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7th International Math Trade

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Hi everyone,

 

During Math Trade 6, there was a nice response about wanting to do a 7th Math trade, and i agreed to run it. So here it is! This is going to look a LOT like E&C's posts and setup because well....it works.

 

So....here we go!

 

I have 'borrowed' from E&C a new gmail account for this summers's mathtrade to handle all the communications. If you are interested in joining, please send your info to:

 

mathtrade7@gmail.com.

 

I will need your:

 

- Caching Name

- Real Name

- FULL Mailing Address

- Email Address

 

For now I am just gathering names. Once I create the Google spreadsheet I will give you access to it and you can start adding coins! (but don't expect this until closer to the end of May! But...if I have time I'll get it set up sooner.)

 

The trade will be divided into four phases:

 

1. Coin submission - entering your trade offers into the spreadsheet (ends June 11th, 9pm EST)

 

2. Regroup - reorganize your coin submissions to create groups (ends June 18nd, 9pm EST or earlier)

 

3. Want list submission - create your wish lists! (ends June 25th, 9pm EST or earlier)

 

4. Trading! - trade list generated and emailed to you (starts June 28st if all goes well!)

 

Please respect the following rules:

 

1. This is an international trade - only take part in it if you are willing to pay for a possible overseas shipment of your coins! Remember that in theory each coin that you trade away may have to be sent to a different destination, within or outside of your own country.

 

2. You can list both trackable and non-trackable coins. If nothing is mentioned in the Remarks column, the coin will be assumed to be trackable and unactivated. In all other cases the status of the coin needs to be specified in the Remarks column. Activated coins are only allowed if they will be offered up for adoption.

 

3. Participants may only submit one coin of any one edition (same coin with same finish/colour/etc) to trade. Duplicates are not allowed.

 

4. Please make sure you adhere to the deadlines shown above! Any edit after a deadline will be ignored!

 

5. Please keep your list to 50 coins or less!

 

 

Keep an eye on this thread - I will use it to post additional information/clarifications whenever needed!

 

Of course you can also use it to post any questions or remarks.

 

 

 

A More Detailed Explanation:

 

Q. What is a geocoin math trade? What makes it different from a 'normal' trade?

 

A. In a ' normal' trade, person A gives coin X to person B and person B give coin Y to person A. Sometimes person A wants a coin that person B has, but has nothing that interests person B to give in return. In that case person A could go looking for a person C to arrange a trade to get a coin from person's B want list. In a math trade you don't have to hunt for a 'person C' -- the software will do this for you! The math trade software will find optimal 'trade chains', some of which may involve just the regular 2 coins, while other 'trade chains' that are part of the same math trade may involve 3, 4, 5 or even more coins.

 

Q. I feel uncomfortable listing coin offers without knowing what I'll receive in return for them. Why would I do this?

 

A. You will be the one to decide what you'll get in return. After everyone has listed their coin offers, you can go through the total list of offers and make a want list for every coin you have offered. If you are not interested in trading one of your coins for any of the listed offers, you will simply use an empty want list for it, so that your coin won't be traded at all.

 

Q. What if someone offers a coin that I REALLY want? Is there a way that I can maybe offer 2 of my coins in exchange for this coveted coin?

 

A. Yes, there is. After Phase 1 (entering coin offers), we will enter Phase 2 (regrouping). During this phase you have a chance to look closely at the coins that are being offered, and if there are coins you would really want to get, you could try and create a more interesting offer by grouping two or more of your coins into one offer. If you group coin X and Y together, then these will not be traded separately, but as one single unit, for which you can decide (during the want list submission phase) what you want to trade them for.

 

(Detailed instructions for this regrouping will follow once we hit that phase (but don't worry, it's actually quite simple).

 

Q. Two or more people have listed one specific coin that I like. But if I include both in my want lists for, say, two of my coins, I risk ending up with 2 copies of the same coin. Is there a way to prevent this?

 

A. Yes, there is (a more verbose answer will follow at the appropriate time).

Edited by Eartha

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Thank you so much for organising another mathtrade. The last one was my first one and it was so much fun!!!

 

Email sent!

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Email sent. Our first Math Trade. Looking forward to the excitement.

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Thanks for the kind support. This should be fun, plus it lets E&C enjoy one of these without the entire stress of running it. However I know when the files all come back ERROR...... I'll be hitting his mailbox with a flurry of HELP emals.

 

:)

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Thanks for volunteering to run this, Ashallond.

 

The timing is terrible for me, but I'm in!

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Well, got the form done, so I should have just sent out a note to everyone who already signed up the link and instructions are on the first page. There's a link to a form that will help you input your coins.

 

Don't worry about trying to sort the coins, I'll do that periodically.

 

We already have 30 people participating.....so go ahead and start getting coins on the list!

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Well, got the form done, so I should have just sent out a note to everyone who already signed up the link and instructions are on the first page. There's a link to a form that will help you input your coins.

 

I can't get in and I used my gmail name that I sent you.

 

Plus, unless you're moving up the dates to JUNE rather than July, there's no reason to enter coins yet. That's too long to hold them back for the trade.

Edited by AtlantaGal

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I'll give this a go this time. Email sent.

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I'm in! Looking forward to this. :D

 

Err...I'm in the Google Doc, that is. :laughing:

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Atlantagal, let me look into it.

 

problem is that I'll be on vacation from July 1st through about 10th at my inlaws, and the software would be on my computer at home, so I set it up so that it would run in a time frame that it would run when I was home....UNLESS you all want to do a Full June schedule so that the list gets finalized on June 15th, regrouping by June 22nd, and then everything done by June 30th.

 

I'm open to adjusting it, but that means that we'd have to go really quick on the coin loading.

 

Discussion.

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June is better for me, but it might be a tough job to get acceptance from everyone that has signed up.

 

I just did a test, and it seems that we're able to delete coin entries. This means we could add coins now, and delete them before July 15th (eventually June 15th) if a trade comes up.

 

(Edited to add 2nd date option.)

Edited by mamoreb

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Both time schedules work fine for me, but because I'm really looking forward to it: the earlier the better :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Unless I hear massive complaints by Saturday, I'll probably adjust to June.

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Email (about to be) sent. June would be better for me, only because i'm not into delayed gratification! The sooner the better, thanks Allashond!! :D

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All posts to this date should be invited to the spreadsheet, and anyone who sent a problem email should also have it resolved as well.

 

I'm very much leaning towards June. I'd say it's safe to go ahead and start putting in coins.

 

i also would highly recommend using the form to input coins, as if you manually fill them in, there's a chance there may be a line overwritten if someone else is using the form.

Edited by Ashallond

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You might want to ask Eartha to change all the "JULY"s in the OP to JUNE then since you won't be able to edit.

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Yes, if the dates are going to change, could we have clarification of that? The exact ending dates of each phase? July worked better for me since I was glad that it would happen AFTER Geowoodstock, but I'll just have to make sure I'm paying close attention to the new cut off dates before leaving. Thanks! :)

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Gah. Geowoodstock. Completely forgot about that one. Hmm, it's on July 2nd...Right about the time when I'd have the list posted if I went to June.

 

Well, the phases can start sooner once everyone has every piece done, so if I hold the coin entry until June 11th, and then if everyone can get their regrouping and wants in before that week is finished, then we can progress to the next stage.

 

And besides, if more than one of you are going to GWS, and you happen to owe them a coin, maybe you can save postage, or it can be mailed after you get back. Honestly, a lot of the coins in this takes some time as it is to get places...darn oceans and international borders.

 

So since really there's not been massive issues with moving to June, let's do it.

 

I will have the dates updated in the first post. I will also send everyone an email as well. But here's what's the dates will be:

 

1. Coin submission - entering your trade offers into the spreadsheet (ends June 11th, 9pm EST)

 

2. Regroup - reorganize your coin submissions to create groups (ends June 18nd, 9pm EST or earlier)

 

3. Want list submission - create your wish lists! (ends June 25th, 9pm EST or earlier)

 

4. Trading! - trade list generated and emailed to you (starts June 28st if all goes well!)

 

 

Current coin count: 68. Will try to get a list of entrants created soon.

Edited by Ashallond

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Just tried to look at the coin list and i get a Forbidden error. May need to check the doc. I know its not my system cause i can access other google docs without a problem.

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