+TerraViators Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 I'm curious how many people actually log their DNF's as rigorously as they log finds. I've logged every DNF since day 1. I even mark the count in the DNF log and I have a DNF coin that I visit to each log as a joke. I think I have something like 330 DNF's. Quote Link to comment
+narcissa Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 I'm curious how many people actually log their DNF's as rigorously as they log finds. I've logged every DNF since day 1. I even mark the count in the DNF log and I have a DNF coin that I visit to each log as a joke. I think I have something like 330 DNF's. 137 logged, but I have gone back and found many of those later. I always log my DNFs unless I forget, or the search was so cursory that the log would be pointless for both myself and the owner. Quote Link to comment
Bolivar Bill Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 I'm curious how many people actually log their DNF's as rigorously as they log finds. I've logged every DNF since day 1. I even mark the count in the DNF log and I have a DNF coin that I visit to each log as a joke. I think I have something like 330 DNF's. 137 logged, but I have gone back and found many of those later. I always log my DNFs unless I forget, or the search was so cursory that the log would be pointless for both myself and the owner. No idea. I rarely log DNF's as I have a pretty short attention span in some places. Most of the one's I've walked away from were in high visibility locations where I didn't feel comfortable pawing around very long. Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 I am more likely to log my DNFs than I am my finds. Quote Link to comment
+BCandMsKitty Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 (edited) We always log our DNFs, but we have no idea how many because we don't keep track of them. EDIT: Just went and counted .. we have 47 and we have logged every one! Edited October 25, 2010 by BC & MsKitty Quote Link to comment
+Isonzo Karst Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 192...I remember being psyched about crossing the 100 DNF milestone some time back. Been kinda slow since; I cache less. I mostly go for trading caches in the woods. Generally I can find 'em, if they're present. Quote Link to comment
+narcissa Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 We always log our DNFs, but we have no idea how many because we don't keep track of them. If you click on "geocaches" on your profile page, you can then select "Didn't Find It" and it tells you the total. Quote Link to comment
+The Leprechauns Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 I'm so fanatical about logging DNF's that I've bookmarked every active cache I've failed to find, and I link to that list in my forum signature below. DNF's help the cache owner assess the accuracy of their difficulty rating, and the possible need for a maintenance visit. They're not a mark of failure - to the contrary, if I found every cache I searched for, I would have gotten bored and left this game long ago. It's the risk of failure that makes success worth searching for. The linked bookmark list tells me I've logged 336 DNF's, of which 91 have not been resolved through a later find or through archival. I've resolved 98 DNF's with a later find, which I always enter in a separate new log in order to preserve the history of my activities. Around 7.3% of my cache searches end with a DNF log. I log a DNF whenever I set a "Go To" and actively search for a cache, but don't sign the log. This excludes driving up to a cache and deciding I don't want to look for it. In my mind I call those "DNA's" for "Did Not Attempt." Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Wow! You got a lot of DNFs for someone only playing for six months. I've logged 323 (half of which have been archived. Note: That doesn't mean they wre missing when I DNFed them...) I like narcissa's point: "I always log my DNFs unless I forget, or the search was so cursory that the log would be pointless for both myself and the owner." I've grown to dislike the clutter of "pointless" DNFs. They clutter up the page, and a number of DNFs may discourage cache hunters. I just did maintenance on one with three DNFs. Right where it should be. Sorry that they have no idea what a MKH is. "Didn't solve the puzzle, but we searched anyway." "Got too dark, so we gave up after a few minutes." Pointless DNFs. Quote Link to comment
+hallycat Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 174 says my page Quote Link to comment
sabrefan7 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I have 31, 1 double dnf (now archived) 11 found on the second try Quote Link to comment
+cheech gang Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 (edited) 356 DNF's. If I get out of the car and don't get a smiley it is a DNF. If I arrive on site and immediately lose interest, then it isn't. Edited October 26, 2010 by cheech gang Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I just looked this up the other day, inspired by another thread. I have logged 322, including one yesterday. Pretty strange how so many of the posters above me are right around that same number. The two people local to me who have posted to this thread should note that having 100 logged DNF's is probably a good idea. Or is probably going to be in the near future. Quote Link to comment
+TerraViators Posted October 26, 2010 Author Share Posted October 26, 2010 356 DNF's. If I get out of the car and don't get a smiley it is a DNF. If I arrive on site and immediately lose interest, then it isn't. Right. If I visit the actual GZ and hunt, then I log something. I've been to a GZ because it was at a gas station where I was filling up, etc, but I didn't hunt, so I don't record a log. Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I just looked this up the other day, inspired by another thread. I have logged 322, including one yesterday. Pretty strange how so many of the posters above me are right around that same number. The two people local to me who have posted to this thread should note that having 100 logged DNF's is probably a good idea. Or is probably going to be in the near future. Can I combine my current account with my old one. No need to drag in the socks for this one. Quote Link to comment
+John in Valley Forge Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I've got 13 logged DNFs, 3 on one particularly tough 1.5/1 hide that I eventually found, so that is 11 unique caches. Of those, I have eventually found 4, so that is 7 still listed as DNF. On one of those, I got a not-so-coveted First To Fail. I found it, and have visited it on several occasions. I just can't reach the darn thing. I love my DNFs, most of the logs for them are more interesting than my finds. I have 86 logged finds and 2 placed. Quote Link to comment
+jomouse Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 96 as of 25Oct10 Quote Link to comment
+Ambrosia Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Hm...I only have about 60 DNF's. That seems like a small number next to everyone else. Quote Link to comment
+Nicodemus3 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 142 DNF's along with my 441 finds. I've posted up to 4 DNF's on a single cache in the past. Quote Link to comment
+The Leprechauns Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 The two people local to me who have posted to this thread should note that having 100 logged DNF's is probably a good idea. Or is probably going to be in the near future. I'm detecting a faint whiff of "unpublishable challenge cache." DNF's are not a "positive Geocaching achievement." I disagree with that interpretation, on the grounds that encouraging people to log their DNF's is a good thing. Quote Link to comment
+87preludea20a3 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 158 DNF's posted. Although i know for sure there have been more than that. Quote Link to comment
+escomag Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 37 DNF's out of almost 500 finds. The only ones I do not DNF, are those which I plan to return to soon, and that I did not find on my first, or second, etc, .. attempts. Quote Link to comment
+Touchstone Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 141, although I'm not what you'd call "fanatical" about Logging them. I'll try and be better. You guys are so inspirational Quote Link to comment
+dfx Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 209. logging more now than i used to thanks to the oregon field notes. Quote Link to comment
+Casting Crowns Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Hey, William! Ummm.....I've logged 151 but, as mentioned earlier, I've gone back to find some of them. Quote Link to comment
+FunnyNose Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I currently have 820 DNFs My DNFs I had to appeal to Groundspeak more than a few times to get my DNFs reinstated. Quote Link to comment
+Team Dromomania Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I only log DNF's when I think I've searched the area well. A muggle showing up 5 minutes into my search won't count as a DNF. As of today I have 558 DNF logs. Quote Link to comment
+Sol seaker Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 98 Of course I have returned and found most of those later. There are even a few of those that are repeats on the same cache. There is one that disappears every time I finally go and look for it. Every time I try to find it, I log a DNF and then no one else finds it and the owner disables it. It sees me coming and runs I guess. It's really important to me to log them. I know the owner can't keep track of whether or not it disappears or whether it is rated correctly if I don't log them. I don't take it as a failure, in fact I take it as a big success that I remember to log them!! Quote Link to comment
+hydnsek Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 421 logged DNFs. Quote Link to comment
+E = Mc2 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I always log my DNFs when I feel like I've given the cache a search that should have found it. I'm still waiting for a DNA log... I have 212 logged DNF's. I have no idea how many I've gone back and found at a later date. Roughly 11% of my cache logs (Finds and DNFs) are DNFs. Since we're discussing stats, 12% of my total finds have been FTF's. Quote Link to comment
+Scubasonic Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I'm curious how many people actually log their DNF's as rigorously as they log finds. I've logged every DNF since day 1. I even mark the count in the DNF log and I have a DNF coin that I visit to each log as a joke. I think I have something like 330 DNF's. 15 DNFs Scubasonic Quote Link to comment
+The Blorenges Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 73 DNFs If we get to the location but don't start searching for some reason or other then we log a Note, so you could probably add 20+ notes to that 73. MrsB Quote Link to comment
+redsox_mark Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 172 DNFs for me (1021 finds). That's about 11% of my total (Find + DNF) logs. Quote Link to comment
+birder428 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 65 DNFs and 752 finds. If I only get a half-hearted look (too many muggles, for example) I'll write a note rather than take a DNF. Around 20 of those DNFs are now disabled. Quote Link to comment
+Waazdag Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 133 Logged DNFs and 1016 Founds... several DNF's are on the same caches though... I have no qualms about logging a DNF. It is accurate and gives feedback to the CO as to whether their cache may or may not be rated properly for difficulty, or that there may be issues with their cache. Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 172 DNFs for me (1021 finds). That's about 11% of my total (Find + DNF) logs. 142 DNF logs for me. There was a thread like this a year or so ago that asked for both DNF and Find numbers. I added up the numbers for 30 or so responses and came up with a 10-11% DNFs to Finds. Quote Link to comment
+SeekerOfTheWay Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 48 DNFs logged for me. I resolved quite a few of them. I got 5 yesterday. Booo Quote Link to comment
+FloridaFour Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 11 so far. I DNF one for the second time yesterday, after getting a clue from the owner, should I count it twice? I only have 14 smilies....hopefully my ratio will get better soon! Quote Link to comment
+BoMS Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 98 DNF and 1564 found logs (6%) Quote Link to comment
+redsox_mark Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 11 so far. I DNF one for the second time yesterday, after getting a clue from the owner, should I count it twice? I only have 14 smilies....hopefully my ratio will get better soon! Yea, I have improved (though still getting a significant number of DNFs). After 100 finds, 26 DNFs. (> 20%) After 500 finds, 79 DNFs. (~13.5%) After 1021 finds, 127 DNFs. (~11%) Quote Link to comment
+GeoGeeBee Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I have 131 found, and 28 logged DNF's. That means I've logged a DNF on nearly 18% of the caches for which I've searched. (No, not 21%; I've FOUND 131, I've SEARCHED for 131+28=159. 28/159 = 17.6%.) Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 172 DNFs for me (1021 finds). That's about 11% of my total (Find + DNF) logs. 142 DNF logs for me. There was a thread like this a year or so ago that asked for both DNF and Find numbers. I added up the numbers for 30 or so responses and came up with a 10-11% DNFs to Finds. I'm at a whopping 15.24%. And I'll bet I have a couple dozen at least unlogged. Occasionally I'll forget, but this is usually when a cache sounds decent on paper and aerial reconn, but I arrive to find a teen party pit, or hypodermic needles and condoms, or a homeless camp. Then I roll with the "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" credo. Quote Link to comment
+deercreekth Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I've logged 89 DNFs and 627 finds. I'm not as good about logging DNFs as I should be. Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 65 DNFs to 498 finds. Some that I didn't find I later found. Some I did not find more than once. 46% of the DNFs are now archived or disabled (most because the cache was missing). Quote Link to comment
+bflentje Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I try to log every DNF. And when I go back and actually find the cache on a subsequent visit, the Found It gets its own brand new log. I am proud of my 467 DNFs. And anyone who is bother by the prospect of logging a DNF must worry too much. Quote Link to comment
+MoonCatKDT & Peanut Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I'm just starting, and in reading a lot of the newb posts, a lot of people seem to have a good amount of DNFs in their first bit. So far i'm 11/11 finds. One we got to GZ and there was people everywhere as it was in a busy parking lot, so we decided to go back at night. I don't consider that a DNF because we really didnt try. I'm actually excited for my first DNF because that would pose a good challenge, and i looovve challenges!! Quote Link to comment
+Ladybug Kids Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 (edited) 362 DNFs (a little less than 10% of all hunts). I log all my cache attempts and keep the logs intact even after later finiding the cache. Some cache pages have more than one DNF log from me. Edited October 26, 2010 by Ladybug Kids Quote Link to comment
+GeoGeeBee Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 So far i'm 11/11 finds. One we got to GZ and there was people everywhere as it was in a busy parking lot, so we decided to go back at night. I don't consider that a DNF because we really didnt try. I would have logged the DNF on that one anyway. A DNF log that says "Arrived at GZ shortly after noon, there were too many muggles around for us to search properly. Will try again later," provides useful information for subsequent searchers. Quote Link to comment
+Ike 13 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 136 logged DNF's. I also have lots of notes of caches I DNF'd but felt that I did not search enough due to some factor (time, muggles, darkness, etc). I've been slack more recently due to more power runs and etc. Quote Link to comment
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