robertlipe Posted September 15, 2002 Share Posted September 15, 2002 I use the 'mypop' facility to show new threads and replies to eliminate the number of times I need to re-pull a thread. (In all, I'd have to say that it works substantially less well than the average usenet reader from 15 years ago, but it's still less painful than 'show new since last login'.) However yesterday and today, mypop has shown no new traffic. 'Topics I'm watching' simply shows "no new posts or replies". I've deleted and resubscribed to my groups. I've logged out and in. I've deleted both cookies opentopic.Groundspeak.com dropped into my browser. I've checked three different web broswers. I've restarted all the different browsers. I'm out of sugar pill/magic bullet solutions. My gut tells me that if it was something globally broken there'd be an outcry but I've changed about everything I can think to change on my end with no success. Ideas? Link to comment
Norm DePlume Posted September 15, 2002 Share Posted September 15, 2002 quote:Originally posted by robertlipe:... yesterday and today, mypop has shown no new traffic. 'Topics I'm watching' simply shows "no new posts or replies"....My gut tells me that if it was something globally broken there'd be an outcry ... Identical lack of results here as well. Link to comment
+cachew nut Posted September 15, 2002 Share Posted September 15, 2002 Yep MyPop no longer works here as well. Link to comment
Elias Posted September 15, 2002 Share Posted September 15, 2002 I'll look into this, but I'm still getting notifications. I pop the whole Geocaching.com Discussion forum and I received each of these posts. -Elias Link to comment
+cachew nut Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 I changed my preferences to include a daily digest by email, just to see if that would work. This morning the digest was in my emailbox. However, from the discussion groups, there are still no new messages listed when I click on MyPop, even though I have subscriptions and there have been new posts. Link to comment
robertlipe Posted September 16, 2002 Author Share Posted September 16, 2002 To clarify, I do not use email notification. Elias, it sounds like you are using email notifcation. If you click on the MyPop link, do you see any entries under "Topics I'm watching"? Link to comment
Elias Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 I misunderstood the issue. This is happening to me as well. I'll work on getting this fixed. -Elias Link to comment
+MissJenn Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 I thought I was alone in this problem until I read this thread. Hmmm.... Thanks for looking into it, Elias. ----- You must be present to win. Link to comment
+cachew nut Posted September 18, 2002 Share Posted September 18, 2002 Still not working...in case anyone is interested Link to comment
+cachew nut Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 Has anybody been able to figure out when this will get fixed? Link to comment
Elias Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 I haven't forgotten about this. There is a ticket open with Infopop and they are actively researching this issue. I'll post a status update here as soon as I hear from them. -Elias Link to comment
Elias Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 Infopop has found and corrected this bug and it will be included in the next update of the software. I suspect the update will be deployed in the next couple of days. -Elias Link to comment
+MissJenn Posted September 20, 2002 Share Posted September 20, 2002 I now have results in my mypop.... Link to comment
robertlipe Posted September 20, 2002 Author Share Posted September 20, 2002 I can now confirm that it works as well as it ever did. Thanx, Elias. But I do wonder if I'm driving mypop optimally. My goal would be to see only things I haven't seen before. When there are 493 posts in a thread and a 494'th is added is there any way I can avoid seeing those first 493 again? After all, the server knows the last article that it sent me, it knows the timestamps of everything involved, and it keeps that information on the server so how can I set things so it quits showing me the initial traffic over and over? I do think this newfangled web stuff has a place and just might catch on, but I have yet to see a web "discussion forum" that I like as well as even the worst usenet news reader...[] Link to comment
robertlipe Posted September 20, 2002 Author Share Posted September 20, 2002 I can now confirm that it works as well as it ever did. Thanx, Elias. But I do wonder if I'm driving mypop optimally. My goal would be to see only things I haven't seen before. When there are 493 posts in a thread and a 494'th is added is there any way I can avoid seeing those first 493 again? After all, the server knows the last article that it sent me, it knows the timestamps of everything involved, and it keeps that information on the server so how can I set things so it quits showing me the initial traffic over and over? I do think this newfangled web stuff has a place and just might catch on, but I have yet to see a web "discussion forum" that I like as well as even the worst usenet news reader...[] Link to comment
+cachew nut Posted September 20, 2002 Share Posted September 20, 2002 Mine is working again as well. Thanks. One thing I did notice, my email digest contained messages older than when a particular thread was subscribed to. Perhaps it was just catching up. Link to comment
Elias Posted September 20, 2002 Share Posted September 20, 2002 quote:Originally posted by robertlipe:I can now confirm that it works as well as it ever did. Thanx, Elias. Excellent! quote:But I do wonder if I'm driving mypop optimally. My goal would be to see only things I haven't seen before. When there are 493 posts in a thread and a 494'th is added is there any way I can avoid seeing those first 493 again? After all, the server knows the last article that it sent me, it knows the timestamps of everything involved, and it keeps that information on the server so how can I set things so it quits showing me the initial traffic over and over? Unfortunately, I think you're using MyPop as optimally as it can be used. Its true that for users that also did immediate e-mail notifications (including replies) that they would be able to do what you want, but for people who don't want all the e-mails, this would be nearly impossible to implement. -Elias Link to comment
Elias Posted September 20, 2002 Share Posted September 20, 2002 quote:Originally posted by robertlipe:I can now confirm that it works as well as it ever did. Thanx, Elias. Excellent! quote:But I do wonder if I'm driving mypop optimally. My goal would be to see only things I haven't seen before. When there are 493 posts in a thread and a 494'th is added is there any way I can avoid seeing those first 493 again? After all, the server knows the last article that it sent me, it knows the timestamps of everything involved, and it keeps that information on the server so how can I set things so it quits showing me the initial traffic over and over? Unfortunately, I think you're using MyPop as optimally as it can be used. Its true that for users that also did immediate e-mail notifications (including replies) that they would be able to do what you want, but for people who don't want all the e-mails, this would be nearly impossible to implement. -Elias Link to comment
Elias Posted September 20, 2002 Share Posted September 20, 2002 quote:Originally posted by cachew nut:One thing I did notice, my email digest contained messages older than when a particular thread was subscribed to. Perhaps it was just catching up. Keep an eye on this and let me know if it keeps happening. I don't do any digests myself, so I haven't noticed this. -Elias Link to comment
robertlipe Posted September 20, 2002 Author Share Posted September 20, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Elias:[ Unfortunately, I think you're using MyPop as optimally as it can be used. Its true that for users that also did immediate e-mail notifications (including replies) that they would be able to do what you want, but for people who don't want all the e-mails, this would be nearly impossible to implement. -Elias As a programmer, I'm wondering if you left off "in infopop" from the end of that sentence. Certainly it's not impossible to implement the feature. The web site knows when we last viewed messages and we know that it knows becuase it has to get that information for mypop from somewhere. When displaying the messages, just start from that timestamp instead of the beginning of the thread. Poof. No more "page 1 of a 3 page thread" silliness. It could earn bonus points for optionally including older messages that were edited and such. Of course, there's a bunch of details like "leave thread unviewed" or "rewind" and I think I understand that you're a consumer of this infopop thing and not a developer. I just wanted to clarify that it IS possible to implement. rn, trn, tin, and nn were doing stuff like this in the 80's - it's not one of the harder problems to solve in computer science. Still, thanx for the hand. "Working as well as it is supposed to" is still better than it was earlier int he week. Link to comment
robertlipe Posted September 20, 2002 Author Share Posted September 20, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Elias:[ Unfortunately, I think you're using MyPop as optimally as it can be used. Its true that for users that also did immediate e-mail notifications (including replies) that they would be able to do what you want, but for people who don't want all the e-mails, this would be nearly impossible to implement. -Elias As a programmer, I'm wondering if you left off "in infopop" from the end of that sentence. Certainly it's not impossible to implement the feature. The web site knows when we last viewed messages and we know that it knows becuase it has to get that information for mypop from somewhere. When displaying the messages, just start from that timestamp instead of the beginning of the thread. Poof. No more "page 1 of a 3 page thread" silliness. It could earn bonus points for optionally including older messages that were edited and such. Of course, there's a bunch of details like "leave thread unviewed" or "rewind" and I think I understand that you're a consumer of this infopop thing and not a developer. I just wanted to clarify that it IS possible to implement. rn, trn, tin, and nn were doing stuff like this in the 80's - it's not one of the harder problems to solve in computer science. Still, thanx for the hand. "Working as well as it is supposed to" is still better than it was earlier int he week. Link to comment
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