Found benchmark but can't find its listing

[+Polgara]

I found a benchmark about 3 weeks ago that was a few miles north of Cold Foot. I wasn't trying to find it, I stepped on it while walking through the town of Wiseman, in Alaska. I tried to log it, but I can't even find it in the benchmark listings. I'm not sure how to even look it up, as the zip code for Wiseman and Cold Foot both route back to Fairbanks which is a few hundred miles south. I then looked up a cache in Cold Foot and used the "find nearby benchmarks" feature, but it only goes to 2 pages, and I did not see my benchmark listed on there. Anyone have any suggestions on how to figure out what disk this was? I do have a pic, none of the data on it refer to anything in the listings that I checked. The disk was in great shape, and it is stamped with US Dept of Interior Land Mgmt, so I'm sure its an actual disk.

 

Thanks for any input.

[+dspeer]

Try http://benchmarks.scaredycatfilms.com/AK.html and see if that helps.

 

Don't know whose tool it is, found it by accident, love it, love it, love it!

[+DukeOfURL01]

US Dept of Interior benchmarks are usually not listed. The best way to tell which one it is, if it's even listed at all, is to take the coordinates of the mark that you captured with your GPS at the time, and search by coordinates, and list those coordinates. Then whichever one is closest is usually the right one, but be sure to verify that it's right by looking at your picture and seeing if the markings match the description.

[+EdrickV]

If you have some info to go by to try and find it, you could try searching here:

http://www.Waymarking.com/

Site is run by Groundspeak so your Geocaching.com account info will work for logging in.

That said, it's still possible to find benchmarks that aren't listed there, and apparently it's possible to add new ones over there. (I found info for a benchmark I intend to visit using the site previously posted, which shouldn't be hard to find and should be in good condition, but which isn't listed on either site.)

[+Polgara]

Try http://benchmarks.scaredycatfilms.com/AK.html and see if that helps.

 

Don't know whose tool it is, found it by accident, love it, love it, love it!

 

Thanks for the link, that is an awesome map! Unfortunately, the disk is not listed. Oh well!

[+EdrickV]

Kind of curous what it looks like. I found some info on a search that talked about a USGS benchmark that was found but wasn't listed because most of the USGS benchmarks only have paper documentation. Maybe this is the same thing.

[+Polgara]

I don't know how to upload the pic in this reply, if you want to see it, I'd be happy to email you the image, send me your email through my profile.

[+EdrickV]

I don't know how to upload the pic in this reply, if you want to see it, I'd be happy to email you the image, send me your email through my profile.

 

To post an image here in the forum, the image would already have to be uploaded somewhere. (Say a log entry, Photobucket, Facebook, etc.)

[+EdrickV]

After seeing the image, I was able to figure out what it is. It is a Cadastral Survey marker, which is a form of property boundary marker. Don't know exactly how to interpret the C/L/S numbers, but they are probably used to indicate who the owners of the two pieces of property are. If you look at the lines in the center, they are showing a corner of one property with another property on the outside of it.

 

Given the lattitude/longitude, it might be possible to find more info about the properties here:

http://sdms.ak.blm.gov/isdms/imf.jsp?site=sdms

 

As far as logging it, Waymarking.com does have Cadastral Survey markers on it, so you could probably create a new entry for it there.

 

Edit: Oh, and it's not in the database here or on that site because it's not an NGS mark.

Edited September 1, 2011 by EdrickV

[+dspeer]

Found a Cadastral marker database / tool:

http://www.esg.montana.edu/gl/trs-data.html

 

You put in Township, Range, and Section values, and it will return interesting information if the item is in the database.

 

Oh, fudge, it only works for AR , AZ, CA, CO, ID, KS, MT, ND, NE, NM, NV, OK, OR, SD, UT, WA and WY; not AK.

 

Sorry...

Edited September 1, 2011 by dspeer

[+EdrickV]

Found a Cadastral marker database / tool:

http://www.esg.montana.edu/gl/trs-data.html

 

You put in Township, Range, and Section values, and it will return interesting information if the item is in the database.

 

Doesn't have Alaska though.

 

Edit: Heh, posted while it was being edited.

Edited September 1, 2011 by EdrickV

[+dspeer]

How about this one:

http://mapper.landrecords.info/

but, boy howdy, it requires some playing!

 

 

Or this one - someone may have provided this one earlier, and it also requires twiddling:

http://sdms.ak.blm.gov/isdms/imf.jsp?site=sdms

 

And some miscellaneous AK land records stuff:

http://www.landrecords.info/

 

Link to both maps:

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150306030407225.350731.505882224&l=3286b71e6f&type=1

[+Polgara]

After seeing the image, I was able to figure out what it is. It is a Cadastral Survey marker, which is a form of property boundary marker. Don't know exactly how to interpret the C/L/S numbers, but they are probably used to indicate who the owners of the two pieces of property are. If you look at the lines in the center, they are showing a corner of one property with another property on the outside of it.

 

Given the lattitude/longitude, it might be possible to find more info about the properties here:

http://sdms.ak.blm.gov/isdms/imf.jsp?site=sdms

 

As far as logging it, Waymarking.com does have Cadastral Survey markers on it, so you could probably create a new entry for it there.

 

Edit: Oh, and it's not in the database here or on that site because it's not an NGS mark.

 

Thx for the info. I know the one property owner that it probably pertains to. I'm not sure that I want to list it on Waymarking, as when I found the disk, I was there by invitation.

[Z15]

Normally property owners are not listed on survey marks, not to say it never been done but it would be unusual. Lines/marks on the survey disk indicate where the corner(s) are located along said lines. Find a map of the location/survey and they will correspond to the map. The Professional Surveyor/Firm may place their name/state professional registration number on survey marks along with property location identification.

Edited September 3, 2011 by Z15