+Spraginator Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Does anyone know of any caches that are located in caves? Are they allowed? Quote
+TABjuggler Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Does anyone know of any caches that are located in caves? Are they allowed? Yeah, I think there are even some you have to repel into said cave. Quote
Motorcycle_Mama Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 In order to place a cache in a cave, you will have to adequately deal with the permission issue as well as the requirement for a GPS to be integral to the cache hunt. Quote
knowschad Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Another consideration in some parts of the U.S.: USFWS Asking for Voluntary Moratorium on ALL Visits to Caves, and Abandoned Mines in 17 States on East Coast of USA. Quote
+humboldt flier Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 (edited) Oh Yeahhhhhhhh, Got to hope the cave has a roll back top so the Tupperware Sniffer can get a good view of the birds. Edited August 6, 2010 by humboldt flier Quote
+bittsen Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 There is a cave (or two) that I want to place a cache in. The only thing that is stopping me on one of them is the fact that there is something alive in it (probably just bats) and the other is that I was just too scared to stay in it for too long. Both are really cool caves. Quote
+Sol seaker Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Might be easiest to make it a multi-cache or a mystery/ puzzle cache due to the fact that the GPS won't work inside of the cave. I found a multi that had the first part in a mine shaft. The coords on the cache page were to the mine. You have to get the coordinates off a rock at the back of the shaft. The actual cache is placed nearby where you can use your GPS outside the mine. that one is one of my all-time favorites!! Quote
+TABjuggler Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Might be easiest to make it a multi-cache or a mystery/ puzzle cache due to the fact that the GPS won't work inside of the cave. I found a multi that had the first part in a mine shaft. The coords on the cache page were to the mine. You have to get the coordinates off a rock at the back of the shaft. The actual cache is placed nearby where you can use your GPS outside the mine. that one is one of my all-time favorites!! Sounds awesome! Quote
+DragonsWest Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 (edited) Uh, yes. In the Cave of Caerbannog. I didn't nearly soil my armor in that one! Ho! Ho! (The Holy Grail) Edited August 6, 2010 by DragonsWest Quote
+briansnat Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 They are allowed but you need to be careful. On the east coast many authorities are restricting or banning access to caves due to White Nose Syndrome in bats. Also, the NSS has taken an anti geocaching stance in the past and members have been known to steal geocaches in or even near caves. Also there is the requirement of GPS use in the guidelines. A cache in a cave needs to demonstrate the use of a GPS somewhere along the line. If you can find a cave that the NSS doesn't know about, or care about, and is not on the east coast, and you can work GPS use into your hide, then go for it. I've found a few cave and mine caches and count them among my favorites. Quote
+Team Cotati Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 You can, in lots of cases, mark the cave entrance coordinates and give instruction regarding how to enter the cave and where the cache is located inside the cave. From what I've seen, that isn't too difficult. Quote
+roziecakes Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 One of our favorite caches that we've ever found (and actually where our 'full of awesome' picture was taken) was in a cave. The coordinates pointed to the mouth of the cave, and then we followed clues. GC1JBP7 Quote
aniyn Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 I did GC28WBX earlier this year and had no problems. Quote
+redsox_mark Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 I found a multi last week which had 2 different stages (one of which was the final) in caves. They were small caves, so giving the entrance coordinates and a hint was enough. No bats, but lots of spiders! Quote
+NYPaddleCacher Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 I've done two earth caches at caves, one at Howe Caverns near Cobelskill, NY and the other was a small cave near Easton, PA. The Easton, PA one required information that could only be obtained within the cave (paying for the tour) but all information fro the Howe Caverns one could be obtained outside or in the gift shop/museum. Quote
+bflentje Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 I own two cave caches and they are my favorites. One you don't have to worry about critters and the other one you do. I've also found several caches in caves and they are generally tops on my list in terms of cool adventure. Quote
+Semper Questio Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 We have 1 or two cave caches down here. 1 is in "Airman's Cave" which is notorious for people getting stuck in. I would LOVE to go after it, but I'm WAY to big, old, and gimpy to be doing that. I'll have to wait until I can borrow somebody's kid to send in with a rope around his waist. Speaking of which, I DO have a couple of rather spirited grandsons. Wonder when they will be coming down for a visit again. Hmmmmmmm Quote
+Spraginator Posted August 6, 2010 Author Posted August 6, 2010 Might be easiest to make it a multi-cache or a mystery/ puzzle cache due to the fact that the GPS won't work inside of the cave. I found a multi that had the first part in a mine shaft. The coords on the cache page were to the mine. You have to get the coordinates off a rock at the back of the shaft. The actual cache is placed nearby where you can use your GPS outside the mine. that one is one of my all-time favorites!! Do you know the name of that cache or the number? Quote
+BlueDeuce Posted August 7, 2010 Posted August 7, 2010 Dang CM. I never realized you were that short. Say hey to your Dad for me. Quote
+cerberus1 Posted August 7, 2010 Posted August 7, 2010 We had one for about a year. Second from the last cacher asked about the "white" bats and I scheduled a look see. In the meantime, kids found the area as their new hang-out and with the double-trouble decided to archive it. Most of the bats inside did have white nose. A real shame. Quote
7rxc Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 Seems WNS has made a jump into Texas based on something I saw on CNN, US news... Doug 7rxc Quote
+Castle Mischief Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 Dang CM. I never realized you were that short. Say hey to your Dad for me. I should have never smoked in my 20's. Stunted my growth. Quote
+Geocass&Andy750x Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 We did a cave (Old slate mine) yesterday in Exmoor National Park, Devon, UK: GC1AGGD. It was scary, but exciting. It was a 5/5 and my fave cache of all time! The co-ords marked the cache location, but as the GPSr obviously didn't work inside you just had to use your noggin to work out where there entrance was, which luckily we managed quite easily. It was just under a 300ft walk through the cave. Quote
+dakboy Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Do it as a multi, mystery or letterbox hybrid. There used to be a cache in the abandoned Rochester (NY) Subway which was listed as a letterbox hybrid; coords took you to the "best" subway entrance to use, then text description guided you the rest of the way. Will have to check out NYPaddleCacher's hint that there's one at Howe's Cavern; I haven't been there in a long time and have been thinking about taking my son some weekend. Quote
+Castle Mischief Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Do it as a multi, mystery or letterbox hybrid. There used to be a cache in the abandoned Rochester (NY) Subway which was listed as a letterbox hybrid; coords took you to the "best" subway entrance to use, then text description guided you the rest of the way. While it wouldn't be impossible to list as a letterbox hybrid, keep in mind that the only thing that makes a cache a LB hybrid is the stamp, not the methodology of the hunt- ie letterbox-like clues. Quote
+briansnat Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Do it as a multi, mystery or letterbox hybrid. There used to be a cache in the abandoned Rochester (NY) Subway which was listed as a letterbox hybrid; coords took you to the "best" subway entrance to use, then text description guided you the rest of the way. While it wouldn't be impossible to list as a letterbox hybrid, keep in mind that the only thing that makes a cache a LB hybrid is the stamp, not the methodology of the hunt- ie letterbox-like clues. Truer words have never been written. Quote
+niraD Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Do it as a multi, mystery or letterbox hybrid.Ignore the fact that it's in a cave, and just look at the way the location for the cache is provided. If you just post the coordinates of the final location, then it's a traditional cache, even if there is no GPS reception at the final location. (There are still ways to get accurate coordinates, and ways to use accurate coordinates to find the cache.) If you post coordinates to the mouth of the cave or some other location outside the cave, and then provide an offset for the location of the cache, then it's a multi-cache. And so on... Quote
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