+lawsontanner Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I've noticed that there is only one TB hotel around my area and even that is a long drive away, so I'm interested in creating my own TB hotel so that people can get rid of or pick up travel bugs. Are there any particular restrictions on this or is it frowned upon in any way? Quote Link to comment
+SeekerOfTheWay Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Make sure it will not get muggled! Quote Link to comment
+mpilchfamily Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Well there is is no TB hotel classification. Just place a regular to large cache is a convininet area that won't get muggled and call it a TB hotel. Nothing to it really and no guidelines to worry about except for the typical ones for placing a cache. As long as you don't place any restrictions on it like people must trade 1 for 1 then your fine. Quote Link to comment
Pup Patrol Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I've noticed that there is only one TB hotel around my area and even that is a long drive away, so I'm interested in creating my own TB hotel so that people can get rid of or pick up travel bugs. Are there any particular restrictions on this or is it frowned upon in any way? They are just caches with the name "tb hotel" stuck onto them. In addition to making sure it's not easily compromised, be aware that the "trading" rules for swag do not apply to travellers. You can't make demands that people must "take one, leave one" when it comes to travellers. It's not a good idea to put a tb hotel in some remote location that would be rarely visited. To have a cache that is useful for travellers, it needs to be of a decent size. Some of the travel bugs can be quite large. Just the tags alone preclude placing them in a lot of caches. Add a log book, some swag, other tb's and a small lock'n'lock can get full pretty quickly. I don't see the point in calling a cache a "tb hotel", though. If nothing else, it attracts the wrong kind of attention, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment
+Bear and Ragged Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 To have a cache that is useful for travelers, it needs to be of a decent size. Some of the travel bugs can be quite large. Just the tags alone preclude placing them in a lot of caches. Add a log book, some swag, other tb's and a small lock'n'lock can get full pretty quickly. I don't see the point in calling a cache a "tb hotel", though. If nothing else, it attracts the wrong kind of attention, in my opinion. Any cache can be used as a TB Hotel. It needs to be easy to get to, but not easy that it gets muggled. It needs to be on or near a route for cachers traveling to be able to get to it. (A road North/South or East/West, or better still crossroads!) Big enough to take TBs and maybe several at a time. NO restrictions such as 'Take One, Leave One' if it's occasionally empty, it's doing it's job! (Locals are always likely to use it, if they get a TB and find they can't get out to drop it off) I'm tempted to agree with 'don't mark it as a TB Hotel.' Quote Link to comment
+Walts Hunting Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Quickly available is a key element. I have run across some in my travels that were in remote locations and a few that were puzzle or militia which is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment
+ThePetersTrio Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Please make it a premium member's only cache. This provides an extra layer of safety for travelers. IMHO many TB hotels are magnets for coin/TB thieves. Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Please make it a premium member's only cache. This provides an extra layer of safety for travelers. IMHO many TB hotels are magnets for coin/TB thieves. Labeling it as a hotel is the problem. Just place a larger-sized cache in an easy but reasonable secure location and people will begin using it to place bugs. Example: North Cedar Roadside Park Quote Link to comment
Pup Patrol Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Please make it a premium member's only cache. This provides an extra layer of safety for travelers. No, it's not, and it takes travellers out of reach for Basic Members. I would hope that none of my trackables get put into PMO caches. People always forget that a big part of the problem is the plundering of caches by non-geocachers. Making it a PMO adds no security whatsoever, once the non-geocachers in the area learn of the cache's location. IMHO many TB hotels are magnets for coin/TB thieves. Calling them "hotels" is like ringing a bell, to anyone who can read the cache page and a Google map. Seeing a continual line of people heading to a particular spot arouses a lot of attention, depending on the location. Quote Link to comment
+ThePetersTrio Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) Please make it a premium member's only cache. This provides an extra layer of safety for travelers. No, it's not, and it takes travellers out of reach for Basic Members. I would hope that none of my trackables get put into PMO caches. People always forget that a big part of the problem is the plundering of caches by non-geocachers. Making it a PMO adds no security whatsoever, once the non-geocachers in the area learn of the cache's location. IMHO many TB hotels are magnets for coin/TB thieves. Calling them "hotels" is like ringing a bell, to anyone who can read the cache page and a Google map. Seeing a continual line of people heading to a particular spot arouses a lot of attention, depending on the location. We can agree to disagree then. I've never lost a coin from a PMO cache. I've lost several from "hotels". I stand by my post and have some numbers to back it up - at least for my little area of the globe. Edited July 28, 2011 by ThePetersTrio Quote Link to comment
+goosefraba1 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Please make it a premium member's only cache. This provides an extra layer of safety for travelers. No, it's not, and it takes travellers out of reach for Basic Members. I would hope that none of my trackables get put into PMO caches. People always forget that a big part of the problem is the plundering of caches by non-geocachers. Making it a PMO adds no security whatsoever, once the non-geocachers in the area learn of the cache's location. IMHO many TB hotels are magnets for coin/TB thieves. Calling them "hotels" is like ringing a bell, to anyone who can read the cache page and a Google map. Seeing a continual line of people heading to a particular spot arouses a lot of attention, depending on the location. We can agree to disagree then. I've never lost a coin from a PMO cache. I've lost several from "hotels". I stand by my post and have some numbers to back it up - at least for my little area of the globe. I would say that the largest threat to trackables is not muggles... but rather new cachers that pick up coins/tb without logging... and then retire from the sport soon there after. By creating a premium members only cache, I would say that much of this would be eliminated. I mean who is going to pay for premium membership and then quit after only 20 caches or so. Sure there will be the exceptions... but I think that a TB/coin is much safer in a PMO cache. On the other hand, by placing a PMO cache creates a dichotomy. The black and white being PMO caches containing trackables versus regular caches. The trackables were created as a means for ALL cachers to be able to see the trackable/ move it for you. By taking some of the cachers out of play as far as access to a hotel, this inherently changes the nature of the trackables. Personally, I enjoy having a nearby TB hotel... with easy access. There are no PMO tb hotels around here... but that might actually be a good idea to place. Quote Link to comment
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