+scottmcblane Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 What is the viewpoint on a cache that is planted in/near a cemetery. Do you it's inappropriate/disrespectful? Quote Link to comment
+cx1 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I did, but then I changed my mind. Quote Link to comment
+ArcherDragoon Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Depends on how/where it is placed and permission... Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 If the cache is placed with respect to the graves I have no problems with it. If the cache teaches me something about the history or points out lost cemeteries out in the woods, even better. If the cache is an offset multi that requires me to learn a bit from the graves and the container is outside the perimeter-the best of both worlds. Quote Link to comment
+AneMae Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I have seen some very well done cemetery caches in my area. The cache pages made sure to remind people to respect the area and take in the history. I really enjoyed them. Quote Link to comment
MisterEFQ Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I don't like them. But its not my property, so I have no say about it. So go for it if thats your bag. Like most things in geocaching, you are going to get a huge variety of opinions. Quote Link to comment
+St.Matthew Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 If they are done respectfully, then they are my favorite caches. Quote Link to comment
+L0ne.R Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) I especially like the old pioneer cemeteries. Most of the caches I've found were on the perimeter of the cemetery. Edited January 26, 2012 by Solitario R Quote Link to comment
+DanOCan Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Historical cemetery caches can be great things. Ones in "active" cemeteries aren't my cup of tea. There is such a wide variety of cache hides I don't think I can take an entire style and sum it up as "good" or "bad". It depends on many things. Quote Link to comment
+ras_oscar Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I have never had any hesitation to seek caches in cemetarys. Always hidden at the perimeter or in a tree. I don't walk over graves. Quote Link to comment
+dprovan Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I think they're great. In my experience, the residents are always happy for the visit. Quote Link to comment
+QuiltinNana Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I love cemetery caches. I told my husband, that if I pass before him, I want him to use my stone for a cache of some sort, that way I can have lots of visitors. Quote Link to comment
+zodiac73 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 This is one good reason for rules banning buried caches! Quote Link to comment
+pteryndactyl Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I love cemetery caches; I've even hidden a few myself. I can't really recall any that I've seen that were particularly disrespectful (on/too near graves) - most are tucked into trees, bushes, or at the edges of the cemetery. Frankly, if I were dead, I'd rather enjoy the thought of people visiting me while enjoying their hobby! Quote Link to comment
+NicknPapa Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I like them, especially in older cemeteries that have a bit of history and interesting monuments. In fact I adopted two (one traditional and one multi that requires the finder to gather information from various interesting places in the cemetery to find the coords for the final) plus a two stage mystery cache that may or may not have a stage hidden in a cemetery. Quote Link to comment
+giannelli55 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I LOVE cemetery caches! Mainly because I can search with minimal to no muggles. Additionally, they can be scenic and full of history! Quote Link to comment
+Ambrosia Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I love cemeteries, so I love cemetery caches. My MIL also has a love of cemeteries and has placed a lot of cemetery caches. I used to have one as well, that was outside of the cemetery itself (an historic Native American cemetery). I eventually archived it because a neighbour was upset about it. Quote Link to comment
AZcachemeister Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Out of about 50 'cemetery caches' (widely varying styles), there was only one I didn't enjoy or thought was inappropriate. Please don't stuff a micro under one corner of someone's headstone. Quote Link to comment
+Team Dennis Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I love cemeteries, so I love cemetery caches. +1 I did a cemetery cache last Sunday near an airport in St Paul, MN. Knowschad (yes, he's still alive) told me that I needed to go to the back of the cemetery for perhaps the coolest marker ever. We hiked back and sure enough that guy wasn't lying. It was an engine and prop from an old plane. I really wish I had my camera along for the trip. I'll probably be going back someday just for pictures. Quote Link to comment
+NicknPapa Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I love cemeteries, so I love cemetery caches. +1 I did a cemetery cache last Sunday near an airport in St Paul, MN. Knowschad (yes, he's still alive) told me that I needed to go to the back of the cemetery for perhaps the coolest marker ever. We hiked back and sure enough that guy wasn't lying. It was an engine and prop from an old plane. I really wish I had my camera along for the trip. I'll probably be going back someday just for pictures. What's that cache? Please? Pretty please? Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 If they are done respectfully, then they are my favorite caches. I have to agree. Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I love cemeteries, so I love cemetery caches. My MIL also has a love of cemeteries and has placed a lot of cemetery caches. I used to have one as well, that was outside of the cemetery itself (an historic Native American cemetery). I eventually archived it because a neighbour was upset about it. I just had to peek. We are both Waymarkers that love old Cemeterys. I also believe that some sites make better Waymarks than a place to hide a geocache. I have completed one Cemetery Challange recently in a old historic Cemetery. BTW: Nice Waymark. Quote Link to comment
+Ambrosia Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I love cemeteries, so I love cemetery caches. My MIL also has a love of cemeteries and has placed a lot of cemetery caches. I used to have one as well, that was outside of the cemetery itself (an historic Native American cemetery). I eventually archived it because a neighbour was upset about it. I just had to peek. We are both Waymarkers that love old Cemeterys. I also believe that some sites make better Waymarks than a place to hide a geocache. I have completed one Cemetery Challange recently in a old historic Cemetery. BTW: Nice Waymark. Thanks! I haven't been Waymarking as much lately, I've been wanting to get back into it. I have some more cemetery related waymarks waiting in the queue that I need to finish. Quote Link to comment
+Team Dennis Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I love cemeteries, so I love cemetery caches. +1 I did a cemetery cache last Sunday near an airport in St Paul, MN. Knowschad (yes, he's still alive) told me that I needed to go to the back of the cemetery for perhaps the coolest marker ever. We hiked back and sure enough that guy wasn't lying. It was an engine and prop from an old plane. I really wish I had my camera along for the trip. I'll probably be going back someday just for pictures. What's that cache? Please? Pretty please? Here's the cache: Pearly Gates at the Old Union Here's the engine: Quote Link to comment
Dinoprophet Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 They're as good as any other historical site. Here's a fantastic thread of photos from cemetery caches Quote Link to comment
+OldLog Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Cemetery caches are my favorite. Done respectfully they can be a great source of history and for the most part are muggle free. Quote Link to comment
+BAMBOOZLE Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Cemetery caches are my favorite. Done respectfully they can be a great source of history and for the most part are muggle free. I agree......and the older the cemetery the better. Quote Link to comment
+hzoi Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I'm not a fan of caches hidden in the middle of cemeteries, I don't think they're respectful. Most I've seen have been micros, not too bad, but once we found a TB hotel that was right next to a headstone, you had to walk over the grave to get it. Not cool. Caches on the edge of a cemetery are mighty fine good to go, as others have said, the more historic the cemetery the better. Quote Link to comment
+GeoReapers Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I spent a fair amount of time caching in Atlanta last year and did several caches that were in that area that allowed me to see some beautiful sites. I say go for them, if the site is worth it. Quote Link to comment
+A & J Tooling Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I don't care for them if I have to go digging around headstones but if they're along the edge, then they're fine. I also like to look at the older places and admire some of the fine craftsmanship you see. Quote Link to comment
+larryc43230 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I'm not a fan of caches hidden in the middle of cemeteries, There are some notable exceptions in my general area. Greenlawn Cemetery here in Columbus, Ohio, is immense. There are woodlands and arboretums scattered throughout the cemetery, and they're ideal places for geocaches. The same applies to a wonderful cemetery I explored a few months ago, East View Cemetery in Cleveland. Tons of great history, and lots of woods with trails. Ferncliff Cemetery in Springfield, Ohio, has woods, and trails, and rock formations and several great caches. --Larry Quote Link to comment
+scottmcblane Posted January 30, 2012 Author Share Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) I'll be more specific. This is my cache (http://coord.info/GC2VPQM) and based on all the comments it seems to be ok. The only issue I can see is that it doesn't have approval from the cemetery/council etc. There has been a couple of logs along the lines of "so sad to see the baby memorials within sight" and this is where the whole topic came from. What are your thoughts? Edited January 30, 2012 by scottmcb Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Very disrespectful. I put them on my Ignore List. Quote Link to comment
+addisonbr Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 There is a historical cemetery in the yard of the church behind my office. The church folks put a cache out of their own on the grounds last year, and I have a puzzle cache which points people to a marker (the container for my cache isn't on the grounds, however). Quote Link to comment
+macatac1961 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I like them, but playing games on hallowed ground is about as disrespectful as you can get. I get a kick out of the cemetery cache owners that suggest we be respectful while looking for the cache they placed. Quote Link to comment
Hanni49er Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I lost my soulmate in 2006 and put in our church cemetary a small cache dedicated to him....he will live on now through my cache. Hanni49er Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I love geocaches in historic cemeteries as long as they are not placed on or next to graves. One of the best posts I've read on the subject came from Flask: back in the days before geocaching i used to hang out in a cemetery near a camp i went to in the summers. i noticed an interesting configuration of two families buried side-by-side in two different rows and wondered if there was a connection. so i made diagrams and took pictures and then i went to the town offices and spent time in the vaults. the clerk was very friendly and the camp counselors were amused. those people have been gone a long time, but if not for me playing among the graves nobody would be thinking of them. i learned everything i could about them: their birth and death dates, their land records, their enlistments, their birth and death certificates. i was able to trace their migration to my state, and the passage of their careers, the town's history, and the evidence of the epidemics that i knew about but hadn't given much thought to. cholera epidemic took every child a family had. young man died in a prison camp in virginia. family all gone. right on the headstones, it says "remember me as you pass by". who will remember if nobody passes by? recently i was at a cache at a place where a soldier was buried where he fell in the course of a long march during the 1812 war. his name is unknown. who visits him? geocachers, mostly. our old cemeteries are full of civil war dead; our state had the highest per capita casualties in that war. entire hill towns died out because the men never came home. some of the bodies were shipped home. few of those graves have visitors these days. at the end of my street there are both union and confederate dead; where i live it is unusual for there to be confederate dead. the mills are gone. the houses have been razed. the road has been thrown up. the trees have grown back. a geocache means people will come to see. they will get to stand on the steps of the old baptist church even though the steps are all that's left. one day i'll be buried up there. i hope you'll come visit. Quote Link to comment
+A & J Tooling Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 A couple of months ago, I visited a few caches that were in the cemetary that houses the homeless and abandoned. Many of those folks were Veterans that didn't know how to readjust to civilian life. Many were just people that didn't know how to fit in with the rest of us. If not for us, who else would visit these people and wonder about their stories? Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I think it's more disrespectful to set aside a large plot of land, cover it with grass that has to be mowed and fill it with fiberglass boxes that have more in common with a car body in regard to cost and construction than it is to visit a public place that was designed to be visited and enjoy your life while reflecting on the lives of people that have come before you. I don't know where folks get the idea that suddenly taking up geocaching will cause a normally sane and respectful person to act like a fool just because you have a GPSr in your hand. There was a time that picnics were held after church service in the middle of cemeteries- right over the grave sites. The families of the dead would gather over the graves of their relatives and celebrate life and community. Quote Link to comment
+Totem Clan Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I think it's more disrespectful to set aside a large plot of land, cover it with grass that has to be mowed and fill it with fiberglass boxes that have more in common with a car body in regard to cost and construction than it is to visit a public place that was designed to be visited and enjoy your life while reflecting on the lives of people that have come before you. I don't know where folks get the idea that suddenly taking up geocaching will cause a normally sane and respectful person to act like a fool just because you have a GPSr in your hand. There was a time that picnics were held after church service in the middle of cemeteries- right over the grave sites. The families of the dead would gather over the graves of their relatives and celebrate life and community. I used to have mixed fellings about this type of caches until I did this one. (this is my log BTW) Totem Clan Premium Member 600 Found it 11/15/2011 I was born and raised in Granite. I have been away for most of the last 25 years serving Uncle Sam. I came by here today to get this cache but also to visit my Mother's headstone. My Grandmother, Grandfather, 2 uncles, 2 aunts and my Mother all buried less than 50 feet from this cache. I'm not big on caches in cemeteries and didn't know how I would feel about this being so close to my family's plot, but this is a very well placed cache. Thank you for placing the cache is discreetly as did. BTW the log is damp and needs to be replaced. I didn't have my repair kit with me today or I would have replaced it. The tree this cache is in was planted by my Grandfather when bought the plot. He always said that when he and Grandma passed they could know those that came to visit would have a bit a shade to enjoy. Now I have no problem with them. I look forward more people visiting these kind of caches. I know my mother would love the idea of us enjoyinf some fresh air and a nice walk/drive and the visit. Quote Link to comment
+Obizuth Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 If I want to do a multicache, and I want to put the coordinates on my fathers grave, (not actually on it but on a lantern) for me it would be a way to make a lot of people visit him, but maybe it is too morbid for the general caching population? Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 If I want to do a multicache, and I want to put the coordinates on my fathers grave, (not actually on it but on a lantern) for me it would be a way to make a lot of people visit him, but maybe it is too morbid for the general caching population? Too morbid? This one has 12 favorite points. As I understand it, there is a compartment built into the headstone specifically to house the cache. Quote Link to comment
+OZ2CPU Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) I had to archive a church cache I made, the container was actually outside the church - on the other side of the parking, so people should walk tru the cemetary and see the special church, I was contacted after a while, via some cachers they where stopped on the site, they was told to contact me, to remove it, they did not like more geocaching in their area ! The cache was offcourse approved when it was released. So people can change thrir mind, after they see how geocachers behave on such locations. here the cache I talk about http://coord.info/GCYYDD Edited February 1, 2012 by OZ2CPU Quote Link to comment
+Brooklyn51 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I love cemeteries, so I love cemetery caches. +1 I did a cemetery cache last Sunday near an airport in St Paul, MN. Knowschad (yes, he's still alive) told me that I needed to go to the back of the cemetery for perhaps the coolest marker ever. We hiked back and sure enough that guy wasn't lying. It was an engine and prop from an old plane. I really wish I had my camera along for the trip. I'll probably be going back someday just for pictures. We have a picture of that! Very cool! Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I had to archive a church cache I made, the container was actually outside the church - on the other side of the parking, so people should walk tru the cemetary and see the special church, I was contacted after a while, via some cachers they where stopped on the site, they was told to contact me, to remove it, they did not like more geocaching in their area ! The cache was offcourse approved when it was released. So people can change thrir mind, after they see how geocachers behave on such locations. here the cache I talk about http://coord.info/GCYYDD That's a people problem, not a geocaching problem. Unfortunately, people geocache. Quote Link to comment
+TheLoneGrangers Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I think they're great. In my experience, the residents are always happy for the visit. How do you know, did they tell you? Quote Link to comment
+power69 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Please don't stuff a micro under one corner of someone's headstone. Ouch! with bronze markers being stolen for scrap i wouldn't want to be seen poking around an actual grave[my grandparents markers and vases were stolen] Quote Link to comment
+secretagentbill Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I found a cemetery cache just the other day. Near the center of the cemetery was an area separated off by a wall of bushes. There was a walkway that looped around the area and they had these cut-stone monuments built with little sculpted scenes depicting the "stations of the cross". There was a box with guide cards that described each station. There was a cache behind one the stations. So, I picked up a card and stopped at each station, looking at the pictures & taking photos before getting the cache. I'm not Catholic, but I could still respecfully admire the artwork and enjoy my quick visit. I thought that cache was in good taste. Some caches in cemeteries, though, are next to or near graves and can seem awkward. Quote Link to comment
+dakboy Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I think they're great. In my experience, the residents are always happy for the visit. How do you know, did they tell you? I've never heard them complain. Quote Link to comment
+dprovan Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I think they're great. In my experience, the residents are always happy for the visit. How do you know, did they tell you? Of course they told me. Why? Don't they talk to you? Quote Link to comment
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