+TheAlabamaRambler Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 This cache exposes seekers to DHMO, the dangers of which have been well documented here. The cache listing does provide warning, but many people might not read the cache page and thus find themselves unwittingly exposed. Should this cache be archived to protect cachers from exposure? Quote Link to comment
+Walts Hunting Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 What is DHMO? What is the cache gc number? Quote Link to comment
+Too Tall John Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Nah, dangerous caches are published all the time. I just hope the cache owner has selected a container that is appropriate for any exposure to DHMO. The cache description doesn't describe how detrimental it can be to caches. Quote Link to comment
+the3gmen Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 What is DHMO? What is the cache gc number? click the links in the original post Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 What is DHMO? What is the cache gc number? GC11XW0 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=GC11XW0 Quote Link to comment
+t4e Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 apparently we're eating this stuff, well those that eat junk food at least, and it is in household cleaning products, so what makes the cache dangerous? Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 By all means... archive it. Dangerous stuff, that DHMO. Quote Link to comment
+MontyFam Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I think it's fine. The CO provides warning in the cache page and right in the cache name itself. All is good. Seems like it could almost be an earthcache... Quote Link to comment
+Mudfrog Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 This cache exposes seekers to DHMO, the dangers of which have been well documented here. The cache listing does provide warning, but many people might not read the cache page and thus find themselves unwittingly exposed. Should this cache be archived to protect cachers from exposure? Didn't click the link as it showed to be external, but i did do a quick check. This is indeed scary and should be brought to everyone's attention. Quote Link to comment
+Mom-n-Andy Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 LOL. This stuff is so poisonous that the people in the movie Signs were able to defeat the evil invading aliens by splashing small quantities of the chemical on them! Good thing they had some of it on hand! Quote Link to comment
+TomToad Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 If the person can't be bothered to read the warnings on the cache page, then I hope they get a bootfull of DHMO. Quote Link to comment
+dfx Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I've heard that some people actually swim in that stuff. Crazy people... Quote Link to comment
+Michaelcycle Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 This cache exposes seekers to DHMO, the dangers of which have been well documented here. The cache listing does provide warning, but many people might not read the cache page and thus find themselves unwittingly exposed. Should this cache be archived to protect cachers from exposure? No need to archive if only attempted by appropriate geocachers. Here is the MSDS for those interested Note that this material is composed of 100% volatiles. It may react vigorously with some substances (elemental Na comes to mind) The LD50 (per oral) for rats is >90mL/Kg so if you are a rat I suggest moderation Quote Link to comment
+fuzziebear3 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Yeah, I use that stuff every day. I have been known to ingest it regularly, and apply it to my skin as well. Quote Link to comment
+JBnW Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I think its OK, but I live life on the edge. I do think the D rating should be 5 to note "special equipment required", specifically PPE (personal protective equipment) appropriate for being near DHMO during thermal extremes and/or atmospheric fallout conditions. Quote Link to comment
+J the Goat Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 No, shouldn't be archived. Did you know that everything is dangerous? Everything! Nothing is safe! Alright, I don't want to mess with the stuff, but I can't help but wonder if A) the person is exagerating for the sake of the cache page or B ) wore their tinfoil hat to place the cache. There are bad things/substances in everything you touch. To shed light on just one of them that lurks in so many places.... And how did this get past the "agenda" guideline? Quote Link to comment
+dfx Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I have been known to ingest it regularly ... Yeah me too, most of the time the body is able to deal with it just fine, without any adverse effects. However, when combined with Hydroxyethane it can have quite dramatic effects on you. Not recommended in large quantities, even though some people are known to intentionally abuse this combination Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 After looking at the satellite image, I can only surmise that the pine tree is dead due to a lack of a nearby DHMO source. Cachers should be perfectly safe from overexposure to DHMO at this cache location but may want to look out for high velocity CFe alloy, Aluminum, and silicon dioxide structures. Quote Link to comment
Pup Patrol Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 No, shouldn't be archived. Did you know that everything is dangerous? Everything! Nothing is safe! Alright, I don't want to mess with the stuff, but I can't help but wonder if A) the person is exagerating for the sake of the cache page or B ) wore their tinfoil hat to place the cache. There are bad things/substances in everything you touch. To shed light on just one of them that lurks in so many places.... And how did this get past the "agenda" guideline? I'm guessing that "humour" doesn't fall under the agenda guideline. Cache publication date was sooo close to being an "appropriate" date. Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I must be missing something here........ Quote Link to comment
+docsigma Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 What's worse, and what people really don't like to talk about, is that DHMO is also highly addictive. It's one of the great shames of my life. I can't make it through the day without consuming at least 64 ounces of the stuff. Quote Link to comment
Andronicus Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I was looking at the MSDS. Is it just a coincidence that the specific gravity is 1.00? Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Some of you didn't do very well in high school chem class... Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Some of you didn't do very well in high school chem class... Somebody PM'd that to me. Quote Link to comment
+The Blorenges Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Oh come on, guys... It's safe enough if used with a bit of caution and respect. Y'wusses. (Although I admit that total immersion for prolonged periods can be risky if you don't know what you're doing.) MrsB Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 No, shouldn't be archived. Did you know that everything is dangerous? Everything! Nothing is safe! Alright, I don't want to mess with the stuff, but I can't help but wonder if A) the person is exagerating for the sake of the cache page or B ) wore their tinfoil hat to place the cache. There are bad things/substances in everything you touch. To shed light on just one of them that lurks in so many places.... And how did this get past the "agenda" guideline? Quote Link to comment
+va griz Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 LOL. This stuff is so poisonous that the people in the movie Signs were able to defeat the evil invading aliens by splashing small quantities of the chemical on them! Good thing they had some of it on hand! The hazards of DHMO were well known in the movies before that. As far back as 1939 there was a movie where the protagonist was not just injured or killed, but totally dissolved, merely by being exposed to it. Nothing left but a broom. Nasty stuff I tell you. Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 LOL. This stuff is so poisonous that the people in the movie Signs were able to defeat the evil invading aliens by splashing small quantities of the chemical on them! Good thing they had some of it on hand! The hazards of DHMO were well known in the movies before that. As far back as 1939 there was a movie where the protagonist was not just injured or killed, but totally dissolved, merely by being exposed to it. Nothing left but a broom. Nasty stuff I tell you. And to think I let my kids watch that movie. What a world, what a world. Quote Link to comment
+bflentje Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 This one was funny back in 1992 when the Internet was near it's start (with the public at large). Time for some new material. Quote Link to comment
+Michaelcycle Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I have been known to ingest it regularly ... Yeah me too, most of the time the body is able to deal with it just fine, without any adverse effects. However, when combined with Hydroxyethane it can have quite dramatic effects on you. Not recommended in large quantities, even though some people are known to intentionally abuse this combination DHMO does not have to be combined with hydroxyethane to cause death. DHMO intoxication can be fatal. Interested parties can review this abstract bflentje: I contributed some of that early material (on the ARPAnet) it goes back further than you might guess. I think the Marx brothers are still funny Quote Link to comment
+PokerLuck Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I've got whole bottles of DHMO at home, most of them mixed with hydroxyethane in high concentrations. I drink it regularly and it hasn't been a health problem for me. At least I don't remember any problems. Quote Link to comment
+A & J Tooling Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 My wife is always trying to get me to drink some. I keep telling her I get plenty in my coffee but she insists that isn't good enough. Should I worry? Should I check on my life insurance? Inquiring minds need to know. Quote Link to comment
+LukeTrocity Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I remember Penn and teller did this at a college campus and got a bunch of people to sign a petition to ban DHMO. Pretty funny. Quote Link to comment
+Too Tall John Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 This one was funny back in 1992 when the Internet was near it's start (with the public at large). Time for some new material. Complaining about how we need new material is so 1980's. It's time for you to find a new thing to complain about. Like how DHMO has ruined many a geocache. If the government won't do anything about it, at least Groundspeak should! I call for a new guideline: All geocaches listed on this site should have containers able to withstand exposure to DHMO. Who's with me? Quote Link to comment
+va griz Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 .... What a world, what a world. We're not in Kansas anymore are we? Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 DHMO? Hell, my neighborhood is so tough we dissolve that stuff in our drinking water! Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 DHMO? Hell, my neighborhood is so tough we dissolve that stuff in our drinking water! Quote Link to comment
+geodarts Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) And how did this get past the "agenda" guideline? That was my question. I have understood that the agenda guideline has a fairly large sweep that encompasses a great many things. I suppose it is better to keep us all happy than to inform about our understanding of the world about us. Indeed, upon the advice of my optometrist, I use a magnetic system to filter my water for DMHO. Against the advice of my optometrist, I agree with the esteemed Mr. Fields about its dangers, which even filtering cannot completely solve. Fortunately, if you transform it into beer or mix it with coffee it becomes harmless. Even then, it would not surprise me if my town had an ordinance against the stuff - since we address pesticides, nuclear energy, plastic bags, and cell phone towers -- than can we possibly overlook this? Although this cache gives rise to other possible themes. . . . don't try to publish an Aspartame cache. Edited May 13, 2011 by mulvaney Quote Link to comment
+hzoi Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 What is DHMO? What is the cache gc number? No, shouldn't be archived. Did you know that everything is dangerous? Everything! Nothing is safe! Alright, I don't want to mess with the stuff, but I can't help but wonder if A) the person is exagerating for the sake of the cache page or B ) wore their tinfoil hat to place the cache. There are bad things/substances in everything you touch. To shed light on just one of them that lurks in so many places.... And how did this get past the "agenda" guideline? I must be missing something here........ . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . ,.-‘”. . . . . . . . . .``~., . . . . . . . .. . . . . .,.-”. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .“-., . . . . .. . . . . . ..,/. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ”:, . . . . . . . .. .,?. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\, . . . . . . . . . /. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,} . . . . . . . . ./. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,:`^`.} . . . . . . . ./. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,:”. . . ./ . . . . . . .?. . . __. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :`. . . ./ . . . . . . . /__.(. . .“~-,_. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,:`. . . .. ./ . . . . . . /(_. . ”~,_. . . ..“~,_. . . . . . . . . .,:`. . . . _/ . . . .. .{.._$;_. . .”=,_. . . .“-,_. . . ,.-~-,}, .~”; /. .. .} . . .. . .((. . .*~_. . . .”=-._. . .“;,,./`. . /” . . . ./. .. ../ . . . .. . .\`~,. . ..“~.,. . . . . . . . . ..`. . .}. . . . . . ../ . . . . . .(. ..`=-,,. . . .`. . . . . . . . . . . ..(. . . ;_,,-” . . . . . ../.`~,. . ..`-.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..\. . /\ . . . . . . \`~.*-,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..|,./.....\,__ ,,_. . . . . }.>-._\. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .|. . . . . . ..`=~-, . .. `=~-,_\_. . . `\,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\ . . . . . . . . . .`=~-,,.\,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . `:,, . . . . . . . . . . . . . `\. . . . . . ..__ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .`=-,. . . . . . . . . .,%`>-- Quote Link to comment
+Sioneva Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 You know, scientists have specuulated that a lot of the DHMO present in the world has extraterrestrial origin. Mostly from comets striking the earth. So not only is that stuff downright dangerous, it's also a byproduct of those darn space aliens using our planet for target practice! Gosh darn it, where is Vinny when you need him?? Quote Link to comment
mresoteric Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Dangerous stuff indeed. It concealed underlying roots which led to pretty serious injury. Of course, if it had been in its pure form, I don't think it would have posed as much of a threat. Quote Link to comment
+J the Goat Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 No, shouldn't be archived. Did you know that everything is dangerous? Everything! Nothing is safe! Alright, I don't want to mess with the stuff, but I can't help but wonder if A) the person is exagerating for the sake of the cache page or B ) wore their tinfoil hat to place the cache. There are bad things/substances in everything you touch. To shed light on just one of them that lurks in so many places.... And how did this get past the "agenda" guideline? We were out of coffee this morning! My kids were driving me nuts! Uh..... Okay, I'm got. Quote Link to comment
+Sioneva Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 No, shouldn't be archived. Did you know that everything is dangerous? Everything! Nothing is safe! Alright, I don't want to mess with the stuff, but I can't help but wonder if A) the person is exagerating for the sake of the cache page or B ) wore their tinfoil hat to place the cache. There are bad things/substances in everything you touch. To shed light on just one of them that lurks in so many places.... And how did this get past the "agenda" guideline? We were out of coffee this morning! My kids were driving me nuts! Uh..... Okay, I'm got. Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 This one was funny back in 1992 when the Internet was near it's start (with the public at large). Time for some new material. OBVIOUS GROUCH IS OBVIOUS Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 This one was funny back in 1992 when the Internet was near it's start (with the public at large). Time for some new material. Still waiting... Quote Link to comment
mresoteric Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 This one was funny back in 1992 when the Internet was near it's start (with the public at large). Time for some new material. As long as you're still catching fish with it, why change bait? Quote Link to comment
+GeoGeeBee Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 (Although I admit that total immersion for prolonged periods can be risky if you don't know what you're doing.) Fortunately, the condition known as "prune fingers" is only temporary. Quote Link to comment
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