+The_Incredibles_ Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 (edited) Here's a question for those who have had caches stolen: Is there a particular demographic that you suspect was responsible for the muggling? For 2 of my caches that were stolen, I'm 99% sure it was children. For the 3rd one, I suspect it was teens. 1st cache: Showed my daughter's friend the cache, she told all her friends at school, they all went to look, one boy took off with it 2nd cache: Performing maintenance on a cache, stopped by muggles who wondered what I was doing, I explained 'the game', they said they knew some teens that would be interested, shortly after, cache gone 3rd cache: Cacher was stopped by children while looking for cache, explained the 'game' to them, 2 days later cache gone Edited October 14, 2011 by The_Incredibles_ Quote Link to comment
+power69 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Here's a question for those who have had caches stolen: Is there a particular demographic that you suspect was responsible for the muggling? For 2 of my caches that were stolen, I'm 99% sure it was children. For the 3rd one, I suspect it was teens. 1st cache: Showed my daughter's friend the cache, she told all her friends at school, they all went to look, one boy took off with it 2nd cache: Performing maintenance on a cache, stopped by muggles who wondered what I was doing, I explained 'the game', they said they knew some teens that would be interested, shortly after, cache gone 3rd cache: Cacher was stopped by children while looking for cache, explained the 'game' to them, 2 days later cache gone 10-14 year old kids for fun[knock these out by making future caches PMO] tree hugger adult types[$10 to grab the pmo coords in their areas[no defense] trackable thieves[they steal the whole cache to steal a coin/TB] Quote Link to comment
+A & J Tooling Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 I've 'caught' kids stealing some I've been looking for twice so far. Quote Link to comment
+niraD Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 I haven't caught anyone stealing/vandalizing a cache. But in the cases I'm familiar with, I suspect that it was done by groups of adolescent boys. Quote Link to comment
+Ike 13 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 #IDon'tHaveFactsToBackThisUp but I bet the 8-16 age range. Quote Link to comment
+bflentje Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Why is age group important? Quote Link to comment
+keehotee Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Here's a question for those who have had caches stolen: Is there a particular demographic that you suspect was responsible for the muggling? Muggles! Quote Link to comment
+Ambient_Skater Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 It's probably all the teens who are tired of being stereotyped and accused of muggling caches all the time. Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 It's probably all the teens who are tired of being stereotyped and accused of muggling caches all the time. Yeah! And they woulda gotten away with it too if hadn't been for those darn accusations. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Senior citizens that have become bored with shuffleboard. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 It's probably all the teens who are tired of being stereotyped and accused of muggling caches all the time. I understand your feelings, being a teen yourself, but really... do you actually believe that most caches are muggled by adults? Quote Link to comment
cadavis0609 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I bet it could be knocked out by making it unbearably heavy for a kid to take, or a simple, "oh I'm just looking for my car keys, oh wait, here they are in my pocket, stupid me." Quote Link to comment
+popokiiti Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 It is people who don't understand, or even know what geocaching is all about, that steal caches. The youngsters/young adults stumble across them, or see cachers who aren't as stealthy as they would like to think they are. Spur of the moment, no evil meant. The stealers of caches that really tick me off are those that have the gall to sign up and pay for premium membership and plan to steal caches. These are usually adults on some sort of crusade, trying to impose their opinion on others. And they are the minority ......... However a cache disappears still leaves the CO with a feeling of frustration. We are very careful if muggles are around, sometimes won't search....we don't show the cache, even if we have seen it. We will explain geocaching though. Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 (edited) The stealers of caches that really tick me off are those that have the gall to sign up and pay for premium membership and plan to steal caches. These are usually adults on some sort of crusade, trying to impose their opinion on others. A similar (I hope small) group is the disillusioned veteran cacher “getting back at people” by taking it out on random TBs, coins, and caches. If you don't know who they are, you will. Right now I'm seeing some pretty deliberately disgusting activities by other “Geocachers” that do directly and indirectly affect Geocaching and my game, caches, and Travelers. Defended by yet others as “that's how they play, it doesn't affect you at all!”, which is also pretty disgusting (such apathy is the heart of problem). All I can say is, try to abide, rationalize, come to your happy place, anything except becoming one of those guys. And no messy Geocides over it. But do what you can to mitigate their damage. Edited October 15, 2011 by kunarion Quote Link to comment
4wheelin_fool Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 They are mostly 80 year olds who take the cache back to their car to sign in and forget where it's hidden, and what they were doing. Quote Link to comment
TorgtheViking Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I heard space aliens take these small capsules of human knowledge back to their home worlds to better understand us. Quote Link to comment
+taggdog Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I heard space aliens take these small capsules of human knowledge back to their home worlds to better understand us. I guess its better for us that they are abducting caches and not people. Quote Link to comment
+power69 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 It's probably all the teens who are tired of being stereotyped and accused of muggling caches all the time. I understand your feelings, being a teen yourself, but really... do you actually believe that most caches are muggled by adults? you'd be amazed at the number of adults with tupperware fetishes. Quote Link to comment
+The_Incredibles_ Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 It's probably all the teens who are tired of being stereotyped and accused of muggling caches all the time. I understand your feelings, being a teen yourself, but really... do you actually believe that most caches are muggled by adults? you'd be amazed at the number of adults with tupperware fetishes. Tupperware, lock n lock, those containers cost $$!! Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 It's probably all the teens who are tired of being stereotyped and accused of muggling caches all the time. I understand your feelings, being a teen yourself, but really... do you actually believe that most caches are muggled by adults? you'd be amazed at the number of adults with tupperware fetishes. There is a 12-step group for that. Shoot me a PM and I'll send you the meeting schedule. Quote Link to comment
+cycleangela Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 In central MD, there's a known cache thief. He is not a kid, but a young (25 to 35 y/o) adult who should know better, but he does supposedly have a kid that he takes with him when he steals the caches. Groundspeak has the pertinent info about him, but they still won't ban his multiple accounts. Quote Link to comment
+Penlowe Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 We have an in-ground pool in our back yard. When we bought the house with said pool, it wasn't a feature we were looking for, it just happened to come with the house we fell in love with. There wasn't enough fence to keep my then-very-young children safely out so we talked to our insurance agent about what would be best. As well as fencing information he told me to learn where the kids in the neighborhood were. Ten to fourteen year old boys are the number one victims of home pool drowning accidents, and most commonly not their own pool but a friends. Why? just old enough to know how to swim, old enough to go wandering their own neighborhood solo, old enough to have a large group of friends, very curious about the world; but also young enough to have no first aid knowledge, not enough common sense, very easily swayed by peer pressure and not enough knowledge to fix what they broke by accident (so they hide the broken item- often in the trash). If you want your cache muggle proof, find a ten year old to test it for you. Quote Link to comment
+The_Incredibles_ Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 If you want your cache muggle proof, find a ten year old to test it for you. Sadly, 2 of my caches that were stolen were hidden by my 10 year old. Also had a rope ladder that we left at a community park stolen. All I can say is I hope the rope breaks. Quote Link to comment
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