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Geocaching is not the place for religious material of any kind. When I find cards or tracts in a cache I remove them and trash them. We are not supposed to promote a business with a cache. I think we do not need to be promoting religion in a cache. How would you feel if you opened a cache and found it full of muslum tracts, or buddhist, or hindu, or jewish. It just isn't appropriate here. Keep your religion to yourself and I will keep mine to me. I doubt that anyone will go to Jesus because he found a tract in a cache. It serves no purpose but to offend

 

Actually, it only offends those that have no religion. Most true religions are based on kindness, compassion, understanding and acceptance.

 

I find people with a predisposition to being offended are most often offended and readily so. The key to getting along with other points of view is tolerance.

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Geocaching is not the place for religious material of any kind.
Says who?

 

There are guidelines against caches that solicit or promote agendas, but those guidelines don't apply to trade items, trackables, or other items in caches.

 

When I find cards or tracts in a cache I remove them and trash them. We are not supposed to promote a business with a cache.
Do you also remove trade items or trackables that have business names on them? charity names on them? other organization names on them?

 

I think we do not need to be promoting religion in a cache.
Do you really think the cache being discussed in this thread is promoting any of the beliefs represented by the tracts/brochures in it?
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Duderonomy

 

BOOK 1

 

1. Thou shalt always use fresh creamer when preparing the sacramental beverage. To ensure its freshness, it must be sniffed and even sampled before purchase. If it is unclean, put it back.

 

2. Ideally half-and-half shall be used in preparing the sacramental beverage. Failing this, milk, and under the most dire of circumstances, non-dairy creamer.

 

3. Always write checks whenever possible, as your cash is limited and you never know when you might have to pay off roving bands of heathen Nihilists.

 

4. When confronted by vicious thugs demanding money, give them it. If you don't have it, employ humor to lighten the situation. Do not under any circumstances try to fight back by hurling a bowling ball at them.

 

5. When discussing a matter of grave importance, or even of trifling idiocy, always make sure to employ expletives as much as possible to prove your heartfelt honesty and conviction. To ensure your dudeness, all out-of-control, manic discussions should be followed with entreaties to "just take it easy, man."

 

6. If an adversary is clearly too uptight to see things from your perspective, don your sunglasses and intone "To heck with it." Then take something of fair value from his house as you depart.

 

7. Employ comfortable furnishings in your home such as reclining chairs, scented candles, Persian rugs and fanciful mini-bars with ironic posters of former adversaries. Your house is your temple and your temple should be well tied-together.

 

8. Always honor your landlord. Do your best to pay the rent on time. Failing that, indulge his artistic ambitions regardless of how utterly misguided they might be.

 

9. Never have an outward-opening door on your house.

 

10. When confronted by a large man with a gun who demands you mark it zero, oblige him. Otherwise you risk entering a world of pain. Ideally he will get his comeuppance from the League for contravening a number of its bylaws.

 

BOOK 2

 

1. Never trust wealthy, successful people you hardly know who want to employ you to engage in shady undertakings.

 

2. Money is the root of all evil. It's also the root of all good stories, so hooray for money.

 

3. A plan referred to as foolproof is often proved foolish.

 

4. If you tell Donny to shut the heck up too many times, he'll shut the heck up forever; cut your friends some slack. A eulogy is not the place to apologize.

 

5. Respect everyone's point of view. It's just, like, their opinion, man.

 

6. Always remember interesting turns of phrase that you hear so that you can employ them in completely unrelated situations later and convincingly sound as if you know what you're talking about.

 

7. The ringer can't look empty.

 

8. Make sure to always use the proper form of the pronoun. No one uses the editorial or royal "we" in everyday exchange unless they're trying to hide something.

 

9. Never park in a handicapped space if you've got a million dollars in your car. In fact, never leave a million dollars in your car, especially if your car is in lousy condition.

 

10. If a doctor is referred to as "thorough," harbor some reservations about visiting him. Unless of course you enjoy that sort of thing.

 

11. When confronted by unfortunate circumstances, forget about it. You can't be worrying about that carp. Life goes on.

 

12. Always protect your sacramental beverage, even in times of severe duress.

 

13. Whenever possible, try to get paid in cash in order to avoid getting bumped up into a higher tax bracket.

 

BOOK 3

 

1. Freedom is great. Many young men have died face-down in the muck to protect our freedoms. Nevertheless, one should still be courteous and keep their voice down in a family restaurant.

 

2. Unless you're a high-ranking member of society, don't expect too much from the police.

 

3. Sometimes not having an ethos is an ethos in itself. Usually it's a bad one, though.

 

4. Never go into a tournament with a negative attitude.

 

5. Try not to use so many cuss words. Unless they're near and dear to your heart, in which case...

 

6. Make sure the window of your car is rolled down before ejecting a burning object. You probably shouldn't drink beer and drive either, even though it might come in useful to extinguish the burning object.

 

7. When strange men show up at your house accusing you of a crime and brandishing evidence at you, it is best that you feign mental illness and don't say peep.

 

8. What happens when one is unjust to a stranger is not always what one might think will happen, nor what is necessarily fair or just to any of the concerned parties.

 

9. Never trust a known creep to whom any sizeable sum of money is owed.

 

10. Never trust a cab driver who enjoys listening to the Eagles.

 

BOOK 4

 

1. If you are a man of modest means and charisma and a rich, beautiful woman wants to get romantic with you, don't question her motives until after the act is over.

 

2. Avoid living in the past, even if memories can be beautiful and remind you of a time you once enjoyed.

 

3. Though the man in the black pajamas might be a worthy adversary, you should avoid him whenever possible. Especially if he's easily avoided. Choose instead to cling to the tree of life.

 

4. Just because you're bereaved doesn't make you a sap. Keep your wits about you, even when you're bummed out.

 

5. Take 'er easy for all the sinners of the world, dude. Abide. And amen.

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Soo...

 

Summer happened. It's the busy time for my job. Add to that the new responsibilities I've had since my wife and I became foster parents, and this cache took a bit of a back burner position.

 

The cache is out, the writeup coplete, and I'm told it's in queue to be published in the morning. Thanks to NHPride, my local reviewer, and all the other reviewers who took a look at it!

 

The Ultimate Tract Cache

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Soo...

 

Summer happened. It's the busy time for my job. Add to that the new responsibilities I've had since my wife and I became foster parents, and this cache took a bit of a back burner position.

 

The cache is out, the writeup coplete, and I'm told it's in queue to be published in the morning. Thanks to NHPride, my local reviewer, and all the other reviewers who took a look at it!

 

The Ultimate Tract Cache

As a Devout Agnostic and collector of Chick tracts that my car (sporting a Darwin fish) seems to attract, I would love a cache like that especially later in the year when the bug population is down and the weather is cooler so I could spend some time there.

 

BTW- Where the heck was I when this thread got started? Looks like this is its third time around and I just now found it.

 

IMO-Anyone that would be offended by this cache isn't secure in their own beliefs.

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Soo...

 

Summer happened. It's the busy time for my job. Add to that the new responsibilities I've had since my wife and I became foster parents, and this cache took a bit of a back burner position.

 

The cache is out, the writeup coplete, and I'm told it's in queue to be published in the morning. Thanks to NHPride, my local reviewer, and all the other reviewers who took a look at it!

 

The Ultimate Tract Cache

As a Devout Agnostic and collector of Chick tracts that my car (sporting a Darwin fish) seems to attract, I would love a cache like that especially later in the year when the bug population is down and the weather is cooler so I could spend some time there.

 

BTW- Where the heck was I when this thread got started? Looks like this is its third time around and I just now found it.

 

IMO-Anyone that would be offended by this cache isn't secure in their own beliefs.

I'll trade you some GOOHF cards for some Chick Tracts. :ph34r:
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Soo...

 

Summer happened. It's the busy time for my job. Add to that the new responsibilities I've had since my wife and I became foster parents, and this cache took a bit of a back burner position.

 

The cache is out, the writeup coplete, and I'm told it's in queue to be published in the morning. Thanks to NHPride, my local reviewer, and all the other reviewers who took a look at it!

 

The Ultimate Tract Cache

Wow. I really like how you got that cache published. Alot of work but you did it! That what count. It shows other that this can be done if you work with the reviewers.

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So, Another Update:

 

The cache disappeared!

 

I found the timing interesting. The cache basically sat in place all summer waiting for me to list it, and it remained there, unmolested. It then disappeared within 2 weeks of publication! Muggle, or as someone suggested to me, Rogue Cache Police removing what they didn't like?

 

Well, I put out a new container, made the cache a PMO cache so that I can watch the Audit Log, and am prepared for it to disappear again. Next time, I move it to a new location. If it goes AGAIN, I can be pretty sure it was another cacher... <_<

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So, Another Update:

 

The cache disappeared!

 

I found the timing interesting. The cache basically sat in place all summer waiting for me to list it, and it remained there, unmolested. It then disappeared within 2 weeks of publication! Muggle, or as someone suggested to me, Rogue Cache Police removing what they didn't like?

 

Well, I put out a new container, made the cache a PMO cache so that I can watch the Audit Log, and am prepared for it to disappear again. Next time, I move it to a new location. If it goes AGAIN, I can be pretty sure it was another cacher... <_<

 

Not so fast, the Audit Log is really a joke. Its like a bird with wings but cant fly. If you assume that someone took it because of what you see on the Audit Log, you are opening yourself to lawsuits.(I assume this is one reason that Groundspeak wont take part of taking actions base on Audit Logs) There are other ways to look at PMO caches without going to the cache page. There is NO proof unless you catch them redhand.

 

Next time, use a cable or chain. If they cut it, its someone that want the ammo can or got beef against you.

 

Once cachers are hunting for a cache around GZ, muggles in the area take notice and will check the area out once the cacher leave. I think this is the main reason of why caches are disappearing. Someone is always watching. I find it scary when I am out caching.

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Not so fast, the Audit Log is really a joke. Its like a bird with wings but cant fly. If you assume that someone took it because of what you see on the Audit Log, you are opening yourself to lawsuits.(I assume this is one reason that Groundspeak wont take part of taking actions base on Audit Logs) There are other ways to look at PMO caches without going to the cache page. There is NO proof unless you catch them redhand.
Shhh.... :ph34r:

 

I may have misstated a bit my reason for wanting the Audit Log. I want the perception that the page is being watched. Anyone who frequents the forums knows that dirty little secret, I'm just hoping any potential cache pirates might not read the forums often enough...

 

That said, this is my first PMO cache, it is pretty cool to see the activity on the cache page already, even if it is just forum denizens...

 

Speaking of this, I wish we could see who has the cache on their watchlist!

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