+filbertv Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 How many caches will Montana 600,650,650t hold? Quote Link to comment
+PokerLuck Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I think it's the same as the 450, which is 5000 caches. Quote Link to comment
+Roofsters Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 As many as your memory card will hold. 5000 is the limit that can be downloaded using a pocket query per day. Quote Link to comment
+Cacheoholic Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 5000 as geocaches 4000 as waypoints Unlimited as POI’s (memory is the only limit) Quote Link to comment
+ecanderson Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 (edited) As many as your memory card will hold. 5000 is the limit that can be downloaded using a pocket query per day. Is this from personal experience? If so, it is the first Garmin handheld with no limit on cache count. All recent units use internal memory and copy relevant data from the *.gpx to that space, and internal memory is FINITE. Edited July 6, 2011 by ecanderson Quote Link to comment
+ryan3295 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 (edited) As many as your memory card will hold. 5000 is the limit that can be downloaded using a pocket query per day. Is this from personal experience? If so, it is the first Garmin handheld with no limit on cache count. All recent units use internal memory and copy relevant data from the *.gpx to that space, and internal memory is FINITE. While I haven't had time to play with this that much, I just loaded 5950 caches into my 62st and it gave an error that the maximum number of geocaches has been exceeded (as expected). Those same caches on my Montana gave no alarm, and as far as I can tell they are all there. So it may well be that the Montana series does not have the 5000 cache limit. Edited July 6, 2011 by ryan3295 Quote Link to comment
+dfx Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 While I haven't had time to play with this that much, I just loaded 5950 caches into my 62st and it gave an error that the maximum number of geocaches has been exceeded (as expected). Those same caches on my Montana gave no alarm, and as far as I can tell they are all there. So it may well be that the Montana series does not have the 5000 cache limit. Or the alarm is bork and it just doesn't tell you Try more than 10,000 maybe? Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 While I haven't had time to play with this that much, I just loaded 5950 caches into my 62st and it gave an error that the maximum number of geocaches has been exceeded (as expected). Those same caches on my Montana gave no alarm, and as far as I can tell they are all there. So it may well be that the Montana series does not have the 5000 cache limit. Or the alarm is bork and it just doesn't tell you I don't get an alarm for going over 2000 on my Oregon 300, but some caches don't get loaded - in no pattern I could discern. Quote Link to comment
+ryan3295 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 I have now loaded 10153 caches, with no alarm. In my random sampling the caches do appear to be there. The limit is certainly not 5000 caches. I wish garmin would just publish what the actual number is. Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I have now loaded 10153 caches, with no alarm. In my random sampling the caches do appear to be there. The limit is certainly not 5000 caches. I wish garmin would just publish what the actual number is. The only official word I can find is in this tweet 5000 caches - by Jake of Garmin, dated May 18th. I don't know if the Oregon x50 has an alarm when # of caches is exceeded, but the x00 apparently doesn't. Quote Link to comment
+ecanderson Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I have now loaded 10153 caches, with no alarm. In my random sampling the caches do appear to be there. The limit is certainly not 5000 caches. I wish garmin would just publish what the actual number is. What? And break with tradition? There's still no valid # in the "Specs" on their web site for the Oregons! Quote Link to comment
+dfx Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I don't know if the Oregon x50 has an alarm when # of caches is exceeded, but the x00 apparently doesn't. Got me curious there. Just tried to load 8300 caches on my 450 - no alarm. Quote Link to comment
+ecanderson Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I don't know if the Oregon x50 has an alarm when # of caches is exceeded, but the x00 apparently doesn't. Got me curious there. Just tried to load 8300 caches on my 450 - no alarm. Ditto - accidentally double loaded PQs once with two different names (screwed up and told GSAK to use a new name for the file while another was resident), and blew through the 5000 limit. When I disconnected and rebooted, I had the really long delay I always get with large PQ loads, but no warning that anything was amiss. Quote Link to comment
+ryan3295 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I don't know if the Oregon x50 has an alarm when # of caches is exceeded, but the x00 apparently doesn't. Got me curious there. Just tried to load 8300 caches on my 450 - no alarm. Ditto - accidentally double loaded PQs once with two different names (screwed up and told GSAK to use a new name for the file while another was resident), and blew through the 5000 limit. When I disconnected and rebooted, I had the really long delay I always get with large PQ loads, but no warning that anything was amiss. If the same cache is loaded multiple times in different PQs it will not count towards the limit. I just loaded "6000" caches into my 62st, with a gpx file from GSAK containing 5000 caches and then also reloaded the same PQ that was contained in the gpx file from GSAK, and received no alarm. I would be curious as to what happens if you load over 5000 distinct caches. Quote Link to comment
+ryan3295 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) While I haven't had time to play with this that much, I just loaded 5950 caches into my 62st and it gave an error that the maximum number of geocaches has been exceeded (as expected). Those same caches on my Montana gave no alarm, and as far as I can tell they are all there. So it may well be that the Montana series does not have the 5000 cache limit. Or the alarm is bork and it just doesn't tell you I don't get an alarm for going over 2000 on my Oregon 300, but some caches don't get loaded - in no pattern I could discern. Looking at the garmin support page, version 2.3 of the oregon x00 firmware added the following: "Added error message when the maximum number of geocaches is exceeded (2000)" "Added error message when the maximum number of gpx files is exceeded (200)" So it would appear that you should be covered if you load an excess number of caches or gpx file. But that was the second release of the firmware, so their is a good chance that it could be broken by now too. Edited July 7, 2011 by ryan3295 Quote Link to comment
+ecanderson Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 If the same cache is loaded multiple times in different PQs it will not count towards the limit. I just loaded "6000" caches into my 62st, with a gpx file from GSAK containing 5000 caches and then also reloaded the same PQ that was contained in the gpx file from GSAK, and received no alarm. I would be curious as to what happens if you load over 5000 distinct caches. It wasn't the same set of caches. It was supposed to be the same filename, though, and as it wasn't. The intent was to overwrite one entire set with an altogether different set (for vacation). Quote Link to comment
+ryan3295 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 If the same cache is loaded multiple times in different PQs it will not count towards the limit. I just loaded "6000" caches into my 62st, with a gpx file from GSAK containing 5000 caches and then also reloaded the same PQ that was contained in the gpx file from GSAK, and received no alarm. I would be curious as to what happens if you load over 5000 distinct caches. It wasn't the same set of caches. It was supposed to be the same filename, though, and as it wasn't. The intent was to overwrite one entire set with an altogether different set (for vacation). So do you get an alarm if you load more than 5000 caches in single gpx file? Quote Link to comment
+ecanderson Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 So do you get an alarm if you load more than 5000 caches in single gpx file? Don't know. Have never tried to pile that many in. I usually run about 4800 at a time. Quote Link to comment
+dfx Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 http://twitter.com/#!/Garmin/status/88969498287292416 Quote Link to comment
+CacheFreakTim Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Garmin has just announced that they have raised the geocache limit to 12,000 before the units shipped. Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Now I feel even more sore at myself for not getting one during the $425 sale from EMS... Quote Link to comment
+Bullygoat29 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Garmin has just announced that they have raised the geocache limit to 12,000 before the units shipped. That's three days of PQs!! Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Garmin has just announced that they have raised the geocache limit to 12,000 before the units shipped. That's three days of PQs!! I wonder how many total geocaches there are on that other site... Quote Link to comment
+Bullygoat29 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I wonder how many total geocaches there are on that other site... Trying to zoom out enough to get just the US, there's around 6700. I know a handful of them in my area are direct copies from here. Quote Link to comment
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