What's the next oldest continuously active cache to Mingo?

[+Snoogans]

I haven't a clue?

 

Where is it?

 

When was it listed?

 

Who owns it?

 

Perhaps it can be preserved before someone spoils all the fun.

[+Snoogans]

Mingo is dead. LONG LIVE MINGO er the next oldest cache.

[+Totem Clan]

GC12, I believe.

[+Snoogans]

GC12, I believe.

 

And FTF'd by Mike Teague himself. Cool.

 

It's not an off the highway romp like Mingo. Too bad. So sad.

[+PokerLuck]

There are four caches left in the USA that were placed in May of 2000:

 

GC12 - Oregon

GC28 - Illinois

GC31 - Kansas

GC39 - New York

Edited March 15, 2012 by PokerLuck

[+Totem Clan]

GC12, I believe.

 

And FTF'd by Mike Teague himself. Cool.

 

It's not an off the highway romp like Mingo. Too bad. So sad.

You mean they might have to go in the woods to get the smiley?!?

[+jellis]

It's a beautiful spot. Well where the GZ is difficult but it is beautiful area. If you go you continue in the same area you can also find GC17 the third oldest in Oregon. The 2nd oldest we also found in the same day.

 

Trail we took to GC12

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Also near GC12 (you see this you are very close but you passed it)

 

Yes it's a spoiler but there are many images of the cache.

 

Great view on the way to GC17

 

But there was snow on our way to GC17

[+BBWolf+3Pigs]

GC12, I believe.

 

So, two days after Mingo gets archived, we'd have a new "longest active cache" title holder.

[+Snoogans]

GC12, I believe.

 

And FTF'd by Mike Teague himself. Cool.

 

It's not an off the highway romp like Mingo. Too bad. So sad.

You mean they might have to go in the woods to get the smiley?!?

Perish the thought I know. Right?

[+lamoracke]

that git with a green coat looks familiar.

[+jellis]

that git with a green coat looks familiar.

If you want I can add the ammo can.

 

Boy am I getting bored here. I want to do some caching. You better take me out.

Is this called Cabin Fever?

[+lamoracke]

that git with a green coat looks familiar.

If you want I can add the ammo can.

 

Boy am I getting bored here. I want to do some caching. You better take me out.

Is this called Cabin Fever?

 

too far to pick you up. I might go get a few since the rain disappeared for a brief moment. Not that it would stop me, rain that is.

[+jellis]

that git with a green coat looks familiar.

If you want I can add the ammo can.

 

Boy am I getting bored here. I want to do some caching. You better take me out.

Is this called Cabin Fever?

 

too far to pick you up. I might go get a few since the rain disappeared for a brief moment. Not that it would stop me, rain that is.

I mean when you pick me up. You are I hope

 

Now to add that bookmark to my list.

[+nikcap]

There are four caches left in the USA that were placed in May of 2000:

 

GC12 - Oregon

GC28 - Illinois

GC31 - Kansas

GC39 - New York

 

How is it that Mingo is GC30, but GC12 in Oregon and Beverly were hidden after Mingo?

[+jellis]

There are four caches left in the USA that were placed in May of 2000:

 

GC12 - Oregon

GC28 - Illinois

GC31 - Kansas

GC39 - New York

 

How is it that Mingo is GC30, but GC12 in Oregon and Beverly were hidden after Mingo?

They messed up on the waypoint order. You have to go by placed date

[+nikcap]

There are four caches left in the USA that were placed in May of 2000:

 

GC12 - Oregon

GC28 - Illinois

GC31 - Kansas

GC39 - New York

 

How is it that Mingo is GC30, but GC12 in Oregon and Beverly were hidden after Mingo?

They messed up on the waypoint order. You have to go by placed date

 

Oh, OK. and since the CO can change the placed/hidden date, that's not a very good measure either.

 

So, with all of the hubbub & ballyhoo over MINGO, are we even sure that it's really the oldest active cache out there?

[+jellis]

There are four caches left in the USA that were placed in May of 2000:

 

GC12 - Oregon

GC28 - Illinois

GC31 - Kansas

GC39 - New York

 

How is it that Mingo is GC30, but GC12 in Oregon and Beverly were hidden after Mingo?

They messed up on the waypoint order. You have to go by placed date

 

Oh, OK. and since the CO can change the placed/hidden date, that's not a very good measure either.

 

So, with all of the hubbub & ballyhoo over MINGO, are we even sure that it's really the oldest active cache out there?

The first few years there were no published dates so that is the way they are dating them. I am sure if others do try to change the dates to try to be older now we all would know. I saw one in California claiming 1981

[+Lil Devil]

The first couple dozen caches were copied from the newsfeed/other websites to geocaching.com in order by state. That's why they're not in GC Code order.

 

Back in 2000/2001, Moun10Bike created this list before anyone really had a chance (or reason) to muck with the dates.

[+addisonbr]

How is it that Mingo is GC30, but GC12 in Oregon and Beverly were hidden after Mingo?

The waypoints for the first bunches of caches that were bulk imported into Groundspeak's servers were input to the system not by date but by state order, starting with states in the Pacific Northwest and then moving across the rest of the country.

 

The dates for the earliest caches can often be established by examining the old posts to the usenet forums, before there was a Groundspeak (it may surprise some new folks that geocaching existed before Groundspeak did, and people advertised their caches on usenet and on mailing lists.)

 

For those who like geocaching history (I count myself firmly among them) it can be fun to go through that old, public-domain data.

 

Here is a post that pretty much establishes Mingo's existence on May 11th 2000:

 

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.geo.satellite-nav/browse_thread/thread/5482bb5ab0e5080f/987e67d70a04562d?lnk=gst

[+Legochugglers]

It would appear that GC12 is a much better cache than MINGO and certainly more of a challenge (especially in the winter months) although it could do with a more interesting title and description (LOL). I also notice that the cache needs maintenance as it was full of water last time it was found.

 

Lets hope the 'oldest cache' could end up as something that the Geocaching community could actually be proud of making a pilgrimage to go and find rather than a throwdown near a fence.

[+grateful cacher]

Actaully, I wouldn't plan on going for GC12 in the winter unless you have a dog sled. It's usually under snow for most of the winter, and not accessible. (Same for GC17, which is right next door to ti).

 

It would appear that GC12 is a much better cache than MINGO and certainly more of a challenge (especially in the winter months) although it could do with a more interesting title and description (LOL). I also notice that the cache needs maintenance as it was full of water last time it was found.

 

Lets hope the 'oldest cache' could end up as something that the Geocaching community could actually be proud of making a pilgrimage to go and find rather than a throwdown near a fence.

[+jellis]

How is it that Mingo is GC30, but GC12 in Oregon and Beverly were hidden after Mingo?

The waypoints for the first bunches of caches that were bulk imported into Groundspeak's servers were input to the system not by date but by state order, starting with states in the Pacific Northwest and then moving across the rest of the country.

 

The dates for the earliest caches can often be established by examining the old posts to the usenet forums, before there was a Groundspeak (it may surprise some new folks that geocaching existed before Groundspeak did, and people advertised their caches on usenet and on mailing lists.)

 

For those who like geocaching history (I count myself firmly among them) it can be fun to go through that old, public-domain data.

 

Here is a post that pretty much establishes Mingo's existence on May 11th 2000:

 

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.geo.satellite-nav/browse_thread/thread/5482bb5ab0e5080f/987e67d70a04562d?lnk=gst

Found the firstsecond message

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.geo.satellite-nav/browse_thread/thread/c52da9008c2edfd7/c7f8fb570742a6fb?lnk=gst&q=triax#c7f8fb570742a6fb

Edited March 16, 2012 by jellis