The most crime-ridden part of a city you have cached in?

1.7k · June 18, 2011

City caching is my favorite type of caching. However, many city locations are not crime free. The worst part of a city I have geocached in was Kensington, which is widely known for it's prostitution and drugs, which inevitably leaves to theft and sometimes murder's.

The whole place was completely beat down. However, I love the city and would go back anyday! I've geocached in other parts of cities that have drug addicts, petty theft, and homeless people, but that is unavoidable in even the nicest parts of every major city, usually in the tourist areas.

What's the worst part of a city you've geocached in?

June 18, 2011

I live in Korea. What's crime?

6.7k · June 18, 2011

I live in Korea. What's crime?

This is crime in S. Korea

Of course those stats do not include the rate of human trafficking in S. Korea.

Edited June 18, 2011 by TheAlabamaRambler

June 18, 2011

I live in Northern Utah. I think once someone got murdered like, I don't know... 6 years ago?

I'm pretty sure that absolute worst crime that has happened in the past year here is a DUI.

June 18, 2011

Can't say I know the answer to that one, Coldgears... However, I have done a bit of caching in the Waco, TX area, and there's a GIANT HOLE (I mean HUGE) on the map where no geocaches have been placed. And that's exactly the area where I wouldn't want to cache anyway.

1.7k · June 18, 2011

Can't say I know the answer to that one, Coldgears... However, I have done a bit of caching in the Waco, TX area, and there's a GIANT HOLE (I mean HUGE) on the map where no geocaches have been placed. And that's exactly the area where I wouldn't want to cache anyway.

With an average of about 1.4 murders a day in Philadelphia, most of the city is a giant hole...

1.2k · June 18, 2011

Oakland CA

June 18, 2011

Can't say I know the answer to that one, Coldgears... However, I have done a bit of caching in the Waco, TX area, and there's a GIANT HOLE (I mean HUGE) on the map where no geocaches have been placed. And that's exactly the area where I wouldn't want to cache anyway.

With an average of about 1.4 murders a day in Philadelphia, most of the city is a giant hole...

That's the way that we folks in Pittsburgh view it! :laughing:

I haven't done much city caching. I'll take poison ivy over poison dealers any day. I did have to find some caches near Bloomfield and the North side for a geocoin trail.

2.3k · June 19, 2011

How are we defining crime? We have an bad domestic violence rate in the little towns around here. We also have a plethora of drug crimes and of course the DWI/DUI's (rate is a little higher than average in the small towns here).

Are we talking violent crimes or what? Random acts of violence or where the victim knows the perp? No violence just drugs?

It all changes the crime stats depending on how you narrow it down.

1.7k · June 19, 2011

How are we defining crime? We have an bad domestic violence rate in the little towns around here. We also have a plethora of drug crimes and of course the DWI/DUI's (rate is a little higher than average in the small towns here).

Are we talking violent crimes or what? Random acts of violence or where the victim knows the perp? No violence just drugs?

It all changes the crime stats depending on how you narrow it down.

Random acts of violence. If all the crimes that happen in your town happen because you knew the person, then you wouldn't be in any danger geocaching there. Errm, unless you were on someone's bad side.

6.7k · June 19, 2011

I have cached in a lot of cities, nowhere that 'felt' particularly dangerous until a policeman approached me while hunting a cache in an obviously run-down area of western Atlanta. He was black, but told me that a white man was in no way safe in that neighborhood. He allowed me to find the cache then escorted me to the interstate to make sure I got out okay. :blink:

2.3k · June 19, 2011

How are we defining crime? We have an bad domestic violence rate in the little towns around here. We also have a plethora of drug crimes and of course the DWI/DUI's (rate is a little higher than average in the small towns here).

Are we talking violent crimes or what? Random acts of violence or where the victim knows the perp? No violence just drugs?

It all changes the crime stats depending on how you narrow it down.

Random acts of violence. If all the crimes that happen in your town happen because you knew the person, then you wouldn't be in any danger geocaching there. Errm, unless you were on someone's bad side.

Vast majority of crimes are crimes in which the victim knows the perpetrator, even in allegedly high crime areas. It's very rare to be a victim of a random act of violence.

1.7k · June 19, 2011

How are we defining crime? We have an bad domestic violence rate in the little towns around here. We also have a plethora of drug crimes and of course the DWI/DUI's (rate is a little higher than average in the small towns here).

Are we talking violent crimes or what? Random acts of violence or where the victim knows the perp? No violence just drugs?

It all changes the crime stats depending on how you narrow it down.

Random acts of violence. If all the crimes that happen in your town happen because you knew the person, then you wouldn't be in any danger geocaching there. Errm, unless you were on someone's bad side.

Vast majority of crimes are crimes in which the victim knows the perpetrator, even in allegedly high crime areas. It's very rare to be a victim of a random act of violence.

This is true, most of the killings in my area happen due to drug deals gone bad (Wouldn't pay up). However, there is a chance someone could hurt you should they rob you at gunpoint, this happens quite a bit.

10.2k · June 19, 2011

I would imagine a cache in Martin Luther King Park in Buffalo (placed by a Geo-Pal of mine as part or a series), or a couple caches in Plainfield, New Jersey. I'm a mean-looking 6 foot 200 Lb. guy with a Military brush cut, so I never felt threatened at any time. Caches are generally not placed in bad neighborhoods, and when they are, they're usually in Parks. I don't get where we're going with this. Are there LPC's in bad neighborhoods? :blink:

3.3k · June 19, 2011

I have indeed found a few caches in areas where I felt a bit unsafe, but I have never experienced a safety problem such as this while caching.

5k · June 19, 2011

Hollywood, Ca. Prostitution, drugs, homeless kids looking for trouble, drunks looking for trouble. Occasional strong arm robbery. It's not that glamorous once you get away from Hollywood Blvd and the Walk of Fame.

The truly dangerous parts of LA simply don't have caches in them.

1k · June 19, 2011

Well... we don't have crime here in Canada.

5.7k · June 19, 2011

Well... we don't have crime here in Canada.

Is it legal there? :unsure:

4.2k · June 19, 2011

Well... we don't have crime here in Canada.

really? you can't possibly be that naive...as much as i am a proud canadian and i consider us being at a low level of crime, compared to USA at least, i have to disagree with you, crime is present everywhere in the world...do you watch the news?...what exactly would you call what heppened in vancouver on june 15th?...ooh wait, that's just hockey, right?

Edited June 19, 2011 by t4e

7k · June 19, 2011

The worst part of a city I have geocached in was Kensington, which is widely known for it's prostitution and drugs, which inevitably leaves to theft and sometimes murder's.

And eventually inevitably to apostrophitis

Edited June 19, 2011 by dfx

June 19, 2011

Down by the river. Homeless having a bonfire.. I logged a DNF.

Shaun

5.7k · June 19, 2011

Down by the river. Homeless having a bonfire.. I logged a DNF.

Shaun

Being homeless is not a crime. :blink:

1k · June 19, 2011

what exactly would you call what heppened in vancouver on june 15th?...ooh wait, that's just hockey, right?

Excitement.

7.3k · June 19, 2011

Well... we don't have crime here in Canada.

really? you can't possibly be that naive...as much as i am a proud canadian and i consider us being at a low level of crime, compared to USA at least, i have to disagree with you, crime is present everywhere in the world...do you watch the news?...what exactly would you call what heppened in vancouver on june 15th?...ooh wait, that's just hockey, right?

I do believe young Mr Skater was being facetious/humourous. :rolleyes:

1.9k · June 19, 2011

City caching is my favorite type of caching. However, many city locations are not crime free. The worst part of a city I have geocached in was Kensington, which is widely known for it's prostitution and drugs, which inevitably leaves to theft and sometimes murder's.

The whole place was completely beat down. However, I love the city and would go back anyday! I've geocached in other parts of cities that have drug addicts, petty theft, and homeless people, but that is unavoidable in even the nicest parts of every major city, usually in the tourist areas.

What's the worst part of a city you've geocached in?

South phoenix around southern/baseline.

where every hide usually has a hypo/crack/meth pipe not far away.

6.5k · June 19, 2011

I don't keep track of those kinds of stats, but I'm sure during my travels I have wandered into and through parts of town I wouldn't normally visit unless I was following the arrow to a cache in a car full of cachers. And there have been times when I was alone and I decided that I wasn't comfortable getting out of my car in the neighborhood that the cache was located in.

I'll be sure to be extra careful if I am ever caching in Bensalem though.

9.3k · June 19, 2011

What's the worst part of a city you've geocached in?

I don't often find myself in cities, either caching or otherwise.

The smell of pigeon poop on concrete just holds no appeal for me.

6.7k · June 19, 2011

Down by the river. Homeless having a bonfire.. I logged a DNF.

Shaun

Being homeless is not a crime.

That's right, the homeless camps are full of upstanding citizens who don't drink, aren't strung out on drugs and never commit crimes. They just like the lifestyle. Go sit around the bonfire with them MPH, I am sure they'll let you leave with your wallet.

2.1k · June 19, 2011

How are we defining crime? We have an bad domestic violence rate in the little towns around here. We also have a plethora of drug crimes and of course the DWI/DUI's (rate is a little higher than average in the small towns here).

Are we talking violent crimes or what? Random acts of violence or where the victim knows the perp? No violence just drugs?

It all changes the crime stats depending on how you narrow it down.

Random acts of violence. If all the crimes that happen in your town happen because you knew the person, then you wouldn't be in any danger geocaching there. Errm, unless you were on someone's bad side.

Vast majority of crimes are crimes in which the victim knows the perpetrator, even in allegedly high crime areas. It's very rare to be a victim of a random act of violence.

This is true, most of the killings in my area happen due to drug deals gone bad (Wouldn't pay up). However, there is a chance someone could hurt you should they rob you at gunpoint, this happens quite a bit.

Usually you (general you being used here) know their dealer.

6.1k · June 19, 2011

There are many homeless people that drink and use drugs, but are not criminals. Most are humble, friendly and may have mental disorders but the majority are harmless. I wouldn't be afraid of them, but I wouldn't intrude on their living quarters either, simply out of courtesy.

June 19, 2011

Use drugs but are not criminals? I beg to differ. I do believe that having the drug on you, makes you a criminal.

Anyway, come on over to Flint where the weak are killed and eaten (I have a t-shirt that says that). I live in Flint, Michigan. That is between Saginaw and Detroit. Those 3 usually make it on the top ten per capita in the country for violent crime. So, I think I have cached in some bad areas.

2.2k · June 19, 2011

Flint, MI

1.4k · June 19, 2011

I live near Seattle, but I try to avoid that place as much as I can. Not because of the crime, but because the city tries to make it as unfriendly as possible to drive into there. The mayor is nuts, and the city council goes along with all the crazy things he comes up with.

I was born and raised there and it used to be one of the best cities in the country, but no more. At least for anyone wanting to visit for a day of sightseeing or Geocaching.

Like anyplace there are areas of high crime, but I would feel comfortable Geocaching almost anywhere, I just wouldn't feel welcome.

June 19, 2011

Flint, MI

Hey, what's wrong with my home town?

10.2k · June 19, 2011

Well... we don't have crime here in Canada.

really? you can't possibly be that naive...as much as i am a proud canadian and i consider us being at a low level of crime, compared to USA at least, i have to disagree with you, crime is present everywhere in the world...do you watch the news?...what exactly would you call what heppened in vancouver on june 15th?...ooh wait, that's just hockey, right?

I do believe young Mr Skater was being facetious/humourous.

He's a funny young man. And he actually posted updates on the riot on Twitter, where I follow him. Probably from the local news, I'm sure he wasn't a participant. :lol:

2.2k · June 19, 2011

Flint, MI

Hey, what's wrong with my home town?

the same thing that's wrong with mine.

i was born in Flint, went to school in swartz creek and now live in mt. morris. the auto city cachers are doing a heck of a job trying to keep caching going in genesee county. come to one of their meetings sometime. second tuesday of every month at the tim horton's on corunna and linden roads.

i still won't go into the city unless i'm packing and have a few people with me.

June 19, 2011

Flint, MI

Hey, what's wrong with my home town?

the same thing that's wrong with mine.

i was born in Flint, went to school in swartz creek and now live in mt. morris. the auto city cachers are doing a heck of a job trying to keep caching going in genesee county. come to one of their meetings sometime. second tuesday of every month at the tim horton's on corunna and linden roads.

i still won't go into the city unless i'm packing and have a few people with me.

I've hit up a few of your caches but since I live in Swartz Creek but work in Lansing, I can never get home in time to attend your meetings. I've wanted to come but they're too early for me to get there. When did you go to Swartz Creek? I graduated in 82.

10.2k · June 19, 2011

Flint definitely has a reputation, and I'm from NY and have heard it. A couple of layovers in Detroit, and a trip to Port Huron (approached through Canada from Sarnia) are the extent of my Michigan travels.

You know, this isn't such a bad thread after all. Now that I think of it, I had a bike trail cache in Buffalo, NY. (Archived probably 4 years ago). There are far worse neighborhoods in the City, but I'd rate this one in the lower half of all the neighborhoods. And I did once receive a log from a lone female cacher who expressed concerns about going after that cache. Back before people wrote more than "TFTC" in their logs. (Sorry, had to get a dig in there). So yes, this whole neighborhood thing can be an issue with people.

Edited June 19, 2011 by Mr.Yuck

1.7k · June 19, 2011

I've geocached in Camden, which was named the most dangerous city in the country in 2004, 2005, 2009. Of course, I geocached in the waterfront, which aside from a few homeless people sleeping there is very safe.

2.2k · June 19, 2011

Flint, MI

Hey, what's wrong with my home town?

the same thing that's wrong with mine.

i was born in Flint, went to school in swartz creek and now live in mt. morris. the auto city cachers are doing a heck of a job trying to keep caching going in genesee county. come to one of their meetings sometime. second tuesday of every month at the tim horton's on corunna and linden roads.

i still won't go into the city unless i'm packing and have a few people with me.

I've hit up a few of your caches but since I live in Swartz Creek but work in Lansing, I can never get home in time to attend your meetings. I've wanted to come but they're too early for me to get there. When did you go to Swartz Creek? I graduated in 82.

1974. Edited June 19, 2011 by uperdooper

June 19, 2011

Eastern Los Angeles. I'm NOT a city guy, I prefer the suburbs and woodsy areas.

June 19, 2011

I live near Seattle, but I try to avoid that place as much as I can. Not because of the crime, but because the city tries to make it as unfriendly as possible to drive into there. The mayor is nuts, and the city council goes along with all the crazy things he comes up with.

I was born and raised there and it used to be one of the best cities in the country, but no more. At least for anyone wanting to visit for a day of sightseeing or Geocaching.

Like anyplace there are areas of high crime, but I would feel comfortable Geocaching almost anywhere, I just wouldn't feel welcome.

Hi, neighbor. I live in the suburbs, and prefer the eastide than the west side of the lake. Bellevue (about 10 miles east of seattle) was rated the 4th safest and best place to live in the USA in 2010.

10.1k · June 19, 2011

Crime-ridden? Hmm... We've decided to avoid most of Newark, NJ. (Though Branch Brook park can be nice.) I don't think there are any caches in Irvington, NJ, or Bed-Stuy, NY. We've cached in many strange parts of NYC. A local NYC cacher called us fearless. (Maybe stupid is a better word?) The only time I've ever actually been worried was one (of many we've found) in Washington Heights. When we got back from finding the cache, there was a car parked suspiciously, next to the cache-mobile. That had us worried.

Found one recently on Jerome Avenue in the South Bronx. (Near where my uncle raised his family.) Not the nicest area, but gave us no concern. There are a few between Harlem and Washington Heights that we have no intention of searching for.

We have decided that we need to be more concerned about where we go geocaching.

1k · June 20, 2011

Being homeless is not a crime.

That's right, the homeless camps are full of upstanding citizens who don't drink, aren't strung out on drugs and never commit crimes. They just like the lifestyle. Go sit around the bonfire with them MPH, I am sure they'll let you leave with your wallet.

Do you even know what you're talking about? Just because many homeless individuals happen to use drugs and aren't our favorite members of society doesn't make being homeless illegal.

really? you can't possibly be that naive...as much as i am a proud canadian and i consider us being at a low level of crime, compared to USA at least, i have to disagree with you, crime is present everywhere in the world...do you watch the news?...what exactly would you call what heppened in vancouver on june 15th?...ooh wait, that's just hockey, right?

I do believe young Mr Skater was being facetious/humourous.

Yes, I was.

And he actually posted updates on the riot on Twitter, where I follow him. Probably from the local news, I'm sure he wasn't a participant.

And from the scanner. There were a handful of followers who thought I was there (one of them who asked me to pick up some sunglasses for them at the Bay during the looting) and I've been playing along.

Edited June 20, 2011 by Ambient_Skater

June 20, 2011

I looked at all of the caches in my county (Orange) and Los Angeles County and noticed a huge hole in the more crime ridden areas. If you look at the map, you will see that Santa Ana and Stanton (in Orange County) and certain parts of LA County (El Monte, Compton, East LA, Huntington Park all the way south to Wilmington) have very few caches. Most of the really bad areas around don't have any, so I can't say that I have gone searching in any bad areas yet. Although, I have just started out too. The west side of my city doesn't have very many caches, except in some of the parks (aka daytime homeless hotels). I haven't been to any of those yet, but plan to soon. Those will probably be th most dangerous until I decide to search for some bordering Santa Ana.

19k · June 20, 2011

Down by the river. Homeless having a bonfire.. I logged a DNF.

Shaun

Being homeless is not a crime.

Actually, it is. Or at least, it is in many places. Generally though, it is called vagrancy.

38.2k · June 20, 2011

I have a virtual cache in an area of Paterson NJ that is considered a high crime area.

Definitely not someplace where you'd want to leave your laptop on the car seat, nor was it an area that I'd want to go at night. At least that was the neighborhood when I hid it.

The National Park Service has since taken over the area. Hopefully that will increase the police presence.

The most crime-ridden part of a city you have cached in?

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