+narcissa Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Clearly, we're doing this wrong. The word "cache" means "A hiding place used especially for storing provisions." All fun and creative geocaches must be archived now. A geocache is a container of provisions at known coordinates. Period. Quote Link to comment
+narcissa Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 Please do not derail this discussion with your personal feelings about good and bad provisions. Quote Link to comment
+Coldgears Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 AHA we have a new ashinkes on are hands! Quote Link to comment
+narcissa Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 AHA we have a new ashinkes on are hands! Are you accusing me of dumpster diving? Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Clearly, we're doing this wrong. The word "cache" means "A hiding place used especially for storing provisions." All fun and creative geocaches must be archived now. A geocache is a container of provisions at known coordinates. Period. You lost me at 'especially'. Quote Link to comment
+Coldgears Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 AHA we have a new ashinkes on are hands! Are you accusing me of dumpster diving? No, from your posts you've always been a nice person who never spammed. Then all of a sudden you do this to prove your point in an argument. This is something ashinkes would do, something I would never expect from you. None the less it is actually pretty amusing so I can't say it was a bad thing. I don't think of you differently. I probably don't post enough for you to think of me at all... Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 narcissa and ashinkes sure do share a lot of letters. Quote Link to comment
+narcissa Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 No, from your posts you've always been a nice person who never spammed. Then all of a sudden you do this to prove your point in an argument. This is something ashinkes would do, something I would never expect from you. None the less it is actually pretty amusing so I can't say it was a bad thing. I don't think of you differently. I probably don't post enough for you to think of me at all... To be completely honest, I did it to make fun of someone else's argument. Quote Link to comment
+scaramedic Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 When I hear the word provisions I think of.... and Great now geocaches will have their own booth at every county fair. The will all be bejeweled mason jars with blue ribbons on them. Quote Link to comment
+geodarts Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 This also raises another crucial issue: if ammo cans hold provisions can they truly be called "ammo" cans? Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 They are still ammo cans. They have been re-purposed but that doesn't change what they are. Quote Link to comment
+CTYankee9 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Going to have to agree with narcissa on this one. And since they are referred to as GEOcaches, the swag provisions shall only consist of parts for that now defunct line of GM cars. Quote Link to comment
+trailhound1 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Adv. 1. especially - to a distinctly greater extent or degree than is common But not only. The use of "than is common" means that there are other possibilities for the use of a cache. Quote Link to comment
+tozainamboku Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Clearly, we're doing this wrong. The word "cache" means "A hiding place used especially for storing provisions." All fun and creative geocaches must be archived now. A geocache is a container of provisions at known coordinates. Period. I think you would do better to insist that Waymarks only be a sign or symbol marked in a prominent position in an off-road location to show the track of a footpath or route. There are only a few categories that are truly waymarks: milestones, ANWB Paddenstoelen (Dutch bicycle route waymarks), Daniel Boone Trail Markers, and perhaps a few others. Maybe the rest should be listed as virtual geocaches Quote Link to comment
jholly Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 No, from your posts you've always been a nice person who never spammed. Then all of a sudden you do this to prove your point in an argument. This is something ashinkes would do, something I would never expect from you. None the less it is actually pretty amusing so I can't say it was a bad thing. I don't think of you differently. I probably don't post enough for you to think of me at all... To be completely honest, I did it to make fun of someone else's argument. I did that once and I was accused of being a troll. So here you go ... Quote Link to comment
+Too Tall John Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Adv. 1. especially - to a distinctly greater extent or degree than is common But not only. The use of "than is common" means that there are other possibilities for the use of a cache. Hey, don't you come in here pedaling your logic and reason! That kinda stuff isn't welcome here! Quote Link to comment
+Ecylram Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 No, from your posts you've always been a nice person who never spammed. Then all of a sudden you do this to prove your point in an argument. This is something ashinkes would do, something I would never expect from you. None the less it is actually pretty amusing so I can't say it was a bad thing. I don't think of you differently. I probably don't post enough for you to think of me at all... To be completely honest, I did it to make fun of someone else's argument. Nah, lie to me. Quote Link to comment
+Ecylram Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 They are still ammo cans. They have been re-purposed but that doesn't change what they are. They can change if they truly WANT to change. Quote Link to comment
+dfx Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 maybe in narcissa's twisted version of english (the one where "cache" can also refer to a certain piece of information) "especially" means the same thing as "only". i guess we'll never know. Quote Link to comment
+uxorious Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 A geocache is a container of provisions at known coordinates. Period. No, you were right the first time. A "cache" stores provisions. We are not hiding Caches, We are hiding "Geocaches". Two different things. Quote Link to comment
+LukeTrocity Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I just hid a lock and lock full of canned beets. Hope your happy! Quote Link to comment
+narcissa Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 Adv. 1. especially - to a distinctly greater extent or degree than is common But not only. The use of "than is common" means that there are other possibilities for the use of a cache. No, there are not. I am the infallible geocaching objectivist, and a CACHE is a CONTAINER OF PROVISIONS, therefore a GEOCACHE is a CONTAINER OF PROVISIONS at particular location defined by GPS coordinates. THERE CAN BE NO OTHER WAY. Y'all can take your mystery geocaches, multi-caches, and any other PERVERSIONS of the term CACHE and SCRAM. Quote Link to comment
jholly Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Adv. 1. especially - to a distinctly greater extent or degree than is common But not only. The use of "than is common" means that there are other possibilities for the use of a cache. No, there are not. I am the infallible geocaching objectivist, and a CACHE is a CONTAINER OF PROVISIONS, therefore a GEOCACHE is a CONTAINER OF PROVISIONS at particular location defined by GPS coordinates. THERE CAN BE NO OTHER WAY. Y'all can take your mystery geocaches, multi-caches, and any other PERVERSIONS of the term CACHE and SCRAM. Oh, dear, what are we going to do with all these caches in computers full of bits? Quote Link to comment
+narcissa Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 Oh, dear, what are we going to do with all these caches in computers full of bits? They don't count. Because I say so. Quote Link to comment
+msrubble Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Do hamsters count as provisions? Or does that violate the rule on food in caches? Quote Link to comment
+narcissa Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 Do hamsters count as provisions? Or does that violate the rule on food in caches? Since the guidelines that are in place now clearly refer to some sort of game that violates the pure definition of cache, consider them void. All provisions, particularly food and hamsters, are welcome and encouraged. Take the environment into consideration when placing hamsters and other provisions. Hamsters may need to be canned or freeze-dried depending on the climate. Quote Link to comment
Pup Patrol Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I'm going to say that I'm in agreement with you, because I don't want you to think that I'm provoking an argument with you. Quote Link to comment
+Setan Meyacha Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Adv. 1. especially - to a distinctly greater extent or degree than is common But not only. The use of "than is common" means that there are other possibilities for the use of a cache. No, there are not. I am the infallible geocaching objectivist, and a CACHE is a CONTAINER OF PROVISIONS, therefore a GEOCACHE is a CONTAINER OF PROVISIONS at particular location defined by GPS coordinates. THERE CAN BE NO OTHER WAY. Y'all can take your mystery geocaches, multi-caches, and any other PERVERSIONS of the term CACHE and SCRAM. Hum? The mountainmen cached beaver pelts; guess those could be construed to be provisions if a person stumbled across them and were hungry enough. Quote Link to comment
+M 5 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I ate the original can of beans! Quote Link to comment
Pup Patrol Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Do hamsters count as provisions? Or does that violate the rule on food in caches? Since the guidelines that are in place now clearly refer to some sort of game that violates the pure definition of cache, consider them void. All provisions, particularly food and hamsters, are welcome and encouraged. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine Take the environment into consideration when placing hamsters and other provisions. Hamsters may need to be canned or freeze-dried depending on the climate. Wouldn't canned ham....sters be "spam"? waiting with baited breath for the wiki definition of "spam" to be posted. Quote Link to comment
+narcissa Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine I'm sorry to tell you, but you are incorrect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fashion Wouldn't canned ham....sters be "spam"? waiting with baited breath for the wiki definition of "spam" to be posted. Spamsters. Obviously. Quote Link to comment
+jeffrae Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 [ I did that once and I was accused of being a troll. So here you go ... Hey !! I found that cache. But the troll wasn't there at the time. Quote Link to comment
+TABjuggler Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 This also raises another crucial issue: if ammo cans hold provisions can they truly be called "ammo" cans? You can and are especially encouraged to use provisions as projectiles, so yes, I would say calling them "ammo" cans is still highly encouraged. Quote Link to comment
+power69 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 This also raises another crucial issue: if ammo cans hold provisions can they truly be called "ammo" cans? yes! specially the one i got a loaded 22 pistol out of. ok so the ammo was in the gun but the gun was in the can so technically it was still an "ammocan" Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 The word "cache" means "A hiding place used especially for storing provisions." Of course this opens the door to discuss which definition of "provisions" you mean. Supplies or stipulations? If we can get a group consensus that, in this context, we're talking supplies, then one could argue that tiny scraps of paper count as supplies. As to the mystery/multi/etc, so long as the final still has provisions, shouldn't that qualify? Quote Link to comment
+GeoGeeBee Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 No, there are not. I am the infallible geocaching objectivist, and a CACHE is a CONTAINER OF PROVISIONS, therefore a GEOCACHE is a CONTAINER OF PROVISIONS at particular location defined by GPS coordinates. THERE CAN BE NO OTHER WAY. Y'all can take your mystery geocaches, multi-caches, and any other PERVERSIONS of the term CACHE and SCRAM. Fundamentalists are annoying. And boring. Boring and annoying. It doesn't matter if they are religious fundamentalists, Libertarian fundamentalists, or geocaching fundamentalists. All boring and annoying. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 No, there are not. I am the infallible geocaching objectivist, and a CACHE is a CONTAINER OF PROVISIONS, therefore a GEOCACHE is a CONTAINER OF PROVISIONS at particular location defined by GPS coordinates. THERE CAN BE NO OTHER WAY. Y'all can take your mystery geocaches, multi-caches, and any other PERVERSIONS of the term CACHE and SCRAM. Fundamentalists are annoying. And boring. Boring and annoying. It doesn't matter if they are religious fundamentalists, Libertarian fundamentalists, or geocaching fundamentalists. All boring and annoying. Fundamentally, I agree with both you and bflentje. Quote Link to comment
+roziecakes Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I don't have anything particularly witty or clever to add, but this thread made my morning! Quote Link to comment
+terrkan78 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Theoretically I could hide a cache of cash in my attic and not befoul the definition of cache, yes? So could I hide a geocache full of cash and not spoil anything? Better yet, could someone will hide one of those for me to find? Quote Link to comment
+Gamaliel Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 When I hear the word provisions I think of.... When I see that, I think of.... Quote Link to comment
4wheelin_fool Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 The word "cache" means "A hiding place used especially for storing provisions." Not to argue with you, but they pronounce it a little differently when referring to inmates in prison during the rubber glove check. Quote Link to comment
+Ecylram Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 No, there are not. I am the infallible geocaching objectivist, and a CACHE is a CONTAINER OF PROVISIONS, therefore a GEOCACHE is a CONTAINER OF PROVISIONS at particular location defined by GPS coordinates. THERE CAN BE NO OTHER WAY. Y'all can take your mystery geocaches, multi-caches, and any other PERVERSIONS of the term CACHE and SCRAM. Fundamentalists are annoying. And boring. Boring and annoying. It doesn't matter if they are religious fundamentalists, Libertarian fundamentalists, or geocaching fundamentalists. All boring and annoying. Well you don't have to be a fundamentalist about fundamentalism. Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I just hid a lock and lock full of canned beets. Hope your happy! Great-in 10 years you can trot it back out and carry it around to mega events and everyone will bow down and worship the unoriginal box-o-beets. Oh, dear, what are we going to do with all these caches in computers full of bits? They don't count. Because I say so. When narcissacaching.com is available it will matter. You can make whatever rules guidelines you like and people will listen. Or list their geocaches somewhere else. No, there are not. I am the infallible geocaching objectivist, and a CACHE is a CONTAINER OF PROVISIONS, therefore a GEOCACHE is a CONTAINER OF PROVISIONS at particular location defined by GPS coordinates. THERE CAN BE NO OTHER WAY. Y'all can take your mystery geocaches, multi-caches, and any other PERVERSIONS of the term CACHE and SCRAM. Fundamentalists are annoying. And boring. Boring and annoying. It doesn't matter if they are religious fundamentalists, Libertarian fundamentalists, or geocaching fundamentalists. All boring and annoying. Fundamentally, I agree with both you and bflentje. Finally a voice of reason in this thread. Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 YAWN... I see your yawn and raise you one thinly veiled attempt to release intestinal gas in a quiet and nondescript manor. *squeak* Quote Link to comment
+DragonsWest Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Clearly, we're doing this wrong. The word "cache" means "A hiding place used especially for storing provisions." All fun and creative geocaches must be archived now. A geocache is a container of provisions at known coordinates. Period. I live on digital fishes and squeeze water from soggy logs for moisture. Job done. Quote Link to comment
+u.rusty Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 ...The word "cache" means "A hiding place used especially for storing provisions." Geocaches are a hiding place for storing provisions...geocaching game provisions! Quote Link to comment
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