Jester1970 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Cards on the table, I HATE nanos. I mainly go geocaching now when I'm off hillwalking, simply because it's usually a decent sized container, with a proper log book and room for TBs which will be found. I've had a look round Glasgow and the majority of caches are bloody nanos. Can we not have an icon on the search results page showing cache size? Until then, I have, where space permits, renamed all my caches, adding cache size to the name. If you own proper caches, why not stand up and let people know. Rename your caches! Say NO to nanos! Quote Link to comment
+MBFace Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 (edited) Can we not have an icon on the search results page showing cache size? See here Edited September 24, 2011 by MBFace Quote Link to comment
+Legochugglers Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I agree, where clearly a larger container is just as suitable in the environment where the cache is found. However some of my favourite caches are nanos when used in the right way. They're certainly not big but in the right location and used wisely they can definately be clever. Quote Link to comment
Jester1970 Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Can we not have an icon on the search results page showing cache size? See here Cheers, my suggestion is now HERE Quote Link to comment
+The Blorenges Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Somebody clever could edit this song to "Ban a na no, ban a na no..." Start a protest march. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDlQm5jFL50 MrsB Quote Link to comment
+MBFace Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Not sure what you mean now - there is already a size icon in the D/T column on the search page. It doesn't help at present when some nanos are listed as micros and the rest as other. Quote Link to comment
+Legochugglers Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Not sure what you mean now - there is already a size icon in the D/T column on the search page. It doesn't help at present when some nanos are listed as micros and the rest as other. Begs the question when is a Nano not a Nano. Most people include a nano in the 'other' area although this can also be used for peculiar sized containers or where people just cant make up their mind. I have hidden a nano sized log/container in a hollowed out block of wood that is attached to a fence post. Is the size related to the larger container or the capsule with the log in it? Quote Link to comment
+Bear and Ragged Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Not sure what you mean now - there is already a size icon in the D/T column on the search page. It doesn't help at present when some nanos are listed as micros and the rest as other. A Nano IS a Micro. It states "film tub and smaller" in the guidelines. Micro - Less than 100ml. Examples: a 35 mm film canister or a tiny storage box typically containing only a logbook or a logsheet. A nano cache is a common sub-type of a micro cache that is less than 10ml and can only hold a small logsheet. Bring on the day GS instate the Nano size. (And how quick will cache setters change their cache size to 'Nano', and not leave it set to 'Other' 'Not Listed' or 'Micro' Quote Link to comment
+Matrix Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Well I like them as I like all types of container. I go caching for the walk I don't care what the container is or if its even there . Quote Link to comment
Jester1970 Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Not sure what you mean now - there is already a size icon in the D/T column on the search page. It doesn't help at present when some nanos are listed as micros and the rest as other. Nanos are being listed as micros, or indeed no size selected. Surely you should have to specify the size of the cache. Quote Link to comment
+MartyBartfast Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Surely you should have to specify the size of the cache. Sometimes, for example if it's a sneaky or camoflaged container then you don't want to publicise the size in case it gives too much away. Quote Link to comment
+drdick&vick Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 <quoted from Geocaching.com> treasure hunting game <quote> So if you have to a little thinking and searching then it's in the spirit of the game. Normaly if you read the description there will be some idea in there or in previous logs. Quote Link to comment
+thehoomer Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 (edited) Well I like them as I like all types of container. I go caching for the walk I don't care what the container is or if its even there . Wholeheartedly agree. Caching for us, is about the things you see, learn and experience along the way , or the vista when you get there. As we have no children in tow and do not 'do' trackables, the size of the container is of no consequence to us. I do however understand that some may feel differently as (I think) the original principal was to swap stuff and this isn't always possible when its a micro or smaller. Edited to add... I do care if its there though! Edited September 24, 2011 by thehoomer Quote Link to comment
+drsolly Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 For me, it's about the adventure and the hunt. I'm not too bothered if there's swaps or not. Although I can see that kids like swaps, I left school a long time ago. So I'm happy to do entire series of nanos, and even when I'm in a woodland where it's possible to hide a fridge, I'm still happy to hunt for a nano, provided it's not a needle in a haystack situation. But I'd certainly agree that there should be a size "nano", and possibly also "pico" (see Latimer Phone Box, where you could get three dozen caches of that size into a standard nano). I'm really surprised that the mighty brains of Groundspeak, capable of coming up with the "Kiss a frog" challenge, don't seem to give any priority to this category. Quote Link to comment
+Yorkie30 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 If people always hide the biggest container the location would take then this would certainly reduce the amount of micros and nanos out there. Nanos and Micros are fine when you can't hide anything bigger and I have found some very good ones over the years but also some poor ones. There are quite a lot of nanos hidden around my area which are cleverly hidden but been a rural area I would perfer more bigger caches. Quote Link to comment
+Croesgadwr Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) Meant as a lighthearted reply, and no offence intended, honest.... (says me dragging out me soapbox) I hate drive by's, I hate water, I hate hawthorn, I hate ivy, I hate cows, I hate mud, and I hate cow 'calling cards'(theres a difference), I hate hills (of the upward variety), I hate towns, I hate DNF's, I hate muggled caches. What do I like, I like early mornings, I like early evenings, I like the solitude, I like forests & woods & quarries, I like the peace & quiet of a 'lone cacher'. But...add any of my 'hates' to any of my 'likes' and the result will be a 'LIKE'. To me its all about enjoying the day, whatever it brings. Nano or large...whatever, no one MAKES me go look for for 'em. Is it not about the variety of cache that we search out. Nano to Large, ok with me. Memorable caches come in all sizes. How boring would it be if all caches were either 35mm containers or tupperware boxes?? To be honest my biggest hate is..... SATURATION, you know what I mean. Placing a cache "just 'cos you can". As I said, a lighthearted reply. Its your hobby, its my hobby....enjoy whatever floats your boat. Croesgadwr. North Wales Edited September 26, 2011 by Croesgadwr Quote Link to comment
+Ean369 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 YES same as croesgadwr said :D Quote Link to comment
+ratcliffe Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 There is nothing wrong with a nano cache, but I agree there should be a size category for cache setters to choose a nano size. I don't mind them in urban environs, but I know they can be annoying for many. Quote Link to comment
+Happy Humphrey Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 If you own proper caches, why not stand up and let people know. Rename your caches! Say NO to nanos! You omitted to explain WHY you hate nanos so much. Personally I'm not too keen on them because I find the log signing rather fiddly. Apart from that, as long as they have a suitable hint I don't mind them per se; but I'd rather find a nicely-hidden micro. Quote Link to comment
+Bear and Ragged Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 If you own proper caches, why not stand up and let people know. Rename your caches! Say NO to nanos! You omitted to explain WHY you hate nanos so much. Personally I'm not too keen on them because I find the log signing rather fiddly. Apart from that, as long as they have a suitable hint I don't mind them per se; but I'd rather find a nicely-hidden micro. I like 'em. I sign "WhataSupercalifragilisticexpialidociouscache. Thankseversomuchforthisone. Bear and Ragged." Followed by a Needs Maintenance log. Notice how I don't include letter spacing, in order to save space! Quote Link to comment
+Palujia Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I find the major problem with nanos is that - By the time you have managed to unwind the tiny strip of (quite often damp) paper THERE IS NO SPACE LEFT AT ALL TO TRY AND SIGN THE dadgum THING !!!and even if you manage to find somewhere to sign you have to try and wind it back up again - Although being fairly dumb I used to carefully wind up the strip and put it in the main body of the nano then try and screw the lid back on. A caching buddy then said - "why not wind it into the lid first then it will slip more easily into the body of the thing DOH ! And another thing !! All the "Off your trolly" caches seem to be magnetic micros placed on/in/round/under trolly corrals and you get very funny looks from people whilst you are lurking around (to plagarise a well known cacher's signature "That muggle looked at me funny" !!! Nanos are the spawn of the devil Although I have been given a few so I expect I shall have to put them out Quote Link to comment
+uktim Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Surely you should have to specify the size of the cache. Sometimes, for example if it's a sneaky or camoflaged container then you don't want to publicise the size in case it gives too much away. Maybe they should also be allowed to omit the difficulty rating to ensure that we don't know it's hard to find? If stating the size gives it away then it isn't very sneaky or very well camoflaged IMO and the hider needs to try harder if they want to make it difficult! Quote Link to comment
+ivanidea Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 How would you classify a nano in camouflage? Eg. a nano inside a snail shell, since you are now looking for a container larger than a nano. Quote Link to comment
+Fuchsiamagic Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 If you are going to log a nano, can I ask that just a bit of common sense is used. I did one the other day where some twerp had put his stamp on the log - using up about six spaces! Quote Link to comment
+Bear and Ragged Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 If you are going to log a nano, can I ask that just a bit of common sense is used. I did one the other day where some twerp had put his stamp on the log - using up about six spaces! If you hide a nano, as owner, you must expect to do more maintenance... Quote Link to comment
+Pharisee Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 How would you classify a nano in camouflage? Eg. a nano inside a snail shell, since you are now looking for a container larger than a nano. A Micro... as anything the size of a 35mm film can or smaller should be. Quote Link to comment
+The HERB5 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 If you are going to log a nano, can I ask that just a bit of common sense is used. I did one the other day where some twerp had put his stamp on the log - using up about six spaces! When nanos have a pen in them I'll stop using my stamp. Quote Link to comment
+eusty Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 A Micro... as anything the size of a 35mm film can or smaller should be. Technically you are correct. But it's better to list them as 'other', or put a description of the size in the listing, as changes the places you will look for them. IMHO anyway Quote Link to comment
+keehotee Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 A Micro... as anything the size of a 35mm film can or smaller should be. Technically you are correct. But it's better to list them as 'other', or put a description of the size in the listing, as changes the places you will look for them. IMHO anyway Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghh. Why? Why is it better to list them as "other"??? Surely the best option is to list them as Micro ('coz that's what they are at the moment) and put a description of the size in the listing? Quote Link to comment
+MartyBartfast Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Surely the best option is to list them as Micro ('coz that's what they are at the moment) and put a description of the size in the listing? +1 Quote Link to comment
+eusty Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I don't really mind either....it's just handy to know what size of cache you are looking for! Quote Link to comment
+The HERB5 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Surely the best option is for GS to add it as a size. They've agreed to do it, but it's been in the PLANNING stage for over a YEAR. They don't want to break 3rd Party Apps, the one's that were re-written to use the UNFINISHED API; also been waiting over a year. Go figure... Quote Link to comment
+Pharisee Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 ....it's just handy to know what size of cache you are looking for! It surely is... but listing a cache size as 'other' gives you absolutely no information at all. You can't filter nanos out if they're listed as 'other' because not all 'other' sized cache containers are nanos. At least if they're listed as 'micro', you can filter them out along with all the other micros. Quote Link to comment
+Lord & Lady Boogie Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Surely you should have to specify the size of the cache. Sometimes, for example if it's a sneaky or camoflaged container then you don't want to publicise the size in case it gives too much away. Maybe they should also be allowed to omit the difficulty rating to ensure that we don't know it's hard to find? If stating the size gives it away then it isn't very sneaky or very well camoflaged IMO and the hider needs to try harder if they want to make it difficult! The point being that sometimes the "hunt" is made harder if you do not add a size. The finder may assume a certain size and thus mislead themselves. It's a little like leaving out a hint, it's one less clue to narrow it down. Quote Link to comment
+Louis Lovers Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Well I like them as I like all types of container. I go caching for the walk I don't care what the container is or if its even there . Ditto. And there's some great nanos out there. Quote Link to comment
Jester1970 Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 If you own proper caches, why not stand up and let people know. Rename your caches! Say NO to nanos! You omitted to explain WHY you hate nanos so much. Personally I'm not too keen on them because I find the log signing rather fiddly. Apart from that, as long as they have a suitable hint I don't mind them per se; but I'd rather find a nicely-hidden micro. Someone else mentioned saturation, which is one reason. In the years b.n. (before nanos) you may have did a multicache, visiting locations, picking up clues to a final location. This has given way to a small magnetic pimple placed on (in some places) every pillar and post. Every statue, plaque and point of interest seems now to have it's magnetic buddy. In some cases it's the opposite. I've visited a few caches in terrible locations which are there simply because there isn't a cache around for 0.1miles. A street corner in Bishopbriggs and a dismal layby are two which spring to mind. I will confess to owning one nano, and it is key to finding a larger cache. I will pay more attention to the cache sizing icon in future, although if an area is saturated with caches I will avoid any descriptions of micro or other caches, as in likelihood they will be nanos. Quote Link to comment
Jester1970 Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 If you own proper caches, why not stand up and let people know. Rename your caches! Say NO to nanos! You omitted to explain WHY you hate nanos so much. Personally I'm not too keen on them because I find the log signing rather fiddly. Apart from that, as long as they have a suitable hint I don't mind them per se; but I'd rather find a nicely-hidden micro. I like 'em. I sign "WhataSupercalifragilisticexpialidociouscache. Thankseversomuchforthisone. Bear and Ragged." Followed by a Needs Maintenance log. Notice how I don't include letter spacing, in order to save space! Quote Link to comment
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