xKro Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 So I just now started finding Geocaches and I now want to start hiding them. I have some good ideas since I am tired of the "Lamp post, in bushes of parking lots. Same ol' stuff." So I was reading F.A.Q and looking at the guides. But there is no Yes or No on hiding spots. Are we allowed to hide them up in trees where you would have to climb to get them "Such as I put a bird house up in a tree." or can we hide them ancored in a creek? I take it light and cross walk post would be off limits since its often Muggle area and owned by government? Also can people hide them in like meters or sprinkler system lid stuff. "Does that fall under ask for permission?" Quote Link to comment
+HotDiggityDogs Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 There are certainly paddle caches that require using a boat to get to a cache that is anchored in the water. We have them in the lakes surrounding our area. I imagine a creek cache wouldn't be so different. They might require more maintenance than normal, if someone didn't put it back properly. I imagine using a real sprinkler or water meter would be a bad idea, but we've found a cache in a fake water meter - complete with meter that we had to lift up; on first look under the lid it looked like a real meter. Cache Advance store sells fake water sprinkler cache containers, as well as some other "tricky" containers for hiding caches in, so I'm sure there are sprinkler caches out there. If you did a cache that required climbing a tree, you might want to reflect that on the cache page, both in the terrain rating and a mention in the description, since it's not reachable by the average person. Not everyone is capable of climbing a tree. Happy cache hiding! Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I've seen caches in all those styles except the crosswalk sign. The electrical meters or sprinkler equipment work in very particular situations, best when cachers don't have to dig around in the real thing to find the cache. Quote Link to comment
blackhawkmac Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I have found caches in trees, in telephone booths, on river banks and I have even heard of one in vegas that is inside a casino on or in a fire extinguisher box, that's why I love the smalls, micros and nanos, you can put those things just about anywhere, sometimes you just have to get a little creative when you decide what to make your cache out of. Quote Link to comment
+Dgwphotos Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I have found caches in trees, in telephone booths, on river banks and I have even heard of one in vegas that is inside a casino on or in a fire extinguisher box, that's why I love the smalls, micros and nanos, you can put those things just about anywhere, sometimes you just have to get a little creative when you decide what to make your cache out of. What takes real skill is to take a regular and create a creative hide that will fool the muggles! Quote Link to comment
+Dgwphotos Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I recommend a look through the Cool Cache Container thread for ideas. Quote Link to comment
+Keelmann And Cici Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I have found caches in trees, in telephone booths, on river banks and I have even heard of one in vegas that is inside a casino on or in a fire extinguisher box, that's why I love the smalls, micros and nanos, you can put those things just about anywhere, sometimes you just have to get a little creative when you decide what to make your cache out of. Loved caching in Vegas. Still like the one in front of Bill's Gambling Hall the best. :-) Quote Link to comment
+mpilchfamily Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 So I just now started finding Geocaches and I now want to start hiding them. I have some good ideas since I am tired of the "Lamp post, in bushes of parking lots. Same ol' stuff." So I was reading F.A.Q and looking at the guides. But there is no Yes or No on hiding spots. Are we allowed to hide them up in trees where you would have to climb to get them "Such as I put a bird house up in a tree." or can we hide them ancored in a creek? I take it light and cross walk post would be off limits since its often Muggle area and owned by government? Also can people hide them in like meters or sprinkler system lid stuff. "Does that fall under ask for permission?" Read the guidelines again. There are spots that are not allowed and outlined by the guidelines. http://support.Groundspeak.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=306 If a person needs to climb a tree/cliff or dive/swim for a cache then so be it. But if any additional equipment is needed for the cache be sure its noted and the proper attribute is used. Also mark the terrain and difficulty appropriate to such a hide. Also remember to get land owner's approval for wherever you hid it. Public property isn't exactly public and is owned by someone or some group. Some states do have laws against caches being placed on any signs or other road safety equipment. So be aware of your local laws as the guidelines state. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) So I just now started finding Geocaches and I now want to start hiding them. I have some good ideas since I am tired of the "Lamp post, in bushes of parking lots. Same ol' stuff." So I was reading F.A.Q and looking at the guides. But there is no Yes or No on hiding spots. Are we allowed to hide them up in trees where you would have to climb to get them "Such as I put a bird house up in a tree." or can we hide them ancored in a creek? I take it light and cross walk post would be off limits since its often Muggle area and owned by government? Also can people hide them in like meters or sprinkler system lid stuff. "Does that fall under ask for permission?" You can certainly hide a cache anchored in a creek. With those you need to consider the fact that they may wash away during heavy rains. You can definitely place a cache in a tree. Some of my favorite finds involved climbing a tree. The geocaching legality of putting a birdhouse in a tree would depend on the method. Nailing it into a tree would be guideline violation (vandalism), but hanging it from a wire would be perfectly fine. If you were to hide your own fake sprinkler that might be OK (as long as you didn't dig to hide it), but existing sprinklers, meters and such are private property and would require permission from the property owner. All of this is covered in the guidelines for cache placement and you really need to read them (I mean REALLY read them, no skimming) before placing any cache. If in doubt contact your local reviewer and ask. I think it's great that you're thinking outside the lamp post and parking lot box. Go for it! Edited September 15, 2011 by briansnat Quote Link to comment
xKro Posted September 15, 2011 Author Share Posted September 15, 2011 I did read it. Maybe I didnt read the right section that says yes to climbing trees and yes to creeks? I cant wait to start hiding, me and my friends have some good ideas. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I did read it. Maybe I didnt read the right section that says yes to climbing trees and yes to creeks? I cant wait to start hiding, me and my friends have some good ideas. The guidelines are more a list of "nos". If they were to list all the possible yeses they would be 10 times longer than they are now. Quote Link to comment
xKro Posted September 15, 2011 Author Share Posted September 15, 2011 Okay, Well I was just thinking, heavy foot traffic into a tree may damage the tree over time, say as a creek with people trying to get into the creek it may slowly damage it. Quote Link to comment
xKro Posted September 16, 2011 Author Share Posted September 16, 2011 If your on your own property are you allowed to dig for a geocache? I just bought a coffin they use for halloween and I was wondering if it would be okay to put fake grass and a handle on the top and dig up my own property to place the geocache? Quote Link to comment
+ngrrfan Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 If your on your own property are you allowed to dig for a geocache? I just bought a coffin they use for halloween and I was wondering if it would be okay to put fake grass and a handle on the top and dig up my own property to place the geocache? No. Quote Link to comment
xKro Posted September 16, 2011 Author Share Posted September 16, 2011 It wouldnt require them to dig at all? Just to life the lid. Quote Link to comment
+popokiiti Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 We found a neat hide that looked as if it was a drain pipe for a metal box. The CO had glued parts together and propped it up against the box in the rear. Inside was a waterproof cache. Another neat hide had been placed with the permission (and help) of the structure owner and was hiding in plain sight. It was the size of a large ammo can too! One of my favourites.... Remember that no digging can be done to place a cache. Quote Link to comment
+niraD Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 It wouldnt require them to dig at all? Just to life the lid.According to the guidelines, you can't dig, whether to hide or to find the cache. With that said, I've found "below grade" caches. But as far as I could tell, they were placed in existing holes/depressions and no digging was done to hide them. Quote Link to comment
+Trucker Lee Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I am happy to see you are tiring of LPC and bush caches, too often these are used just to throw a cache into an area when a much better cache could be done with a little effort or time. For example, a short walk out of the rest area recently took me to a container that was 6x6x14 inches, nicely hidden but easily found and far more fun than an LPC along the parking lot. I have found caches in fake switch boxes (look at the structure, no electricity used inside) fake bird houses, and hollowed out limbs and logs. "In plain sight" caches can be particular fun, a bird house up a horizontal tree trunk comes to mind, and those caches where something that isn't right but doesn't attract attention. Be imaginative, be clever, and understand that there doesn't have to be a magnetic micro every 528 feet apart. Quote Link to comment
xKro Posted September 17, 2011 Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 Thats what I am going for, Right now I am working on a fake looking limb that I am going to attach to a real limb with zip ties. So from below it just looks like a normal limb unless you climb up and see its two. Quote Link to comment
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