Error in Iowa Souvenir

[+WyseGuys]

While maybe not a big deal, the new Iowa souvenir (which I really like) isn't entirely correct. It states that "Iowa is the only state whose west and east borders are 100% formed by water — the Missouri and Mississippi rivers, respectively." However, there is a small segment of Iowa that juts across the Missouri river and "into Nebraska", so to speak. Look closely at a map of the north Omaha area and you will see "Carter Lake" Iowa. To drive from the city of Omaha to the airport, you actually pass through Iowa without ever crossing the river. There are a few Iowa caches on the west side of the Missouri river.

[GOF and Bacall]

Sounds like there could be an interesting story in there somewhere.

[+39chevy]

Carter Lake was on the east side of the Missouri until the river did what it has always done and went where it wanted to.

[+ArcherDragoon]

I am still waiting for my North Dakota award!!!

 

I have California...and that is just one moving cache...hilarious!!!

[+catsnfish]

Carter Lake was on the east side of the Missouri until the river did what it has always done and went where it wanted to.

A City Separated EarthCache details how this came about.

[+Harry Dolphin]

While maybe not a big deal, the new Iowa souvenir (which I really like) isn't entirely correct. It states that "Iowa is the only state whose west and east borders are 100% formed by water — the Missouri and Mississippi rivers, respectively."

 

Hmm... The west border of New Jerey is the Delaware River/Delaware Bay, and the east border is the Hudson River/Kill van Kull and the Atlantic Ocean. So, New Jersey qualifies.

[+hukilaulau]

While maybe not a big deal, the new Iowa souvenir (which I really like) isn't entirely correct. It states that "Iowa is the only state whose west and east borders are 100% formed by water — the Missouri and Mississippi rivers, respectively."

 

Hmm... The west border of New Jerey is the Delaware River/Delaware Bay, and the east border is the Hudson River/Kill van Kull and the Atlantic Ocean. So, New Jersey qualifies.

You probably have to include Hawaii in there, too!

[+hukilaulau]

I read the story, and it is indeed a fascinating, unique bit of history and geography. Thanks for pointing this out!

[+MontyFam]

Florida? East coast is the ocean, west coast is a river and the ocean...

Edited January 20, 2011 by MoFryFam

[+gpsfun]

Hmm... The west border of New Jerey is the Delaware River/Delaware Bay, and the east border is the Hudson River/Kill van Kull and the Atlantic Ocean. So, New Jersey qualifies.

Actually not correct. There is a small piece of land on the east side of the Delaware River/Delaware Bay that is part of Delaware. There's a long story involved there too - but the piece of land can be easily seen on Google Maps just west of the Killcohook National Wildlife Refuge. The NWR is in New Jersey, and the adjoining land just west of it is part of Delaware.

 

An interesting piece of trivia, and a winning bar bet - if you bring your laptop with you to prove it.

[+NYPaddleCacher]

I am still waiting for my North Dakota award!!!

 

I have California...and that is just one moving cache...hilarious!!!

 

North Dakota is next on the list of souvenirs to be released. You'll probably get it in a few days.

 

If you know which moving cache is responsible for the California award go to this thread and add a response. Moun10bike is maintaining a bookmark list of locationless and moving caches that are causing souvenirs to be award to those that haven't found a cache of that type. He intends on making the list available to the developers at groundspeadk so that they can use it as a blacklist. There's really no other way to do it since moving caches don't have a unique cache type that can be used as a filter.

[+sbell111]

Florida? East coast is the ocean, west coast is a river and the ocean...

Alabama is on Florida's western border.

[+rosebud55112]

Another reason why this statement is wrong is that a good chunk of Iowas's western border (about 75 miles as the crow flies, longer as the fish swims) is actually the Big Sioux River, not the Missouri River.

[+bflentje]

Carter Lake was on the east side of the Missouri until the river did what it has always done and went where it wanted to.

A City Separated EarthCache details how this came about.

 

This cool looking Earthcache is in blatant violation of the Earthcache guidelines. You can NO LONGER demand that photos be posted unless it is specific to the lesson of the earthcache. But hey, that's a different topic.

[+Castle Mischief]

Hey, at least your state is upright in the preview image.

 

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Edited January 20, 2011 by Castle Mischief

[+GeoGeeBee]

Florida? East coast is the ocean, west coast is a river and the ocean...

Alabama is on Florida's western border.

Which doesn't contradict what sbell111 said. The Perdido River and Perdido Bay form the border between Alabama and Florida.

[+Castle Mischief]

Florida? East coast is the ocean, west coast is a river and the ocean...

Alabama is on Florida's western border.

Which doesn't contradict what sbell111 said. The Perdido River and Perdido Bay form the border between Alabama and Florida.

 

I think you mean "...what MoFryFam said".

[+MontyFam]

Righteo - Florida is bordered completely by water (east and west)

[+Harry Dolphin]

Hmm... The west border of New Jerey is the Delaware River/Delaware Bay, and the east border is the Hudson River/Kill van Kull and the Atlantic Ocean. So, New Jersey qualifies.

Actually not correct. There is a small piece of land on the east side of the Delaware River/Delaware Bay that is part of Delaware. There's a long story involved there too - but the piece of land can be easily seen on Google Maps just west of the Killcohook National Wildlife Refuge. The NWR is in New Jersey, and the adjoining land just west of it is part of Delaware.

 

An interesting piece of trivia, and a winning bar bet - if you bring your laptop with you to prove it.

 

Yes. Delaware owns the river to the Jersey shoreline (within a certain radius of some point in Delaware. (How's that for historic research?)) The land that you mention was an island. The fact that it may no longer be an island does not affect the fact that New Jersey's western border is defined by the Delaware River. So there!

[+Sioneva]

Carter Lake was on the east side of the Missouri until the river did what it has always done and went where it wanted to.

A City Separated EarthCache details how this came about.

 

This cool looking Earthcache is in blatant violation of the Earthcache guidelines. You can NO LONGER demand that photos be posted unless it is specific to the lesson of the earthcache. But hey, that's a different topic.

 

Besides, it's not even catsnfish's EC, so yelling at them doesn't accomplish anything.

[+EscapeFromFlatland]

While maybe not a big deal, the new Iowa souvenir (which I really like) isn't entirely correct. It states that "Iowa is the only state whose west and east borders are 100% formed by water — the Missouri and Mississippi rivers, respectively." However, there is a small segment of Iowa that juts across the Missouri river and "into Nebraska", so to speak. Look closely at a map of the north Omaha area and you will see "Carter Lake" Iowa. To drive from the city of Omaha to the airport, you actually pass through Iowa without ever crossing the river. There are a few Iowa caches on the west side of the Missouri river.

 

 

It also forgets the Big Sioux river by Sioux City (Sewer City), where the Missouri River curves off towards the lands of the Mandan and Hidatsa.

Edited January 20, 2011 by bramasoleiowa

[+TerraViators]

A bit off-topic, so please ecuse me. Many people believe the Red River is the southern border of Oklahoma with Texas, but the actual state line as defined by both state's legislatures is the vegetation line on the south bank of the river. The entire Red River is owned by the state of Oklahoma.

[+EscapeFromFlatland]

A bit off-topic, so please ecuse me. Many people believe the Red River is the southern border of Oklahoma with Texas, but the actual state line as defined by both state's legislatures is the vegetation line on the south bank of the river. The entire Red River is owned by the state of Oklahoma.

 

That;s one long river if it goes from Texas to Winnipeg.

Edited January 21, 2011 by bramasoleiowa

[+sbell111]

Florida? East coast is the ocean, west coast is a river and the ocean...

Alabama is on Florida's western border.

Which doesn't contradict what sbell111 said. The Perdido River and Perdido Bay form the border between Alabama and Florida.

Prior to responding to that post, I pulled up Florida's western border using Google's sat map. Zooming all the way in to 50ft on the northern part of the western border, there is no river to be found.

[Mr.Yuck]

A bit off-topic, so please ecuse me. Many people believe the Red River is the southern border of Oklahoma with Texas, but the actual state line as defined by both state's legislatures is the vegetation line on the south bank of the river. The entire Red River is owned by the state of Oklahoma.

 

That;s one long river if it goes from Texas to Winnipeg.

 

No, that's why the other one in North Dakota and Manitoba is often referred to as "The Red River of The North". In before the lock. Or at least in before Moderator intervention.

[+Isonzo Karst]

The boundary between Alabama and Florida is defined in the State Constitution as from the center of the mouth of Perdido River and thence up the center of the Perido River..."to the point of intersection with the South boundary of the State of Alabama at Latitude N 31."

The western boundary of Florida is entirely defined by the Perdido River (and yes, it still exists into Alabama).

 

Only Florida's north boundary isn't entirely defined by water.

 

"Iowa is the only state whose west and east borders are 100% formed by water — the Missouri and Mississippi rivers, respectively." The only land locked state I guess, is implied?

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Edited January 21, 2011 by Isonzo Karst

[+sbell111]

The boundary between Alabama and Florida is defined in the State Constitution as from the center of the mouth of Perdido River and thence up the center of the Perido River..."to the point of intersection with the South boundary of the State of Alabama at Latitude N 31."

The western boundary of Florida is entirely defined by the Perdido River (and yes, it still exists into Alabama).

 

Only Florida's north boundary isn't entirely defined by water.

Take a look at the 'sat' map. If there is water there, you can step over it without getting your feet wet.