoCaching FAQ concerning the question "What shouldn't be in a cache?"

 

[..] All ages of people hide and seek caches, so use some thought before placing an item into a cache.

 

[..]

 

So, any questions left ???

 

Eddie

 

If privacy is outlawed only outlaws will have privacy !

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adult geocaching?

 

I havent been to azgeocaching so I'm not sure what this adult cache entailed, but if it involved trading of "playthings" then to that I say a big fat EWW! That said, I don't see anything wrong with concept caches (although I personally can't even think of anything in that arena that I could somehow link to geocaching...) if they were labeled as such. Don't like it? don't seek it. I agree with team lightfoots point (poorly worded as it it was) regarding being honest. On the other hand, I can completely understand that Jeremy & company don't want to see the whole sport get trashed because some numb-nut did a poorly designed nudist cache (or whatever) which caused someone to get arrested. or something equally stupid.

 

To sum up: nice idea. too fraught with perils. don't see how it could be done safely. moving on.

 

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