+Al 7365 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Has a cache ever been placed where a metal detector is required? I know geocaches can't be buried but you could place it under leafs and say walk from one coordinate to another. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Quote Link to comment
+The Blorenges Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Not that I'm aware of but when the leaves blow away you wouldn't need a metal detector..... Chris (MrB) Quote Link to comment
+Boltonian Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I would say avoid at all costs. I know no one with a metal detector and dont wish to start. Quote Link to comment
+Al 7365 Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 I would say avoid at all costs. I know no one with a metal detector and dont wish to start. What exactly is the problem with it? Could you please link to it. Cheers Alex Quote Link to comment
+Boltonian Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I would say avoid at all costs. I know no one with a metal detector and dont wish to start. What exactly is the problem with it? Could you please link to it. Cheers Alex ?? lINK TO WHAT?? Think of it this way, if you dont intend to bury it, whats the need for the detector. It alienates all those people out there that cannot use a detector for whatever reason. It brings unnecessary attention to the seeker by the muggers muglers or whatever. Quote Link to comment
+Seganku Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Personally it wouldn't be a cache that I would look for simply because I don't own a metal detector. Just like I wouldn't search for some extreme cache where I would need climbing equipment, however, lots of people do enjoy those challenges. Why not try it, if it doesn't work out you can always archive it. How about a metal cache designed to look like something else (non metallic) which is then placed around the non metallic objects its disguised to look like? Quote Link to comment
+The Blorenges Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 (edited) Has a cache ever been placed where a metal detector is required? I know geocaches can't be buried but you could place it under leafs and say walk from one coordinate to another. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I've been thunking. Your cache would have to have some sort of final co-ordinate location. I don't hink it's possible to have one where you say something like, "Go to (co-ordinates set A.) then walk towards (co-ordinates set B.) and the cache is somewhere between the two." Given that you need to give final co-ordinates, how would you ensure that someone had to use a metal detector? You know the cache can't be buried, so I guess you're thinking of hiding it in something like leaf mould under trees? How would you stop anyone just simply searching with their hands/pointy stick/boots/special-highly-trained-cache-sniffing-dog? I like your original thinking but I'm not sure how you could make it work for a hidden cache, within the Guidelines... MrsB Edited February 16, 2011 by The Blorenges Quote Link to comment
+Happy Humphrey Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I know an archaeologist (who's also found a few caches with me) and she's happy to extol the virtues of caching to other archaeologists. One of the main virtues is that you don't need a metal detector for caching (archaeologists hate metal detectorists!). Even if only a few caches need such equipment it would bring down the reputation of caching a degree or two. So I wouldn't support such a cache even if it could be made to work. Quote Link to comment
+Birdman-of-liskatraz Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I know an archaeologist (who's also found a few caches with me) and she's happy to extol the virtues of caching to other archaeologists. One of the main virtues is that you don't need a metal detector for caching (archaeologists hate metal detectorists!). Even if only a few caches need such equipment it would bring down the reputation of caching a degree or two. So I wouldn't support such a cache even if it could be made to work. Now thats unfair - "Some archaeologists hate metal detectorists" might be a fair comment... Certainly in my metal detecting days in Norfolk some of us worked quite closely with local archaelogists. Even so, I don't see how it could be made to work to make it exclusive to detectorists. Quote Link to comment
+keehotee Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Has a cache ever been placed where a metal detector is required? I know geocaches can't be buried but you could place it under leafs and say walk from one coordinate to another. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I've been thunking. Your cache would have to have some sort of final co-ordinate location. I don't hink it's possible to have one where you say something like, "Go to (co-ordinates set A.) then walk towards (co-ordinates set B.) and the cache is somewhere between the two." Given that you need to give final co-ordinates, how would you ensure that someone had to use a metal detector? You know the cache can't be buried, so I guess you're thinking of hiding it in something like leaf mould under trees? How would you stop anyone just simply searching with their hands/pointy stick/boots/special-highly-trained-cache-sniffing-dog? I like your original thinking but I'm not sure how you could make it work for a hidden cache, within the Guidelines... MrsB I believe the guideline is that you must have to use a GPS somewhere in the search - so walking between two sets of co-ords would fit the bill (unless the guideline's changed....) Added to that, most night caches don't give final co-ords, but rely on alternative means of locating the cache after a GPS-able initial waypoint Quote Link to comment
+Happy Humphrey Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Now thats unfair - "Some archaeologists hate metal detectorists" might be a fair comment... Certainly in my metal detecting days in Norfolk some of us worked quite closely with local archaelogists. I think they all hate metal detectorists...however they may befriend one or two to glean information (whilst still cursing them in private!) Quote Link to comment
+Rich1010 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I like the idea even though I do not own a metal detector. Placing the cache without burying it would be a task in itself but If that was overcome then why not ? It's not much different to needing climbing gear, ladder or even a boat! As long as the cache description was worded and rated correctly then I say go for it Good luck. Quote Link to comment
+MartyBartfast Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Personally I wouldn't do it, but if one or two caches required a metal detector to find then I'd just ignore them just as I ignore other caches requiring specialist equipment which I don't have. However how would you make it work? As others have said you'd need to give some sort of locale in which to search, and what's to stop someone then seaching by the traditional methods? The only way I can think of would be to make the cache a metal micro (or nano) which would be very difficult to find by hand; or make it a 2 stage multi where the first stage is a metal micro/nano containing the co-ords for a larger container. I do think there is a risk of alienating landowners though so it would have to be made clear to the landowner that a metal detector was being used for the cache, otherwise they might get uptight about hoards of detectorists descending on their land. Quote Link to comment
+Jonovich Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Go for it, if you can find a way to hide a cache that requires or is greatly helped by the use of a metal dectector, then I say Hurrah! It's nice to have the unusual in amoungst the rest! As for how you'd integrate it without burying the cache, I can think of several! A bucket full of film cans, only one has the log and it also contains a some tin foil! Either open everyone in turn, or if you have a metal detector, quickly detect which can you need! Hide a metal cache in a hollowed out log? We've already borrowed a friends metal detector to locate a small metal cache hidden in amougst the roots of a tree. The GPSr got us to a location with several likely tree's and lots of plastic decoys, but the detector helped us locate the real cache! Jon. Quote Link to comment
+burtsbodgers Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Well i quite like the idea. If it is well thought out. If you hid a metal cache ( which every one hates ) like a nano in an ivy covered tree, then the use of a small hand held "Stud detector" could be used and these are very inexpensive compared to a fully grown metal detector and useful around the home for DIY. Also another idea would be to bury a length of Metal fencing wire which is detectable and followed to the cache. But i would be inclined to use something like a childs metal detector when setting as this would make a childs day to find a cache in this manor, and many children do have toy detectors , mine did when they were younger but we never found anything worth mentioning. Quote Link to comment
+keehotee Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Well i quite like the idea. If it is well thought out. If you hid a metal cache ( which every one hates ) like a nano in an ivy covered tree, then the use of a small hand held "Stud detector" could be used and these are very inexpensive compared to a fully grown metal detector and useful around the home for DIY. Also another idea would be to bury a length of Metal fencing wire which is detectable and followed to the cache. But i would be inclined to use something like a childs metal detector when setting as this would make a childs day to find a cache in this manor, and many children do have toy detectors , mine did when they were younger but we never found anything worth mentioning. Surely you mean "a metal cache like a nano (which every one hates)....." Can't see anybody moaning at a metal cache unless it were a nano Just to add - lots of phones with onboard compasses are capable of running metal detector apps too (well, iFones and most Android phones, anyway) Quote Link to comment
team tisri Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Go for it, if you can find a way to hide a cache that requires or is greatly helped by the use of a metal dectector, then I say Hurrah! It's nice to have the unusual in amoungst the rest! As for how you'd integrate it without burying the cache, I can think of several! A bucket full of film cans, only one has the log and it also contains a some tin foil! Either open everyone in turn, or if you have a metal detector, quickly detect which can you need! Hide a metal cache in a hollowed out log? We've already borrowed a friends metal detector to locate a small metal cache hidden in amougst the roots of a tree. The GPSr got us to a location with several likely tree's and lots of plastic decoys, but the detector helped us locate the real cache! Jon. A cache on top of a mountain in Pennsylvania was one where a metal detector would have made life so much easier. It was an ammo can under a rock, but the trouble was that it was on a pile of scree. I found it on my eighth attempt spanning four years, and some caching friends out there found it one visit before they planned to return with a metal detector. Quote Link to comment
+Al 7365 Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 What I was planning is to have a second set of coordinates in the metal box is a GPS would be required. I would say walk from one coordinate to another with the metal detector on the left hand side of the path, it would be a significant distance (quater of a mile min.) so it would be very hard to search that whole area. Could a reviewer offer some advice on whether there would be any guidline issues. Alex Quote Link to comment
+MBFace Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 What I was planning is to have a second set of coordinates in the metal box is a GPS would be required. I would say walk from one coordinate to another with the metal detector on the left hand side of the path, it would be a significant distance (quater of a mile min.) so it would be very hard to search that whole area. Could a reviewer offer some advice on whether there would be any guidline issues. Alex Email/PM the reviewer who publishes caches in your area??? Quote Link to comment
+bones1 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 What I was planning is to have a second set of coordinates in the metal box is a GPS would be required. I would say walk from one coordinate to another with the metal detector on the left hand side of the path, it would be a significant distance (quater of a mile min.) so it would be very hard to search that whole area. Could a reviewer offer some advice on whether there would be any guidline issues. Alex Email/PM the reviewer who publishes caches in your area??? Quote Link to comment
+bones1 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I have a metal detector after dr solly recommended one to me,its a hand held device about 12 inches long and two inches wide,the type you see at airports being waved over curvy bodies,nice job eh. i have used it when 35 mm s are hanging in a tree with a metal hook etc or a small capsule but if the tree it wet it grounds so goes to earth and makes it beep,but i have found a few caches with it,what with the 12 foot extendable ladder,mountain bike,rope,string, welding rods,magnets,scissors,spare boots and socks,the list is endless i find i now need a removal lorry to follow me with all the equipment and gadgets that have been collected just to find a cache,the day i bought the focus i folded the back seats down and they have been like that for two years to accomodate this stuff,just think of what i can get in my freelander from next week. so if you set a cache i am ready .happy caching patandjeff=bones1. Quote Link to comment
+Graculus Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 What I was planning is to have a second set of coordinates in the metal box is a GPS would be required. I would say walk from one coordinate to another with the metal detector on the left hand side of the path, it would be a significant distance (quater of a mile min.) so it would be very hard to search that whole area. Could a reviewer offer some advice on whether there would be any guidline issues. Alex You have to use a GPS at some point in the 'trail' so you need to be able to enter a set of coordinates into the GPS and use that to get to a location. What happens before or after that is up to you (subject to any other guidelines). You could have a complex trail using a metal detector locating things to a final box which has a note in it with the actual cache location coords written on it. You use these and your GPS to get to the actual cache. GPS usage! Chris Graculus Volunteer UK Reviewer for geocaching.com UK Geocaching Information & Resources website www.follow-the-arrow.co.uk Geocaching.com Knowledge Books Quote Link to comment
+Al 7365 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 Could the Forum Mod. please close this thread. Thanks Quote Link to comment
+Captain Gore-tex Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Hmm, Ive been wanting to find someone with a metal detector to see if THIS can be found for the first time. Any offers in the local? Quote Link to comment
+The Blorenges Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) This one? http://www.trigpointinguk.com/trigs/trig-details.php?t=7187 Oh... No... Something off to one side... MrsB Edited February 24, 2011 by The Blorenges Quote Link to comment
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