+WRASTRO Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Many who post in these forums do not know what TFTC, TNLNSL, LPC and GSAK mean. Does that mean we shouldn't use these "words" as we go about our geocaching lives? When I encounter a word I am not familiar with I look it up if I need to. Happens pretty frequently. I simply do not understand why this has become an issue here. Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Seems to me the mere fact that a number of posters to this thread did not know what "boilerplate" meant is clear evidence that there is an issue with that word. 'Nuf said. True enough but the provided link to the OP made things clear. Quote Link to comment
+Cpt.Blackbeard Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Some posters here seem to think that if they personally don't know a word no one should ever use that word. And one of them never heard of the OK Corral, seems the word isn't so much the problem as the state of education these days. Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I've never heard of boilerplate... EVER. I've lived in many different states, and I'm not a spring chicken, and I've never heard of the word boilerplate before either. Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I've never heard of boilerplate... EVER. I've lived in many different states, and I'm not a spring chicken, and I've never heard of the word boilerplate before either. I have. I win! Quote Link to comment
+Sol seaker Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I've heard of it many times, but we're not debating whether it's a legitimate question or not. It's okay to ask ANY question. No one has ever said different. Only one person is trying to debate that with himself. Do not humor him. He is trying to strike up an argument. Don't humor him. Quote Link to comment
+KI4HLW Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Some posters here seem to think that if they personally don't know a word no one should ever use that word. And one of them never heard of the OK Corral, seems the word isn't so much the problem as the state of education these days. That's not what anyone said, What I'm saying is you can't stand there and say a word is in common use to a whole bunch of people who have not heard it. Well you can say it, but it's not gonna make it true. Quote Link to comment
+Chokecherry Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I have no issue with the word being used. My issue is someone with sone authority who is supposed to convey information to an individual to assist them should use common language and should not be using slang. End of story. It's that simple. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I've got one word for this discussion: balderdash! Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I have no issue with the word being used. My issue is someone with sone authority who is supposed to convey information to an individual to assist them should use common language and should not be using slang. End of story. It's that simple. I am much surprised by the number of folks who haven't heard the word boilerplate before. It honestly never would have occurred to me that someone would not know it. It is that simple. When someone says something I don't understand I have a very useful word that I use. "Huh?" Quote Link to comment
+Cpt.Blackbeard Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Some posters here seem to think that if they personally don't know a word no one should ever use that word. And one of them never heard of the OK Corral, seems the word isn't so much the problem as the state of education these days. That's not what anyone said, What I'm saying is you can't stand there and say a word is in common use to a whole bunch of people who have not heard it. Well you can say it, but it's not gonna make it true. Pick any word and you'll find people who have never heard it, that does not mean it isn't common nor does it make it slang. And yes many here are saying that, not straight out but inferred. Denying it's a common word doesn't make it uncommon, oh you can claim it but it isn't true. Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I've got one word for this discussion: balderdash! Explanation for those of you that have no clue whence this word "balderdash" came from. Someone who is balder than someone else, ran a dash and won! (Sorry for the fiddle-faddle fun. Couldn't help myself...) Shirley~ Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I've got one word for this discussion: balderdash! Explanation for those of you that have no clue whence this word "balderdash" came from. Someone who is balder than someone else, ran a dash and won! (Sorry for the fiddle-faddle fun. Couldn't help myself...) Shirley~ That explanation of balderdash ought to help those more persnickety folks among us. Much obliged. Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I've got one word for this discussion: balderdash! Explanation for those of you that have no clue whence this word "balderdash" came from. Someone who is balder than someone else, ran a dash and won! (Sorry for the fiddle-faddle fun. Couldn't help myself...) Shirley~ That explanation of balderdash ought to help those more persnickety folks among us. Much obliged. Oh, no,,,,, Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I've got one word for this discussion: balderdash! Explanation for those of you that have no clue whence this word "balderdash" came from. Someone who is balder than someone else, ran a dash and won! (Sorry for the fiddle-faddle fun. Couldn't help myself...) Shirley~ That explanation of balderdash ought to help those more persnickety folks among us. Much obliged. Oh, no,,,,, You didn't just draw up that "Thank You" smiley right now, did you? I suspect it is just a boilerplate image. Quote Link to comment
Pup Patrol Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I'm a Canadian. I had no idea what "DNR" meant in the context of geocaching. I wasn't familiar with the term "boilerplate" until I read this thread. I had no idea what was being asked of the OP until post #37. Once I read that post, and read the example cache page, all was clear. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I'm a Canadian. I had no idea what "DNR" meant in the context of geocaching. I wasn't familiar with the term "boilerplate" until I read this thread. I had no idea what was being asked of the OP until post #37. Once I read that post, and read the example cache page, all was clear. Baldersash! Quote Link to comment
Pup Patrol Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 (edited) I'm a Canadian. I had no idea what "DNR" meant in the context of geocaching. I wasn't familiar with the term "boilerplate" until I read this thread. I had no idea what was being asked of the OP until post #37. Once I read that post, and read the example cache page, all was clear. Baldersash! Yeah, yeah, let's not get all persnickety and have a conniption fit. toque, 2-4, pogey, double-double, fuddle duddle, eh? Edited February 4, 2011 by Pup Patrol Quote Link to comment
mtbikernate Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Just because cachers should eschew placing caches without permission, doesn't mean the word "eschew" should be used in official communications to cachers. Just like the word "boilerplate". I don't have a limited vocabulary, but I don't recall ever hearing that word before, and I certainly didn't know what it meant before this thread. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Just because cachers should eschew placing caches without permission, doesn't mean the word "eschew" should be used in official communications to cachers. Just like the word "boilerplate". I don't have a limited vocabulary, but I don't recall ever hearing that word before, and I certainly didn't know what it meant before this thread. I find it virtually acataleptic that such a word would be considered commonplace in the 21st century. But then, I am known to be a bit of a dasypygal sort of dog. Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 If you guys want to play with big words, maybe you can do this puzzle instead. Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I still don't understand the angst here. If someone uses a word I don't understand I either look it up or ask the person who used it for a definition. It's a chance to learn something new. Asking people to only use words I already know would be ridiculous. How are they supposed to know if I know a word or not? http://www.merriam-webster.com/ Quote Link to comment
dnrboilerplate Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 you shcould feel free to ask here without two pages of dbate about weather or not a word should be used. is it that hard too just asnwer the questoin? Quote Link to comment
+Sioneva Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 you shcould feel free to ask here without two pages of dbate about weather or not a word should be used. is it that hard too just asnwer the questoin? Evidently not, since it was answered in post #3. Or is this another rhetorical question? Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 you shcould feel free to ask here without two pages of dbate about weather or not a word should be used. is it that hard too just asnwer the questoin? Evidently not, since it was answered in post #3. Or is this another rhetorical question? Actually, you pointed out the problem exactly here. #3 would not have answered the OP's question. You need to look at the example Starbrand provided in #37. Essentially, what is required is: 1. Download, print out, fill in and submit the form 2. Add the boilerplate text to the cache description 3. Inform the reviewer that all that is done (and presumably DNR did not reject the cache placement). Step 2 was not clear. In fact, it was downright misleading in the reviewer note that Keystone copy and pasted into his post. To me this seems to me the more important issue, compared to the popularity of the word "boilerplate" and whether it is mainstream or slang. Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 you shcould feel free to ask here without two pages of dbate about weather or not a word should be used. is it that hard too just asnwer the questoin? Evidently not, since it was answered in post #3. Or is this another rhetorical question? Actually, you pointed out the problem exactly here. #3 would not have answered the OP's question. You need to look at the example Starbrand provided in #37. Essentially, what is required is: 1. Download, print out, fill in and submit the form 2. Add the boilerplate text to the cache description 3. Inform the reviewer that all that is done (and presumably DNR did not reject the cache placement). Step 2 was not clear. In fact, it was downright misleading in the reviewer note that Keystone copy and pasted into his post. To me this seems to me the more important issue, compared to the popularity of the word "boilerplate" and whether it is mainstream or slang. Actually - it seemed very clear to me after reading Keystone's post. Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 (edited) Actually - it seemed very clear to me after reading Keystone's post. I don't get how "In order to have a cache in this location you must submit a notification form to the proper DNR office and add the required boilerplate." means I need to paste the boilerplate into the cache page. Reading that line it sounds like the boilerplate text belongs in the form. I did notice that post #7 gave the complete answer though. I did not notice that earlier. Edited February 4, 2011 by Chrysalides Quote Link to comment
+Cpt.Blackbeard Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 As already stated I would have asked the reviewer or looked it up, I would not get upset because I didn't know what it meant. Quote Link to comment
+dmblair13 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 It didn't seem like the OP was upset about the term. Also, I really don't see a problem with asking a question like that in a geocaching forum. Could she have looked it up in google - sure. Perhaps he/she just figured it would be helpful to ask in a geocaching forum since it was used in reference to placing a geocache. These forums are really rough on people with innocuous questions! Quote Link to comment
+Sol seaker Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Since dictionaries seem to be a thing of the past and people are so opposed to using them, I suggest we compile a list of the words that everyone here knows, and we all stick to the common words on that list. Quote Link to comment
+mountainman38 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 LPC = Lamp Post Cache, the ones under the lift-able skirt that covers the bolts that hold down the metal pole part. Cool the first dozen times you find them, but tend to get old quickly. Fixed that for ya. Quote Link to comment
+mountainman38 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I'm a Canadian. I had no idea what "DNR" meant in the context of geocaching. I wasn't familiar with the term "boilerplate" until I read this thread. I had no idea what was being asked of the OP until post #37. Once I read that post, and read the example cache page, all was clear. Baldersash! You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Quote Link to comment
+hydnsek Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I'm a Canadian. I had no idea what "DNR" meant in the context of geocaching. I wasn't familiar with the term "boilerplate" until I read this thread. I had no idea what was being asked of the OP until post #37. Once I read that post, and read the example cache page, all was clear. Baldersash! You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Inconceivable! Quote Link to comment
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