+jhuoni Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I do all of my caching alone. Probably a bad idea, but my wife can not physically handle some of the terrain, and I (sad but true) don't have any friends or family near by. Here is my question for all you "seasoned cachers": Besides the normal things like a GPS, Water, Walking Stick, and DEET, what "tools" do you carry to make caching easier or safer? Like I said, I'm alone and have a lot of time to think while I'm crashing through the underbrush. Quote Link to comment
+Ike 13 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I did a majority of caching alone my first year. Good shoes, GPS, pen, and water bottle. I have a couple more things in my car. If you want to cache with others then make some GEOfriends by going to events. This year I'm 50/50 on caching alone. Quote Link to comment
+Charlie Fingers Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 A pen or two, small swag to exchange, pruning shears to cut thorny plants that want grab clothes. sunglasses, a hat, cell phone, and an extra set of clothes in case I find a nice muddy area to fall in to. (This was from experience.) Quote Link to comment
GOF's Sock Puppet Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I prefer to cache alone for the most part. With one or two others isn't bad. Any more than that and it gets to be no fun. Quote Link to comment
+Ramona Retired Snipe Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I carry a set of sharp needle tweezers for removing stubborn logs and re-rolling nano log sheets. Also an extendable magnet. I also keep some black electrical tape for cache maintenance or placing caches. I use my walking stick as an overhead tool by using same electrical tape to secure a cut water bottle to dislodge overhead hanging caches and replace them. Quote Link to comment
+GeoGeeBee Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 GPS-enabled cell phone -- in my case, a Blackberry Curve. I had my cell phone provider turn on the Family Locator service. That way if I disappear, my wife can find out where I am and send help. Quote Link to comment
GOF's Sock Puppet Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 GPS-enabled cell phone -- in my case, a Blackberry Curve. I had my cell phone provider turn on the Family Locator service. That way if I disappear, my wife can find out where I am and send help. Or not. Make sure you never go caching in the middle of a fight. Quote Link to comment
+Juicepig Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 hmm, How big of a bear are you comfortable fighting? Human body can go about 3 weeks without food if it needs to. you wont last more then a day without water though, in some areas less. Absolute necessity when i go on long hikes: GPS, Pencil, water. Anything else is bonus. Quote Link to comment
GOF's Sock Puppet Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 hmm, How big of a bear are you comfortable fighting? Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) If I'm going off the road and into the woods, I bring everything necessary to survive a night or two outdoors, keeping the season in mind. Yeah my pack is on the heavy side and I probably will never need the bivy shelter, water treatment tabs, extra food, extra warm clothing, survival whistle, etc. but in the event something bad happens, it's there. Edited September 1, 2010 by briansnat Quote Link to comment
MisterEFQ Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 This thing has come in handy a few times, and you can fold it up. Quote Link to comment
GOF's Sock Puppet Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I don't think I'd call it a caching tool. Quote Link to comment
+The Jester Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I always recommend carrying the 10 Essentials: Extra Food, Extra Clothes, Map, Compass, Flashlight (+ batteries), Sunglasses, Matches, Firestarter, Knife and First Aid kit. Quote Link to comment
+Twitch Hugs Trees Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I have a similar question... I primarily cache alone and in an urban setting. I live in a rather large suburb, but it has a lot of "open space" land that is basically fields and trees, or protected wetlands. Being young and female, I'm constantly vigilant but here's my question: what kind of tools do you carry for safety? I've been considering buying pepper spray or something similar, but I'm severely asthmatic and if I sprayed an attacker I would probably incapacitate myself as well. The reason I ask is because I was out looking for a cache off of a bike trail, in a large open field. There's a lot of trees, and it's about .25 mi from the areas where people using the trail usually go. I walked into the field, but it's so easy for someone to hide and so isolated that it struck me as the kind of place you hear about on those true-crime shows that rapists/serial-killers/psychopaths hide out or dump bodies. I didn't search for that cache, and I'm hesitant to go back without something with me for protection. I'm sure if I had someone to cache with I wouldn't be afraid, but out there alone is just too creepy. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 pruning shears to cut thorny plants that want grab clothes You are kidding, aren't you? Please say you are kidding. That was funny, as in "ha! ha!", right? Right??? right? Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 GPS-enabled cell phone -- in my case, a Blackberry Curve. I had my cell phone provider turn on the Family Locator service. That way if I disappear, my wife can find out where I am and send help. Or not. Make sure you never go caching in the middle of a fight. Hey, he didn't state if the help was for him, or for her, did he? She might "know people", if you know what I mean. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Actually, while all of these answers (except for the pruning shears and maybe the vodka) are correct, a lot has to do with where you are caching. A busy bicycle trail would have very different requirements than the Appalachian Trail, for example. Driving from city park to city park vs. a climb in the San Juan mountains would require very different gear. Its like comparing kiwi fruit with pears. Quote Link to comment
+The Jester Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 pruning shears to cut thorny plants that want grab clothes You are kidding, aren't you? Please say you are kidding. That was funny, as in "ha! ha!", right? Right??? right? I also carry pruning shears to clear blackberry brambles from trails, that's just some basic trail maintainence. I do the same on the bike along bike trails. Quote Link to comment
+debaere Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I always recommend carrying the 10 Essentials: Extra Food, Extra Clothes, Map, Compass, Flashlight (+ batteries), Sunglasses, Matches, Firestarter, Knife and First Aid kit. I would also add to this a whistle. If you find yourself immobile and out of sight, blasting on a whistle can alert people nearby to your location. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 pruning shears to cut thorny plants that want grab clothes You are kidding, aren't you? Please say you are kidding. That was funny, as in "ha! ha!", right? Right??? right? I also carry pruning shears to clear blackberry brambles from trails, that's just some basic trail maintainence. I do the same on the bike along bike trails. OK, first, please let me state that I personally have zero problem with someone clipping back a plant. They grow. It is what they do best. If not this year, then next. But the plants are not the problem here. The problem is people. Most of all, THE person. The one that says if you may, or may not hide caches in the areas that they manage. Carrying pruning shears, machetes, chain saws, Agent Orange, Round-Up, etc. does not portray the image that we are trying to portray, guys and gals. Just don't do it, OK? You are tough. You can manage the blackberry brambles without shears. I know that you can!! Quote Link to comment
+Ecylram Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I have a similar question... I primarily cache alone and in an urban setting. I live in a rather large suburb, but it has a lot of "open space" land that is basically fields and trees, or protected wetlands. Being young and female, I'm constantly vigilant but here's my question: what kind of tools do you carry for safety? I've been considering buying pepper spray or something similar, but I'm severely asthmatic and if I sprayed an attacker I would probably incapacitate myself as well. Best safety device for you is to bring a trusted friend. You're far less likely to have a 'problem' if there are two of you. As for Pepper Spray... It works, but only if you have in hand which is unlikely if you're holding a GPSr. Even without a GPSr, the ladies I know who carry pepper spray generally are real bad at remembering to walk with it in their hand. Digging one out of a purse is not a good option in an emergency. Quote Link to comment
+thecaswellfamily Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I have a similar question... I primarily cache alone and in an urban setting. I live in a rather large suburb, but it has a lot of "open space" land that is basically fields and trees, or protected wetlands. Being young and female, I'm constantly vigilant but here's my question: what kind of tools do you carry for safety? I've been considering buying pepper spray or something similar, but I'm severely asthmatic and if I sprayed an attacker I would probably incapacitate myself as well. Best safety device for you is to bring a trusted friend. You're far less likely to have a 'problem' if there are two of you. As for Pepper Spray... It works, but only if you have in hand which is unlikely if you're holding a GPSr. Even without a GPSr, the ladies I know who carry pepper spray generally are real bad at remembering to walk with it in their hand. Digging one out of a purse is not a good option in an emergency. I got a great little pepper-spray thingy at Big 5 that is on a keychain with a quick-release attachment. I put the keychain on a caribeaner clip and keep it clipped to my beltloop or backpack strap... one quick tug and it is ready to use (I have practiced tugging it off and aiming it to improve my reaction time). I have only had to brandish it once, when caching alone, but it was enough to scare off the creep (it may have helped that I had my cell phone in the other hand with my finger on the 911 quick-call button). That incident scared me pretty good, and I didn't cache for a couple of months after that, but I was proud that I stared him down and ran him off. Now I try to take along a friend, or better yet my big tough-guy hubby, but the little pink pepper-spray ALWAYS comes along too. Quote Link to comment
+fizzymagic Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 A pen. Always bring a pen. Otherwise you may need to sign the logs in blood. Quote Link to comment
+Dragery Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 My grabber ToTTs for high up caches, I never leave home without em! Quote Link to comment
+USMCGecko Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I have a Tackle Backpack kit that contains survival gear and cache maintenance items. Some items can serve double duty. Survival stuff Large Knife Cell phone Snack Bars First Aid Kit Extra Clothes/socks Bug Spray Rope Hand Crank Flashlight Water Tablets/Water bottle Firestarter Wetwipes Carabiners Cache Maintenance Stuff Camo Fusion Paint Camo Tape Empty plastic bags Rare Earth Magnets New Logs Log containers Small Bungee cords Golf Pencils Swag stuff and personal coins I know I'm forgetting something. Quote Link to comment
+lvpotter Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I also cache alone and often carry a can of bear spray and wear snake gaiters. Even though I may only be a few miles from civilization, Black bears and rattlesnakes are real problems around here. When I'm alone on the trail the additional bulk is truly minimal when compared to the defense they offer if I stumble into a problem. I've encountered both of these creatures several times but -- thankfully -- I've never had to rely on either the spray or the gaiters. I got the gaiters from Cablea's 20+ years ago. If I go somewhere without good cell coverage I also take an frs/gmrs radio and leave a note in the corner of my windshield saying what channel I'm on. I use radios powered by AA batteries so my spare gps batteries also work in the walkie-talkies. Quote Link to comment
OwlJones Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) I have a similar question... I primarily cache alone and in an urban setting. I live in a rather large suburb, but it has a lot of "open space" land that is basically fields and trees, or protected wetlands. Being young and female, I'm constantly vigilant but here's my question: what kind of tools do you carry for safety? Being vigilant is fine, but it won't save you should someone wish to do you harm. In many cases neither does a call to 911, especially if you're hunting off the beaten path. "Big tough guys" are good too, but they aren't bullet proof and a crazed meth-head isn't afraid of anyone. I'm not trying to scare anyone or anything like that, but people should know that it CAN happen to you - anytime, anywhere. The best way to make sure you are safe in any environment is to legally carry a handgun ( if your state allows) and get some training on it's proper use and safety. You should be mentally prepared to defend your life, and know and abide by the laws in your state regarding the carry of a weapon. If you can't or won't carry a firearm, then pepper spray is the next best thing. I recommend one with multiple bursts. All thins considered, getting a little on you and having an asthma attack would probably not be the worst thing that could happen should some low-life want to do you harm. In my family, we prefer Glock's. A Glock 27SF .40 caliber handgun. My wife carries the G26SF 9mm. The 27 (with extension) carries 12 rounds and the 9mm carries 9 rounds. If you need more than that, you've got a problem a handgun won't solve. lol These days, trouble can happen anywhere - and bad guys don't make appointments. Edited September 1, 2010 by OwlJones Quote Link to comment
JohnX Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 When I lived in North Dakota I got my HAM radio ticket after a near disastrous trip into the badlands. I never followed through on getting a hand held radio which I should carry. Consider this, an amature radio or HAM radio might save you. In an emergency situation the FCC does not even care if you have a license. Quote Link to comment
+Mom-n-Andy Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I do all of my caching alone. Probably a bad idea, but my wife can not physically handle some of the terrain, and I (sad but true) don't have any friends or family near by. Here is my question for all you "seasoned cachers": Besides the normal things like a GPS, Water, Walking Stick, and DEET, what "tools" do you carry to make caching easier or safer? Like I said, I'm alone and have a lot of time to think while I'm crashing through the underbrush. A dog. Quote Link to comment
+Chokecherry Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 When bigger I'm going to start bringing my new dog (the old man was just too old to go out in rough areas). For shorter caches I bring a bag with bug spray, extra swag, baggies, pens, paper, tweezers, camera, extra batteries, flash light, walking stick (also called the poking stick) and that's all I can think of off the top of my head. In my car (because sometimes I drive down questionable roads) I always have my first aid stuff, extra shoes, socks, clothes, blanket, extra water, and usually have a lighter. I adjust what I need for longer stuff based on what I know about the terrain of the longer stuff. Quote Link to comment
+Mark+Karen Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 There aren't too many places I'd go in the UK that I'd need survival equipment! In fact the most you might need is if you find yourself lost and out of water then a few quid to buy a pint in the local pub works a treat! Quote Link to comment
+Team Canda Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 We have a "cache bag" (a rugged orange backpack) that has most of the things already listed above (minus the gun, alcohol and plant killers). It also has scissors, extra Rite in the Rain logs, a few spare film canisters and bison tubes, tape, etc. We keep a spare notebook in case the iPhone won't work and we need to write ourselves some reminders. Also, some poison ivy wipes, paper towels, etc. As for safety, we are two women cachers and we try to avoid places that seem unsafe or don't have other hikers or pedestrians nearby. No game or recreational activity is worth your safety, sanity or your life, so if something doesn't feel right, we don't go. There's plenty of caches in safe places for you to find! (As a side note, I think a whistle is a good thing to have and I'll be adding one to our cache bag shortly!) Quote Link to comment
+power69 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I do all of my caching alone. Probably a bad idea, but my wife can not physically handle some of the terrain, and I (sad but true) don't have any friends or family near by. Here is my question for all you "seasoned cachers": Besides the normal things like a GPS, Water, Walking Stick, and DEET, what "tools" do you carry to make caching easier or safer? Like I said, I'm alone and have a lot of time to think while I'm crashing through the underbrush. Magnet on a string[for caches that have fallen to earth] Tweezers Blinkie log roller if in the mountains: Beretta 92FS [for safety should a unruly coyote or other being pose danger to me. no i don't shoot snakes if I see them] Quote Link to comment
+kywaterfowler Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I have a similar question... I primarily cache alone and in an urban setting. I live in a rather large suburb, but it has a lot of "open space" land that is basically fields and trees, or protected wetlands. Being young and female, I'm constantly vigilant but here's my question: what kind of tools do you carry for safety? Being vigilant is fine, but it won't save you should someone wish to do you harm. In many cases neither does a call to 911, especially if you're hunting off the beaten path. "Big tough guys" are good too, but they aren't bullet proof and a crazed meth-head isn't afraid of anyone. I'm not trying to scare anyone or anything like that, but people should know that it CAN happen to you - anytime, anywhere. The best way to make sure you are safe in any environment is to legally carry a handgun ( if your state allows) and get some training on it's proper use and safety. You should be mentally prepared to defend your life, and know and abide by the laws in your state regarding the carry of a weapon. If you can't or won't carry a firearm, then pepper spray is the next best thing. I recommend one with multiple bursts. All thins considered, getting a little on you and having an asthma attack would probably not be the worst thing that could happen should some low-life want to do you harm. In my family, we prefer Glock's. These days, trouble can happen anywhere - and bad guys don't make appointments. I agree Owljones, I carry a firearm when possible. In my state there are parks/forests that I am not allowed to carry a firearm, and in those cases I always have a pretty good size knife with me. If you are not comfortable carrying a firearm, you could always check into getting a stun gun or taser. Stun guns you have to be pretty close to use on someone, but a taser you can put some distance between you and your attacker. If you are comfortable carring a firearm and are looking for a small handgun. I would suggest the Ruger LCP or Keltec P-3AT. Quote Link to comment
+BBWolf+3Pigs Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 If I'm going off the road and into the woods, I bring everything necessary to survive a night or two outdoors, keeping the season in mind. Yeah my pack is on the heavy side and I probably will never need the bivy shelter, water treatment tabs, extra food, extra warm clothing, survival whistle, etc. but in the event something bad happens, it's there. +1. I also carry enough to get me through a night. Emergency mylar blanket, lighter & tinder, compass, water purification tablet, plus some other items. Even if you are only a short distance from parking, you can find yourself in world of hurt. A local cacher snapped her leg quite badly, and was less than 1/4 mile from parking (visit the log). If yo look at Nerves's profile, you get to see an x-ray of her ankle with all the hardware! She was lucky to have cell reception in the area so things worked out OK. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Look, Ma, no hands! Quote Link to comment
+speakers-corner Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Look, Ma, no hands! No wonder hes showing his back, the front is all wet. Only kidding Quote Link to comment
+Dragery Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) Look, Ma, no hands! No wonder hes showing his back, the front is all wet. Only kidding HAHA Yeah I just noticed how funny that looks. The lighting is so good in the bathroom tho! My daughter was flexing with me in all the other pics, it was super cute at the time I was taking pics because I had reached my weight goal after losing almost 80lbs. See my before, during, and afters. Edited September 1, 2010 by Dragery Quote Link to comment
+Twitch Hugs Trees Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) I have a similar question... I primarily cache alone and in an urban setting. I live in a rather large suburb, but it has a lot of "open space" land that is basically fields and trees, or protected wetlands. Being young and female, I'm constantly vigilant but here's my question: what kind of tools do you carry for safety? Being vigilant is fine, but it won't save you should someone wish to do you harm. In many cases neither does a call to 911, especially if you're hunting off the beaten path. "Big tough guys" are good too, but they aren't bullet proof and a crazed meth-head isn't afraid of anyone. I'm not trying to scare anyone or anything like that, but people should know that it CAN happen to you - anytime, anywhere. The best way to make sure you are safe in any environment is to legally carry a handgun ( if your state allows) and get some training on it's proper use and safety. You should be mentally prepared to defend your life, and know and abide by the laws in your state regarding the carry of a weapon. If you can't or won't carry a firearm, then pepper spray is the next best thing. I recommend one with multiple bursts. All thins considered, getting a little on you and having an asthma attack would probably not be the worst thing that could happen should some low-life want to do you harm. In my family, we prefer Glock's. These days, trouble can happen anywhere - and bad guys don't make appointments. I agree Owljones, I carry a firearm when possible. In my state there are parks/forests that I am not allowed to carry a firearm, and in those cases I always have a pretty good size knife with me. If you are not comfortable carrying a firearm, you could always check into getting a stun gun or taser. Stun guns you have to be pretty close to use on someone, but a taser you can put some distance between you and your attacker. If you are comfortable carring a firearm and are looking for a small handgun. I would suggest the Ruger LCP or Keltec P-3AT. Unfortunately, California law prevents me from owning or carrying any kind of firearm, as I am underage and there is a license required for concealed carry. On the pepperspray/mace front (see bolded text above), I really don't know if that is the best option for me. My asthma is very severe, to the point that if I were to spray that, I would be utterly and completely incapacitated until an ambulance arrived or I died. At this point, I am looking at stun-guns or tasers, but I don't know that much about them. I'm not sure if I can legally carry one here, or if I can afford the cost of the unit + cartridges + batteries. I will probably purchase a knife to carry with me regardless if I get a taser, any suggestions on type/brand? Edit to add: Congratulations, Dragery! That's quite an accomplishment. Edited September 2, 2010 by twitchhugstrees Quote Link to comment
+LukeTrocity Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Uploaded with ImageShack.us BEST INVENTION EVER---> Its a clip with a retractable string attached to the pen. Stick it on the bottom of my rucksack and I always have a pen handy. Amazing and simple! Quote Link to comment
+JesandTodd Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I have a similar question... I primarily cache alone and in an urban setting. I live in a rather large suburb, but it has a lot of "open space" land that is basically fields and trees, or protected wetlands. Being young and female, I'm constantly vigilant but here's my question: what kind of tools do you carry for safety? I've been considering buying pepper spray or something similar, but I'm severely asthmatic and if I sprayed an attacker I would probably incapacitate myself as well. The reason I ask is because I was out looking for a cache off of a bike trail, in a large open field. There's a lot of trees, and it's about .25 mi from the areas where people using the trail usually go. I walked into the field, but it's so easy for someone to hide and so isolated that it struck me as the kind of place you hear about on those true-crime shows that rapists/serial-killers/psychopaths hide out or dump bodies. I didn't search for that cache, and I'm hesitant to go back without something with me for protection. I'm sure if I had someone to cache with I wouldn't be afraid, but out there alone is just too creepy. I hear you girl. I cache alone probable 85% of the time. I carry pepper spray and also have asthma, but I take that chance. Can you get a script for an epi pen? I was thinking of adding a knife. At the point I'd use it would probably be too late but I intend to not go down easy. I'm at least gouging eyes out. As for Pepper Spray... It works, but only if you have in hand which is unlikely if you're holding a GPSr. Even without a GPSr, the ladies I know who carry pepper spray generally are real bad at remembering to walk with it in their hand. Digging one out of a purse is not a good option in an emergency. The spray hangs off my cache bag by a clip and you bet your life it's in my hand as I walk. Yeppers. It has enough slack to sway with my hand as I walk, and lift up to shoot. I almost used it yesterday when I came upon a coyote. He was actually a big guy, looked at me and then ran off so I didn't have to use it... Quote Link to comment
+ihorn Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I have a similar question... I primarily cache alone and in an urban setting. I live in a rather large suburb, but it has a lot of "open space" land that is basically fields and trees, or protected wetlands. Being young and female, I'm constantly vigilant but here's my question: what kind of tools do you carry for safety? Being vigilant is fine, but it won't save you should someone wish to do you harm. In many cases neither does a call to 911, especially if you're hunting off the beaten path. "Big tough guys" are good too, but they aren't bullet proof and a crazed meth-head isn't afraid of anyone. I'm not trying to scare anyone or anything like that, but people should know that it CAN happen to you - anytime, anywhere. The best way to make sure you are safe in any environment is to legally carry a handgun ( if your state allows) and get some training on it's proper use and safety. You should be mentally prepared to defend your life, and know and abide by the laws in your state regarding the carry of a weapon. If you can't or won't carry a firearm, then pepper spray is the next best thing. I recommend one with multiple bursts. All thins considered, getting a little on you and having an asthma attack would probably not be the worst thing that could happen should some low-life want to do you harm. In my family, we prefer Glock's. These days, trouble can happen anywhere - and bad guys don't make appointments. I agree Owljones, I carry a firearm when possible. In my state there are parks/forests that I am not allowed to carry a firearm, and in those cases I always have a pretty good size knife with me. If you are not comfortable carrying a firearm, you could always check into getting a stun gun or taser. Stun guns you have to be pretty close to use on someone, but a taser you can put some distance between you and your attacker. If you are comfortable carring a firearm and are looking for a small handgun. I would suggest the Ruger LCP or Keltec P-3AT. Unfortunately, California law prevents me from owning or carrying any kind of firearm, as I am underage and there is a license required for concealed carry. On the pepperspray/mace front (see bolded text above), I really don't know if that is the best option for me. My asthma is very severe, to the point that if I were to spray that, I would be utterly and completely incapacitated until an ambulance arrived or I died. At this point, I am looking at stun-guns or tasers, but I don't know that much about them. I'm not sure if I can legally carry one here, or if I can afford the cost of the unit + cartridges + batteries. I will probably purchase a knife to carry with me regardless if I get a taser, any suggestions on type/brand? Edit to add: Congratulations, Dragery! That's quite an accomplishment. Do not purchase, and carry a knife unless you know how to use it. I am sorry to say this but more than likely it will end up being used against you. It takes time to learn how to fight with a knife. Do yourself a favor get an epi pen script, and get some pepper spray. Or suck it up and get a taser. Quote Link to comment
+Bschubedobedoo Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I have a similar question... I primarily cache alone and in an urban setting. I live in a rather large suburb, but it has a lot of "open space" land that is basically fields and trees, or protected wetlands. Being young and female, I'm constantly vigilant but here's my question: what kind of tools do you carry for safety? I've been considering buying pepper spray or something similar, but I'm severely asthmatic and if I sprayed an attacker I would probably incapacitate myself as well. The reason I ask is because I was out looking for a cache off of a bike trail, in a large open field. There's a lot of trees, and it's about .25 mi from the areas where people using the trail usually go. I walked into the field, but it's so easy for someone to hide and so isolated that it struck me as the kind of place you hear about on those true-crime shows that rapists/serial-killers/psychopaths hide out or dump bodies. I didn't search for that cache, and I'm hesitant to go back without something with me for protection. I'm sure if I had someone to cache with I wouldn't be afraid, but out there alone is just too creepy. This is something that should be fun, you answered when you said "if you had someone to cache with, you wouldn't be afraid" Talk to your friends about geocaching or attend an event and make some GC friends to cache with. Good luck to you but creat your own good luck and be smart and don't go to theser places alone. Quote Link to comment
+GeoGeeBee Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Do not purchase, and carry a knife unless you know how to use it. I am sorry to say this but more than likely it will end up being used against you. It takes time to learn how to fight with a knife. Do yourself a favor get an epi pen script, and get some pepper spray. Or suck it up and get a taser. What he said. Using pepper spray is easy, physically and mentally. Using a gun is harder, mentally. Using a knife... it's violent and ugly and one has to be prepared both physically and mentally. Without a lot of training, you won't be able to do it. Quote Link to comment
+chief_illini217 Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 This thing has come in handy a few times, and you can fold it up. these are a must in my cachin truck..very very handy Quote Link to comment
+Anno Lynke Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I have a similar question... I primarily cache alone and in an urban setting. I live in a rather large suburb, but it has a lot of "open space" land that is basically fields and trees, or protected wetlands. Being young and female, I'm constantly vigilant but here's my question: what kind of tools do you carry for safety? Being vigilant is fine, but it won't save you should someone wish to do you harm. In many cases neither does a call to 911, especially if you're hunting off the beaten path. "Big tough guys" are good too, but they aren't bullet proof and a crazed meth-head isn't afraid of anyone. I'm not trying to scare anyone or anything like that, but people should know that it CAN happen to you - anytime, anywhere. The best way to make sure you are safe in any environment is to legally carry a handgun ( if your state allows) and get some training on it's proper use and safety. You should be mentally prepared to defend your life, and know and abide by the laws in your state regarding the carry of a weapon. If you can't or won't carry a firearm, then pepper spray is the next best thing. I recommend one with multiple bursts. All thins considered, getting a little on you and having an asthma attack would probably not be the worst thing that could happen should some low-life want to do you harm. In my family, we prefer Glock's. A Glock 27SF .40 caliber handgun. My wife carries the G26SF 9mm. The 27 (with extension) carries 12 rounds and the 9mm carries 9 rounds. If you need more than that, you've got a problem a handgun won't solve. lol These days, trouble can happen anywhere - and bad guys don't make appointments. I have one question I ask people before I recommend a gun... Are you willing to kill in your own defense? I had a friend that wanted a gun for defense she answered... I would try to shoot him in the leg... I got her pepper spray If you cant say yes without hesitating, you dont need to be carrying a gun. You will just be arming your attacker. Get pepper spray, keep it handy. Quote Link to comment
+Anno Lynke Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 (edited) sorry double post Edited September 10, 2010 by Anno Lynke Quote Link to comment
+mountainman38 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I do all of my caching alone. Probably a bad idea, but my wife can not physically handle some of the terrain, and I (sad but true) don't have any friends or family near by. Here is my question for all you "seasoned cachers": Besides the normal things like a GPS, Water, Walking Stick, and DEET, what "tools" do you carry to make caching easier or safer? Like I said, I'm alone and have a lot of time to think while I'm crashing through the underbrush. I do most of my caching alone, and like it that way. The few times I've cached with others, if they find the cache, I feel like I'm cheating if I sign the log. I like the peace and quiet of doing things at my own pace, and going where I want without worrying about whether someone else wants to go another way. I learned the hard way to always carry a writing implement, and I always carry a very bright flashlight as well. I've found a number of caches by shining my light in unlikely spots, and seeing a bit of color or some other giveaway. Quote Link to comment
+mountainman38 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 ...Unfortunately, California law prevents me from owning or carrying any kind of firearm, as I am underage and there is a license required for concealed carry. On the pepperspray/mace front (see bolded text above), I really don't know if that is the best option for me. My asthma is very severe, to the point that if I were to spray that, I would be utterly and completely incapacitated until an ambulance arrived or I died. At this point, I am looking at stun-guns or tasers, but I don't know that much about them. I'm not sure if I can legally carry one here, or if I can afford the cost of the unit + cartridges + batteries. I will probably purchase a knife to carry with me regardless if I get a taser, any suggestions on type/brand? Edit to add: Congratulations, Dragery! That's quite an accomplishment. Twitch, I react very strongly to pepper spray, even when sprayed away from me. Since I think a blast of irritating pepper is the best way to try to fend off an attacker, I've bought pepper foam for my wife and me to carry. It doesn't let particles swirl around in the air like the spray does, but has the same repulsive effect. I'd look into getting some of that stuff. Quote Link to comment
+jsmuddydogs Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I react very strongly to pepper spray, even when sprayed away from me. Since I think a blast of irritating pepper is the best way to try to fend off an attacker, I've bought pepper foam for my wife and me to carry. It doesn't let particles swirl around in the air like the spray does, but has the same repulsive effect. I'd look into getting some of that stuff. This is what I was going to recommend. Try Fox foam spray, it is harder to hit your target but less chance of getting some on you. You don't have to worry as much about which way the wind is blowing. Quote Link to comment
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