+TheChamp Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 I looked up the Earthcache GC20ETR, Colossal Head 4, which shows that it is archived. The account of cache owner, Cav Scout, is "locked". What does that mean? Thanks everyone.
+Castle Mischief Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 (edited) (Those of you playing along at home... drink.) Edited May 27, 2011 by Castle Mischief
Pup Patrol Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Unfortunately, you can't do a search for thread topics that have been locked. (Which is what is probably going to happen to this thread.) You could do a perusal of the threads in the Earthcaching forums, though. (Those of you playing along at home... drink.) *coffee's ready...* ibtl
mresoteric Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 I looked up the Earthcache GC20ETR, Colossal Head 4, which shows that it is archived. The account of cache owner, Cav Scout, is "locked". What does that mean? Thanks everyone. It means he kept deleting find logs he didn't like.
+Sioneva Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Unfortunately, you can't do a search for thread topics that have been locked. (Which is what is probably going to happen to this thread.) You could do a perusal of the threads in the Earthcaching forums, though. (Those of you playing along at home... drink.) *coffee's ready...* ibtl Spike it with cream liquor and take a big swallow!
+StarBrand Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 It means that the account was used in a manner inconsistent with the guidelines and spirit of Geocaching.
+SwineFlew Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Why this so so account keep coming up? Yes, make my coffee black please.
+Ecylram Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 I looked up the Earthcache GC20ETR, Colossal Head 4, which shows that it is archived. The account of cache owner, Cav Scout, is "locked". What does that mean? Thanks everyone. Every couple of months somebody posts that question. According to a post the CO posted on another board, the last time he was 'locked' (wasn't the first time) was for repeatedly deleting valid find logs. Caches are archived because the CO is unable to provide maintenance with his account being locked.
Pup Patrol Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 (edited) I looked up the Earthcache GC20ETR, Colossal Head 4, which shows that it is archived. The account of cache owner, Cav Scout, is "locked". What does that mean? Thanks everyone. Earthcache forums, page 2: http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=264924 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=264986 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=264985 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=265020 Edited May 27, 2011 by Pup Patrol
+t4e Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Unfortunately, you can't do a search for thread topics that have been locked. sure you can
jholly Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 I looked up the Earthcache GC20ETR, Colossal Head 4, which shows that it is archived. The account of cache owner, Cav Scout, is "locked". What does that mean? Thanks everyone. Every couple of months somebody posts that question. According to a post the CO posted on another board, the last time he was 'locked' (wasn't the first time) was for repeatedly deleting valid find logs. Caches are archived because the CO is unable to provide maintenance with his account being locked. And if you read his account of the matter, he was doing fine 10 months into his year long ban and looking forward to being off the ban. Then one morning Miss Jenn took a look at her todo list and found at the top the task of permanently banning Cav Scout and archiving his caches. I don't think we will ever get to page 4.
mresoteric Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 And if you read his account of the matter, he was doing fine 10 months into his year long ban and looking forward to being off the ban. Then one morning Miss Jenn took a look at her todo list and found at the top the task of permanently banning Cav Scout and archiving his caches. I don't think we will ever get to page 4. Why would they suddenly change a year ban into a permanent ban? That doesn't make sense unless he did something else during that time.
+dfx Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Why would they suddenly change a year ban into a permanent ban? That doesn't make sense unless he did something else during that time. That's what everybody has been wondering and it never has been answered. All related threads have been locked, and this one will probablty get locked also.
Pup Patrol Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Unfortunately, you can't do a search for thread topics that have been locked. sure you can Oops, yes, you can...if you type the username properly. D'oh. Sorry about that.
+Ecylram Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Why would they suddenly change a year ban into a permanent ban? That doesn't make sense unless he did something else during that time. That's what everybody has been wondering and it never has been answered. His statements elsewhere indicated that when he was reinstated he would go back to the same behavior as before (regarding the deletion of found records). I would imagine that with him choosing not to change and Groundspeak not changing their rules to accommodate him it was best just to stop the cycle for good.
+hydnsek Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 And if you read his account of the matter, he was doing fine 10 months into his year long ban and looking forward to being off the ban. Then one morning Miss Jenn took a look at her todo list and found at the top the task of permanently banning Cav Scout and archiving his caches. I don't think we will ever get to page 4. Why would they suddenly change a year ban into a permanent ban? That doesn't make sense unless he did something else during that time. Correct.
+Castle Mischief Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Why would they suddenly change a year ban into a permanent ban? That doesn't make sense unless he did something else during that time. That's what everybody has been wondering and it never has been answered. All related threads have been locked, and this one will probablty get locked also. If I had been locked I certainly wouldn't want a Lackey discussing the details with the general forum. It's a matter of good policy. I wouldn't hold my breath for the telling of the whole story and frankly I'm willing to give Groundspeak the benefit of the doubt on this one.
+Castle Mischief Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 *coffee's ready...* I hope you're referring to what I hope you're referring to.
+joranda Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 He got a bum deal if you ask me. Everyone thinks they know the story but they haven't gotten a clue. Moral of the story is that you are not allowed to maintain your caches the way that you set them up.
knowschad Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 He got a bum deal if you ask me. Everyone thinks they know the story but they haven't gotten a clue. Moral of the story is that you are not allowed to maintain your caches the way that you set them up. What do you mean by that?
+joranda Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 He got a bum deal if you ask me. Everyone thinks they know the story but they haven't gotten a clue. Moral of the story is that you are not allowed to maintain your caches the way that you set them up. What do you mean by that? No answer, no picture, no log.
knowschad Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 He got a bum deal if you ask me. Everyone thinks they know the story but they haven't gotten a clue. Moral of the story is that you are not allowed to maintain your caches the way that you set them up. What do you mean by that? No answer, no picture, no log. Oh, come on!! I double-dog dare ya!
+Sioneva Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 He got a bum deal if you ask me. Everyone thinks they know the story but they haven't gotten a clue. Moral of the story is that you are not allowed to maintain your caches the way that you set them up. What do you mean by that? No answer, no picture, no log. Oh, come on!! I double-dog dare ya! Um, I think that WAS his answer, chad-knower.
knowschad Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 He got a bum deal if you ask me. Everyone thinks they know the story but they haven't gotten a clue. Moral of the story is that you are not allowed to maintain your caches the way that you set them up. What do you mean by that? No answer, no picture, no log. Oh, come on!! I double-dog dare ya! Um, I think that WAS his answer, chad-knower. Yeah, but pretty durned vague. Don'tcha just lava threads lika this?
mresoteric Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 He got a bum deal if you ask me. Everyone thinks they know the story but they haven't gotten a clue. Moral of the story is that you are not allowed to maintain your caches the way that you set them up. What do you mean by that? No answer, no picture, no log. You are his brother, right? Can you say what happened to get him permanently banned?
+joranda Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) He got a bum deal if you ask me. Everyone thinks they know the story but they haven't gotten a clue. Moral of the story is that you are not allowed to maintain your caches the way that you set them up. What do you mean by that? No answer, no picture, no log. You are his brother, right? Can you say what happened to get him permanently banned? Long story short, He got in trouble for maintaining his ECs the way he thought they should be maintained. He was against armchair logging and when he thought it was a armchair logger, he would delete the log since they either didn't post a picture of them at the EC site or send the right answers. That was the start of it, it just ballooned from there. Edited May 28, 2011 by joranda
+dfx Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 Long story short, He got in trouble for maintaining his ECs the way he thought they should be maintained. He was against armchair logging and when he thought it was a armchair logger, he would delete the log since they either didn't post a picture of them at the EC site or send the right answers. I'm curious, what is/was his understanding of the "right answers"? Factually correct answers?
+joranda Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 Long story short, He got in trouble for maintaining his ECs the way he thought they should be maintained. He was against armchair logging and when he thought it was a armchair logger, he would delete the log since they either didn't post a picture of them at the EC site or send the right answers. I'm curious, what is/was his understanding of the "right answers"? Factually correct answers? Well I am sure that is what he meant by right answers. Answers that was for the ECs.
Mr.Yuck Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 He got a bum deal if you ask me. Everyone thinks they know the story but they haven't gotten a clue. Moral of the story is that you are not allowed to maintain your caches the way that you set them up. What do you mean by that? No answer, no picture, no log. Was it really THAT simple? I have 2 Earthcaches, and for some reason, 1 of them is regularly logged by lets just say "the clueless among us". There are obviously picture and answer requirements. I've deleted 3 logs over the years, but those 3 people all went completely bonkers, and I tend to just let it go lately. Well, he ain't no Seal, but I wouldn't mess wit a Cav Scout.
+skisidedown Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 Yes, make my coffee black please. +1 ibtl I guess it is the nature of the internet that this stuff keeps on popping up, but...
4wheelin_fool Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 Another chapter of "as the Cache turns" Yes, but who shot JR?
knowschad Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 He got a bum deal if you ask me. Everyone thinks they know the story but they haven't gotten a clue. Moral of the story is that you are not allowed to maintain your caches the way that you set them up. What do you mean by that? No answer, no picture, no log. You are his brother, right? Can you say what happened to get him permanently banned? Long story short, He got in trouble for maintaining his ECs the way he thought they should be maintained. He was against armchair logging and when he thought it was a armchair logger, he would delete the log since they either didn't post a picture of them at the EC site or send the right answers. That was the start of it, it just ballooned from there. Can pictures still be required for EC's, or not? I had some friends that visited an EC in Jamaica (I think it was) and the cache owner insisted on a picture. They didn't have one. Their log was deleted several times. Groundspeak was brought in, and I don't think that even ended it right there. They ended up by posting a picture that some friends that were with them had taken (a duplicate of what the friends had posted with their log), just to settle the matter. It was so bad that my friends have sworn off Earth Caches ever since. I
+Chokecherry Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 He got a bum deal if you ask me. Everyone thinks they know the story but they haven't gotten a clue. Moral of the story is that you are not allowed to maintain your caches the way that you set them up. What do you mean by that? No answer, no picture, no log. You are his brother, right? Can you say what happened to get him permanently banned? Long story short, He got in trouble for maintaining his ECs the way he thought they should be maintained. He was against armchair logging and when he thought it was a armchair logger, he would delete the log since they either didn't post a picture of them at the EC site or send the right answers. That was the start of it, it just ballooned from there. Can pictures still be required for EC's, or not? I had some friends that visited an EC in Jamaica (I think it was) and the cache owner insisted on a picture. They didn't have one. Their log was deleted several times. Groundspeak was brought in, and I don't think that even ended it right there. They ended up by posting a picture that some friends that were with them had taken (a duplicate of what the friends had posted with their log), just to settle the matter. It was so bad that my friends have sworn off Earth Caches ever since. I You haven't been able to require a picture of a person or something like a GPS unit at a site for a while now. However, in some circumstances you are able to require a picture of something at the site. It's get convoluted really fast. Which is the crux of this issue anyhow. And since I know this will devolve rather quickly now... ibtl.
Mr.Yuck Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) He got a bum deal if you ask me. Everyone thinks they know the story but they haven't gotten a clue. Moral of the story is that you are not allowed to maintain your caches the way that you set them up. What do you mean by that? No answer, no picture, no log. You are his brother, right? Can you say what happened to get him permanently banned? Long story short, He got in trouble for maintaining his ECs the way he thought they should be maintained. He was against armchair logging and when he thought it was a armchair logger, he would delete the log since they either didn't post a picture of them at the EC site or send the right answers. That was the start of it, it just ballooned from there. Can pictures still be required for EC's, or not? I had some friends that visited an EC in Jamaica (I think it was) and the cache owner insisted on a picture. They didn't have one. Their log was deleted several times. Groundspeak was brought in, and I don't think that even ended it right there. They ended up by posting a picture that some friends that were with them had taken (a duplicate of what the friends had posted with their log), just to settle the matter. It was so bad that my friends have sworn off Earth Caches ever since. I You haven't been able to require a picture of a person or something like a GPS unit at a site for a while now. However, in some circumstances you are able to require a picture of something at the site. It's get convoluted really fast. Which is the crux of this issue anyhow. And since I know this will devolve rather quickly now... ibtl. IBTL also. But look at what I bolded above. What do you mean by "at a site"? We're talking about Earthcaches here. Whole 'nuther ballgame, not even reviewed or approved by Groundspeak. I would like to know this answer myself, specifically in the case of EC's. Unless that's what CokeCherry meant. Edited May 28, 2011 by Mr.Yuck
+Team Taran Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 You cannot require a picture of the cacher at the site to log an earthcache. The required learning activity should be designed to be both educationally meaningful and site specific. As I understand it, you can require photos that are a meaningful part of the educational activity- for example a picture of an example of a fossil. I also believe that you cannot require that the photo include that the cacher be identifiable in the picture in any case.
Keystone Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 The original question in this thread has been answered. The topic has turned into a one-sided discussion of an individual account. All of this has played out on repeated occasions in other threads. I am closing this thread.
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