+2Dolphins Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 Hello everyone, this is my first post so please be gentle. It seems to me that there are really two distinctly different types of travel bugs. One I call personal travel bugs the other I call traditional travel bugs. Personal travel bugs are defined by me as bugs that never leave the possession of one person and are logged with every cache that person visits. Traditional travel bugs are (again defined by me) as bugs that go from person to person cache by cache. Although I think people should be able to have personal travel bugs, I think they should be logged differently then regular travel bugs. The top bugs listed in “Top 10 Traveled Bugs” are all personal travel bugs. When I first looked at the travel bug page I wanted to see all the travel bugs that have gone great distance by the traditional means of cache by cache, person to person. I was really disappointed that I had to fish through all the personal travel bugs to find the top traditional travel bugs. In that way the tracking of personal travel bugs has somewhat obscured real travel bugs that have accomplished great distances with the help of a lot of geocachers. I think the personal travel distance with a map would be a great feature on the "My Cache Page" (maybe a new charter member feature) but I personally do not like seeing it logged on a travel bug. In the words of Dennis Miller “Of course this is just my opinion, I could be wrong.” What do you guys think? 2Dolphins Quote Link to comment
+Ttepee Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 2dolphins... I agree.. I really kind of gave up looking at the top 10 travel bugs awhile ago when the personal bug thing started catching on, it's pretty useless now. I don't really understand the added benefit of a personal bug either with the maps the way they are.... unless you really travel far everything just kind of sits in a lump on top of itself... but the miles add so I guess that's what people are looking for....I dunno. Quote Link to comment
PuzzleBug Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 Yep. The "top 10" bugs list became mostly useless except perhaps a game between those few at the top. I'm not sure what the solution should be, though. You'd have to have a disqualification flag for a bug, and perhaps having the same person move a bug more than 20% of the time would disqualify a bug from the top ten list. Hmm.. maybe not a bad idea. Dougc Quote Link to comment
Rubbertoe Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 Perhaps one of the people that uses a Personal Travel Bug could post here... cuz I still can't undertand the reasoning behind doing that. If you are concerned with how far you've gone between caches, where you've gone, or whatever such stats - there are better ways to do it than with a travel bug. Looks a bit complicated... check out the logs for the personal bugs - looks like lots of pointing and clicking. Rubbertoe - Webcam - Image Archives --== http://www.bigfoot.com/~rbatina ==-- Quote Link to comment
+Ttepee Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 Here is a thread where it was discussed a bit back...seems like that's when alot of it caught on. http://opentopic.Groundspeak.com/0/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1750973553&f=8080979883&m=6330931983 Quote Link to comment
Moun10Bike Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Ttepee:Here is a thread where it was discussed a bit back...seems like that's when alot of it caught on. Nice going, Tteepee -- with that added advertisement, now even more people will start doing it! Moun10Bike's Geocaching Pages Quote Link to comment
Craven MaCree Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 I am also new to this listserv. I also found it unusual to have people "cache" and "uncache" their own bugs and I agree there should be at least two categories. I left my first bug last week and hope it has an exciting journey but it'll never be mentioned in the "most traveled" category. I would also like to create new categories like "most extreme caches visited", "historical sites", "mysterious places","Urban sites" etc. Mileage should not be the only criteria. This is a great sport. I hope to see lots of experiments. Craven MaCree MaCree Quote Link to comment
+Ttepee Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 Moun10bike...sheesh... what's a gal to do?...Markwell must be rubbing off on me ;-) They asked for people to speak up...rather than get that whole thing going again I was hoping to avoid it...ya know...been there done that ;-) It didn't get me the first time around...now after seeing the problems with it I like it even less. As much as the failures suck I think we should admit when they happen ;-)...heheh especially when we weren't in on them in the first place. Quote Link to comment
+infosponge Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 My personal bug, The Poky Little Puppy, http://www.geocaching.com/track/track_detail.asp?ID=767 started out as a real travel bug, and made it from Florida to Kansas before I had him mailed back to me. I had a few other bugs go MIA, and wasn't willing to see Poky vanish too, because he was a hand-made gift from a friend. I was pretty optimisitc when I started him on his journey. Quote Link to comment
+mikemtn Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 I think the this idea really took off when Jeremy started posting the Top Ten. There was a couple before that but when the list started I had the # 7 on the list at 11,000+ miles. Now where's he at? _______________________________ Mike Quote Link to comment
+GeoScouter Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Rubbertoe:Perhaps one of the people that uses a Personal Travel Bug could post here... cuz I still can't undertand the reasoning behind doing that. I use a Personal Travel Bug. Travel Bug I use it to show the same logs at caches I visit. It's a whole lot easier when my friends want to see what caches I done. Not all of them are geocachers but are interested in the places I visit. The other way they need to click on each cache and look to find my posting. Here it's all in one place. I don't care about the mileage. I don't pay any attention to that. It really meanless when you use a Personal Travel Bug. If there was a easier way to display just the logs for a user I would reuse this tag and send out another real Travel Bug. Steve GeoScouter Quote Link to comment
Team Dragon Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 I'm not going to deny that I like my mileage. Duh, huh? I use it to keep track of the overseas caching. If there was a personal map then I probably wouldn't have set it up. I haven't taken it on two trips that would have pushed the mileage numbers over 100k. It's not like I regret it either, because it's not a contest. quote: Dougc:Yep. The "top 10" bugs list became mostly useless except perhaps a game between those few at the top. Not really, some of those bugs are normal travellers and some are personal. On one trip to Singapore, I tried to get the Oliver bug to bring it on it's last leg around the world. The then holder wanted to place it elsewhere though. quote:Rubbertoe: If you are concerned with how far you've gone between caches, where you've gone, or whatever such stats - there are better ways to do it than with a travel bug. If you know of a way that's just as easy, I'm all ears. Quote Link to comment
Rubbertoe Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 quote:Originally posted by GeoScouter:I use it to show the same logs at caches I visit. It's a whole lot easier when my friends want to see what caches I done ... Here it's all in one place. I see... this makes a little more sense, the way you've logged information on your bug - the few that I've looked at before, they just have: user left bug in cache a user retrieved bug from cache a user left bug in cache b user retrieved bug from cache b etc... with no info to go along with it. Ah - and you just copy the same log for the cache as you have in your bug log. Good idea. I enjoyed the pic of your buddy struggling to get up that hill, btw. Rubbertoe - Webcam - Image Archives --== http://www.bigfoot.com/~rbatina ==-- Quote Link to comment
Rubbertoe Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Team Dragon:If you know of a way that's just as easy, I'm all ears. Hrm... no... not as easy, I suppose. I've got probably close to a dozen mapping/GPS applications on this PC, and I'm sure that more than one of them would do the job - but no, probably not as easily as a bug. Rubbertoe - Webcam - Image Archives --== http://www.bigfoot.com/~rbatina ==-- Quote Link to comment
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