+DukeOfURL01 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Over the last weekend, I found this mark near my hometown that is clearly NGS, so should be in the database, but I can find no mention of it. Can somebody help me to identify this mark? I found it at N39 11.625 W123 12.416 I'm pretty sure that the text that is hard to read says FORKS since that is the nickname of the area that it was, but it looks kinda like FORD also. Thanks! Quote Link to comment
southpawaz Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Looks to me like it's probably reference mark 2 for KT2014, which was last reported as not found in 1980. Quote Link to comment
+LSUFan Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) Looks to me like it's probably reference mark 2 for KT2014, which was last reported as not found in 1980. Southpawaz nailed it. It should be the reference mark 2 for the triangulation station Ford. It says 'reference mark' on the righthand side of the disk. KT2014'THE STATION MARK IS A STANDARD DISK STAMPED FORD 1949 SET KT2014'IN THE TOP OF A CONCRETE CYLINDER 10 INCHES IN DIAMETER KT2014'THE TOP OF WHICH LIES ABOUT 10 INCHES BELOW THE SURFACE OF KT2014'THE GROUND. IT IS 29.0 FEET WEST OF THE CENTER LINE OF U.S. KT2014'HIGHWAY 101. KT2014' KT2014'REFERENCE MARK NUMBER 1 IS A STANDARD DISK STAMPED FORD NO 1 1949 KT2014'SET IN THE TOP OF A 10-INCH SQUARE CONCRETE POST THAT PROJECTS KT2014'ABOUT 4 INCHES ABOVE THE GROUND. IT IS 2.0 FEET NORTHEAST OF A KT2014'POWER LINE POLE, 29.6 FEET EAST OF THE CENTER LINE OF U.S. KT2014'HIGHWAY 101 AND ABOUT THE SAME ELEVATION AS THE STATION. KT2014' KT2014'REFERENCE MARK NUMBER 2 IS A STANDARD DISK STAMPED FORD NO KT2014'2 1949 SET IN THE TOP OF A 10-INCH SQUARE CONCRETE POST THAT KT2014'PROJECTS ABOUT 5 INCHES ABOVE THE GROUND. IT IS 15.0 FEET KT2014'SOUTH OF THE CENTER LINE OF A SIDE ROAD, 36.8 FEET WEST OF THE KT2014'CENTER LINE OF U.S. HIGHWAY 101 AND ABOUT THE SAME ELEVATION KT2014'AS THE STATION. KT2014' KT2014'THE AZIMUTH MARK IS A STANDARD DISK STAMPED FORD 1949 SET IN KT2014'THE TOP OF A 10-INCH SQUARE CONCRETE POST THAT PROJECTS ABOUT KT2014'5 INCHES ABOVE THE GROUND. IT IS 3.8 FEET EAST OF A POWER KT2014'LINE POLE AND 28.6 FEET NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF THE KT2014'CENTER LINES OF U.S. HIGHWAY 101 AND A SIDE ROAD. TO REACH KT2014'THE AZIMUTH MARK FROM THE STATION, GO NORTH ON U.S. HIGHWAY KT2014'101 FOR 0.25 MILE TO A SIDE ROAD ON THE LEFT AND THE AZIMUTH KT2014'MARK ON THE RIGHT. George has an excellent tutorial on triangulation stations, and what kind of disks (with their purposes in a set) that is pinned at the very top of the benchmark forums here. It will help explain (and show) what the reference mark disks are. Sometimes a reference mark disk can have it's own separate PID datasheet, but most of the time they don't. http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=185361 Edited April 29, 2011 by LSUFan Quote Link to comment
+DukeOfURL01 Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 Ok, thank you! Quote Link to comment
southpawaz Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I was a bit pressed for time when I posted this morning. Found it by converting your coordinates to DMS and plugging in to the NGS Radial Search function. Quote Link to comment
kayakbird Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I only see one NOT FOUND recovery (1980), and wonder if the previous logger made a serious search for RM 1 and the UNDERGROUND station. kayakbird 'Recovery notes of 1977 and 1980 say the mark was searched for but not found.' KT2014 numerous lines deleted KT2014 STATION RECOVERY (1964) KT2014 KT2014''BUT THE UNDERGROUND-STATION MARK, THE AZIMUTH MARK, AND KT2014''REFERENCE MARKS NUMBER 1 AND 2 WERE RECOVERED IN GOOD CONDITION. KT2014 STATION RECOVERY (1970) KT2014 KT2014''DID NOT DIG FOR STATION MARK. RECOVERED R.M. 1, R.M. 2 AND KT2014''AZIMUTH MARK. KT2014 STATION RECOVERY (1977) KT2014 KT2014''RECOVERY NOTE BY NATIONAL GEODETIC SURVEY 1977 (ARB) KT2014''FORD 1949 AND AZIMUTH MARK WAS NOT SEARCHED FOR. KT2014 STATION RECOVERY (1980) KT2014 KT2014''1007. THE STATION MARK AND AZIMUTH MARK WERE SEARCHED FOR BUT KT2014''NOT FOUND. Quote Link to comment
+DukeOfURL01 Posted May 1, 2011 Author Share Posted May 1, 2011 I was a bit pressed for time when I posted this morning. Found it by converting your coordinates to DMS and plugging in to the NGS Radial Search function. Hmm, I did that only on Geocaching.com, and wasn't able to come up with what I wanted. Quote Link to comment
Wintertime Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 I was a bit pressed for time when I posted this morning. Found it by converting your coordinates to DMS and plugging in to the NGS Radial Search function. Hmm, I did that only on Geocaching.com, and wasn't able to come up with what I wanted. You used the Advanced Search on Gc.com and it didn't work for you? That's odd. I just tried it with your coordinates, and this one was at the top of the results: KT2014 0mi N FORD CA The data sheet on the page for that mark says, "REFERENCE MARK NUMBER 2 IS A STANDARD DISK STAMPED FORD NO 2 1949 SET IN THE TOP OF A 10-INCH SQUARE CONCRETE POST THAT PROJECTS ABOUT 5 INCHES ABOVE THE GROUND." Quote Link to comment
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