+Carbon Hunter Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I see that many of the EU and US cachers aim for the Matrix challenges - namely the FIZZY challenge (i.e. completing all 81 D/T cache combinations) and the CHAMPAGNE channlneg (i.e. all the whole number D/T combinations). I am not close to either of these and they have not been an issue for me as yet. However on the recent Sani Top event in March 2012 I met a couple of the old hands at SA caching and started wondering if anyone has completed either of these as yet. And then after speaking to the 4 mad Cape cachers who were on a great caching adventure, I discovered that AndyT1 was very close to acheiving the Fizzy. So here is a forum for SA cacher to log their FIZZY and Champagne acheivements. Anyone have any idea of who the SA cachers are that have already acheived this (any GSAK wizards)? Quote Link to comment
+OZ2CPU Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) compleeting all 81 matrix combinations is just another possible way to add a bit of fun to your way of caching and selecting where to go, Since I started aiming for the 81, I seen so much new and cool and it extended my ways of making new caches too, I also cary much more equipment even on a regular cache day. I still need a few combinations, the last few are very far away. Dont take it for more than it is, a cache rating is very subjective, some rank hi, others low, some are experts in hard to get or good hide at low hights, if you are not the same expert, or just got a bit of bad luck, it is close to impossible to find or get it :-) Edited March 14, 2012 by OZ2CPU Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 I see Andy T1 just completed the FIZZY - or complete Matrix Is he the first?? SA FIZZY Masters 1. Andy T1 - March 2012 2. ??????? Quote Link to comment
besem Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Many congratulations to AndyT1 on completing the FIZZY challenge on one of my caches! I heard of his plans during the Lesotho event and had to keep mum until he had achieved it. Looking forward to the next spate of FIZZY tourists visiting Grahamstown to pick up the only 5/4.5 in the country. It's a true 5/4.5, as I'm sure the Crazy Cape Quartet can attest to. Quote Link to comment
+Zambesiboy Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Great Kudos to AndyT1 - the focus was kept. Now I need one more.....hmmmmm! Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 Andy - you get a mention on show 363 of the Podcacher podcast too, so take a listen. Quote Link to comment
+Zambesiboy Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Andy - you get a mention on show 363 of the Podcacher podcast too, so take a listen. Do you have a link..... Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 Here is the link - a very interesting weekly show - out each Monday. Show 363 Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 Most of the 81 Difficulty/Terrain combinations found in Africa: 1. AndyT1: 81 2. Zambesiboy: 80 3. iPajero: 77 4. cownchicken: 73 5. Henzz: 73 6. brianhfox: 72 7. capeccr: 72 8. paddawan: 71 9. Noddy: 68 10. ralph1dc: 68 Quote Link to comment
+Henzz Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Congratulations to Zambesiboy who completed the FIZZY this weekend in the Cederberg. GIVE THAT MAN A BELLS... Quote Link to comment
besem Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Congratulations to Zambesiboy who completed the FIZZY this weekend in the Cederberg. GIVE THAT MAN A BELLS... Whoo hoo! Rock on Zambeziboy! Henzz, you and paddawan are next, right? Quote Link to comment
+Zambesiboy Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 It is a fun "personal" challenge for sure and when I saw that in the 'states I would have to travel more than 1500km to find the one I am missing I became quite focused (my lovely lady would say obsessed) on getting that last very hard one in South Africa. Some of the places I have been so privileged to see are beyond description, and the folk along the way are equally fantastic. Quote Link to comment
+AndyT1 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Great stuff Zambesiboy !!! Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted April 8, 2012 Author Share Posted April 8, 2012 It is a fun "personal" challenge for sure and when I saw that in the 'states I would have to travel more than 1500km to find the one I am missing I became quite focused (my lovely lady would say obsessed) on getting that last very hard one in South Africa. Some of the places I have been so privileged to see are beyond description, and the folk along the way are equally fantastic. Well done Zambesiboy - a brilliant acheievement. They keep rolling in. Come on Number 3! Who will it be? Quote Link to comment
+cownchicken Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Congratulations iPajero!! Quote Link to comment
+AndyT1 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Well done to iPajero on completing the Matrix !!! Great to hae been there to witness the event. Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted May 21, 2012 Author Share Posted May 21, 2012 Well done iPajero - a great achievement. And also well done to andyT1 for placing 2 excellent challenge caches in Cape Town - one for the Champagne and one for the Fizzy. 2 more on the "to-do" list now. Quote Link to comment
+Henzz Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Well Done iPajero. Great achievement. Quote Link to comment
+Zambesiboy Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Well done Ipajero - fantastic achievement and so nice to share the consequent FTF with you today! And then there were three musketeers - who is next????? Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 I see I need 5 more cachers to complete the Champagne - so that's my next challenege (after getting 50 Earthcache finds) Quote Link to comment
+cincol Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Can somebody please explain what these different things entail? Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 Champagne Challenege - you need to find at least on cache on the Difficulty/Terain (D/T) matrix of all whole numbers : so a 1/1; 1/2; 1/3 etc. all the way to 5/3/; 5/4; 5/5. The Fizzy Challenge is to find a cache in every configuration of the D/T matirx (i.e. 81 different combinations). It is named after the first cacher to do this (a guy called FizzyLogic in the US I believe). Explaination on the Fizzy So far only 3 cachers in SA have achieved this: AndyT1 Zambesiboy iPajero Quote Link to comment
+cownchicken Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Well done Ipajero - fantastic achievement and so nice to share the consequent FTF with you today! And then there were three musketeers - who is next????? Think it will be Henzz! Quote Link to comment
+Zambesiboy Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Or both at the same time and same cache???? Quote Link to comment
+cownchicken Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Looking interesting! Quote Link to comment
+Henzz Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Cownchicken is in the final straight as well... So this looks like a three horse race for 4th place. Very interesting... Quote Link to comment
+cownchicken Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 (edited) Would be interesting to know which caches we all need to find before the champagne! We know that Henzz also needs one in the Cedarberg. The plan is we'll do this one together once we have done the Otter. Looking forward to that one Henzz. Edited May 23, 2012 by cownchicken Quote Link to comment
+dprovan Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 The Fizzy Challenge is to find a cache in every configuration of the D/T matirx (i.e. 81 different combinations). It is named after the first cacher to do this (a guy called FizzyLogic in the US I believe). Explaination on the Fizzy As your own link shows, it was named after fizzymagic. The link also says only that it was named after him because his FindStats program displayed this information, although it wouldn't surprise me if he was also the first person to fill in the grid. That was all way before my time. Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted May 24, 2012 Author Share Posted May 24, 2012 The Fizzy Challenge is to find a cache in every configuration of the D/T matirx (i.e. 81 different combinations). It is named after the first cacher to do this (a guy called FizzyLogic in the US I believe). Explaination on the Fizzy As your own link shows, it was named after fizzymagic. The link also says only that it was named after him because his FindStats program displayed this information, although it wouldn't surprise me if he was also the first person to fill in the grid. That was all way before my time. Thank you for the correction. Quote Link to comment
+dprovan Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Thank you for the correction. Not a problem. Lord knows why I was reading a South African forum, but I'm glad to meet you! fizzymagic's local to me and I've met him, so it peaked my interest when you said the challenges were named after someone else. I've always assumed it was him, but it was only after I read your link that I learned it was for a fact. By the way, I looked at that first fizzy challenge cache, and fizzymagic's log shows that he still had to work to fill in the grid after several others had already been able to claim the find, so he definitely wasn't the first. Now we know! Quote Link to comment
+Henzz Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Would be interesting to know which caches we all need to find before the champagne!fizzy We know that Henzz also needs one in the Cedarberg. The plan is we'll do this one together once we have done the Otter. Looking forward to that one Henzz. Hi CnC. This is what I need... (2.5/4) --- Knife Edge. (4.5/4) --- Blank Page. (5/4.5) --- Table Top (Cedar Berg) (5/2.5) --- Rustic, scenic corner. Quote Link to comment
+cownchicken Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 We need: Table Top (Cederberg) GCZK12 (5/4.5) Western Cape Elementary, my dear Watson GC33749 (5/4) Eastern Cape Rescue Kit GC1D6MK (4.5/3.5) Gauteng Rustic, scenic, corner GC2KB62 (5/2.5) Gauteng Quote Link to comment
+iPajero Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Congratulations to Paddawan for completing his matrix - well done! We also had the privilege of bumping into him (and his two boys) at the South African Fizzy Challenge cache just after he had signed the log! How's that for co-incidence! It was such a beautiful day in CT so us as Team iPajero decided to visit this cache as only N had been there in the mist when he found the FTF with Zambeziboy. Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted May 27, 2012 Author Share Posted May 27, 2012 Well done Paddawan - a late charge for the line - .... then there were Four. Quote Link to comment
+AndyT1 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Nice one Paddawan, great for going the extra few miles and traveling so far for those last few caches !!! Quote Link to comment
+tomtwogates Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Congratulations to Paddawan for completing his matrix - well done! Great one Paddawan - well done! Quote Link to comment
+Zambesiboy Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Well done Paddy!!! - The band of four now. Hats off to Andy for providing the focus and excitement of this aspect of caching - so nice to have goals. Quote Link to comment
+cownchicken Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Well done Patrick!! And so Henzz will the next spot be a joint effort? Quote Link to comment
+Henzz Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 9x9 Congrats Paddy... Well Done. Quote Link to comment
+Henzz Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 And so Henzz will the next spot be a joint effort? It might require a little trip to Gauteng. Quote Link to comment
+paddawan Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Thanks very much. Been great fun! Now to complete the logging. Quote Link to comment
+Hesamati Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 At the risk of starting a whole "what does the stats mean?" discussion a practical and philosophical conundrum for those so inclined... Filling the T/D matrix also has another dimension, i.e. new caches might be "influenced" (not necessarily consciously or maliciously, let's face it these are by no means standardised) to create more options for those currently rare combinations (see FTR's post in stats). So, first philosophical, like all the other stats the "value" of the achievement will probably decrease over time as we've seen with "just numbers". So kudos to the first few cachers to achieve anything related to stats! Secondly (and more importantly to me as a cache owner), how do you balance the D rating (especially at high T ratings) between making it a real 4-5 star find w/o sending a lot of disgruntled cachers home empty handed after a difficult/dangerous/equipment requiring hike/scramble/climb/dive/whatever? Especially when taking the hint into account. Placing a 5/5 cache amongst millions of rocks (or a micro in a Karoo-bossie... ) is easy w/o any hint, but will definitely not get a favourite from me. Manipulating this by creating mystery caches might be an option but again doesn't have "real value" as this gets watered down as people start sharing info (as should happen). Would love to hear your opinions on this (and please let's stay clear of the "it's not important to start off with" arguments - we actually know that but can't help finding it interesting all the same!). Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 Agree Hesamati - the early finders definitely had a garder time. Like the guys who took ages to make the 1000 mark - and now there are plenty of SA cachers with an excess of 1000. Quote Link to comment
+Zambesiboy Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 I have to agree with the last few comments..... I started caching more than 8 years ago - took more than 3 years to get to 100 and another few years to crack 1000. In the last year or two the proliferation of caches makes those numbers quite easy to achieve. Having different goals however adds a new element to caching - filling the matrix is just one of those. Finding all the caches that have a "5" in them is another. All of the caches on Table mountain yet another. All these are totally personal and do not impact in any others interpretation or enjoyment of caching. That is one of the great aspects of this sport - it IS all things to all people. As thye would say in Zimbabwe - "Aluta continua!" Look forward to seeing folk on Saturday. Quote Link to comment
+Henzz Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 And then there were three more... All crossing the line together Quote Link to comment
+Carbon Hunter Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 And then there were three more... All crossing the line together Congratulations - and tell us more. Has a non-Capie joined the ranks? Quote Link to comment
+Henzz Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Hi Carbon Hunter... 3 Capies it was again... It was a Monster Hike... The toughest final straight one can imagine... A 9 1/2 hour hike up and down Tabletop (Cederberg). Crazy rock scrambles, narrow ledges, scary stepovers, ropes and chains... But we made it... The landscape up there is very alien.. It was as if we were on a different planet.. Congrats Cownchicken and Huskies... It was great to complete the Matrix with you guys... And we did it in style... Quote Link to comment
+Hesamati Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Congrats to CownChicken, The Huskies and Henzz for entering the matrix! Probably the toughest challenge out there - salute! Quote Link to comment
+AndyT1 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Well done to CownChicken, The Huskies and Henzz. Great to have been there (well almost anyway) when it happened !! Quote Link to comment
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