when you go shopping now do you....

[ashnikes]

When you go shopping now do you look for containers that might work as geocaches? for example have you switched your coffee purchases from a bag to a can so you can use the can later as a geocache?

[+Borst68]

When you go shopping now do you look for containers that might work as geocaches? for example have you switched your coffee purchases from a bag to a can so you can use the can later as a geocache?

 

No. Coffee is too important to drink crappy coffee just to reuse the container for a geocache. It would probably suck as a geocahe anyway. I would reuse the container to store nails or some other crap in my basement. I have no interest in dealing with a zillion comments of "log book soaked" just for the sake of reusing a coffee can.

[+dorqie]

yes to part one, no to part two.

[BCProspectors]

We have already purchased an ammo can and are currently planning out a good location for it. We are not planning to hide any other caches so there's no need for us to try to get more containers.

[ashnikes]

I have a feeling motorcycle moma really closed the cops thread because she was jealous i was flirtig with you and not her, muhahahahhaa, and if you pm me your address ill send you a cache full of ring pops.

[GOF's Sock Puppet]

Yeah, in a choice between drinking the right coffee and being able to use the container as a cache the right coffee wins every time.

 

I did get some leftovers out for lunch only to find a log book and some swag in the LnL. Kinda made me wonder what that FTF was like. "Signed chicken wing took celery. Thanks for the...cache?"

[+niraD]

Yeah, in a choice between drinking the right coffee and being able to use the container as a cache the right coffee wins every time.

Not to mention, if the coffee comes in a container that would make a good cache (e.g., Lock & Lock containers), then the company is probably investing too much in their containers, and not enough in their coffee.

 

We occasionally get semi-disposable containers "free" when we purchase something, but semi-disposable containers make poor caches. I'd rather pay a few bucks for something I know is durable and waterproof, given the time and energy I'll invest in camouflaging the container and placing the cache.

[+Harry Dolphin]

Have we been ashnikesed again??

Coffee cans are terrible containers!

But, I've found some interesting things in TJMaxx, while my laundry is washing. Small bronze hare statue. Stuffed shock-mounting foam up his butt, with a hole for a bison tube. Hid him in a tree stump in the woods. His name is Arneb. Yes. My micro in the woods. People enjoy findng him...

[GOF's Sock Puppet]

Have we been ashnikesed again??

 

I think he has mellowed a bit over the last three days. At least he didn't start this thread with an insult.

[+narcissa]

When you go shopping now do you look for containers that might work as geocaches? for example have you switched your coffee purchases from a bag to a can so you can use the can later as a geocache?

 

Absolutely not. Containers used for food attract animals (even in the city), and there's no way a coffee container can stand up to the elements where I live.

[+brslk]

When you go shopping now do you look for containers that might work as geocaches? for example have you switched your coffee purchases from a bag to a can so you can use the can later as a geocache?

 

Absolutely not. Containers used for food attract animals (even in the city), and there's no way a coffee container can stand up to the elements where I live.

 

I agree with you for the most part but I have seen several of those red Folgers coffee containers last for several years here.

[+swfirefly]

Yes. A bought canned cat food that came with a lock and lock container. I used that container to hide my first cache.

[ashnikes]

the coffee can was one example, theres tons of stuff for sale in durable containers,

[GOF's Sock Puppet]

the coffee can was one example, theres tons of stuff for sale in durable containers,

 

That's fine. Just don't mess with my coffee!

[+Pork King]

I agree with you for the most part but I have seen several of those red Folgers coffee containers last for several years here.

 

+1

 

I wouldn't purchase an item just because it came with a potential cache container. I'd just by the item I really wanted and move a few aisles over to where the lock'n'locks are kept and select one of those.

[+narcissa]

I agree with you for the most part but I have seen several of those red Folgers coffee containers last for several years here.

 

Years? Really?

 

"Joined: 18-October 09"

 

The Folgers containers have a tendency to disintegrate quite suddenly, and the lids are crap.

 

And why anyone would buy Folgers is beyond me. I don't even drink coffee and I know better than to inflict that on anybody.

[Andronicus]

I always look, but not in the food isles. Unless you know of a store that sells nachos in an ammo can.

[+power69]

When you go shopping now do you look for containers that might work as geocaches? for example have you switched your coffee purchases from a bag to a can so you can use the can later as a geocache?

Ahhhhhhhhh. the soggy moldy folgers coffee can cache hide.

I do this though.

if it comes down to two containers ones a glass jar and ones a widemouthed plastic container, the plastic one wins[and it dont go in the dump when its empty]

[+Fjordi]

Just yesterday I went shopping for new bed sheets and some pillows...

Somehow, some cache containers jumped in my shopping bag as well

[+Harry Dolphin]

Just yesterday I went shopping for new bed sheets and some pillows...

Somehow, some cache containers jumped in my shopping bag as well

 

Plastic, zippered sheet bags do not make good containers.

[Clan Riffster]

Unless you know of a store that sells nachos in an ammo can.

You just described Nirvahna!

 

Back on topic: One side effect of me being woefully addicted to this game is that I tend to view the world through cacher's eyes. As I shop I constantly find myself evaluating things, scoring them for their caching potential. Personally I think coffee containers, (both metal & plastic), make for awful cache containers, as I have never found one that was dry inside. However, I have found things that I thought would be really kewl.

[+BulldogBlitz]

When you go shopping now do you look for containers that might work as geocaches? for example have you switched your coffee purchases from a bag to a can so you can use the can later as a geocache?

 

i do sort of. i know now to not look at the peanut butter aisle... or the coffee aisle or the disposable tupperware aisle. none of those aisles have containers good for caching. i've seen some of each....all had logs that were mildewed or currently had water sitting in the bottom.

[+ThirstyMick]

I agree with you for the most part but I have seen several of those red Folgers coffee containers last for several years here.

 

Years? Really?

 

"Joined: 18-October 09"

 

The Folgers containers have a tendency to disintegrate quite suddenly, and the lids are crap.

 

And why anyone would buy Folgers is beyond me. I don't even drink coffee and I know better than to inflict that on anybody.

 

He didn't say they were his caches. They could've been placed years ago by someone else and found recently in good shape.

 

I agree with the folgers sentiment. I am a coffee fiend and even if I believed the cans made decent containers, a free container would not be worth drinking that! I aim for the lock-n-lock aisle and buy clean ones that won't attract animals (even so, I've had a bear munch on a lock-n-lock) or plan a day at the shore and head down to the englishtown (nj) fleamarket for cheap ammo cans.

[+brslk]

I agree with you for the most part but I have seen several of those red Folgers coffee containers last for several years here.

 

Years? Really?

 

"Joined: 18-October 09"

 

The Folgers containers have a tendency to disintegrate quite suddenly, and the lids are crap.

 

And why anyone would buy Folgers is beyond me. I don't even drink coffee and I know better than to inflict that on anybody.

 

He didn't say they were his caches. They could've been placed years ago by someone else and found recently in good shape.

 

I agree with the folgers sentiment. I am a coffee fiend and even if I believed the cans made decent containers, a free container would not be worth drinking that! I aim for the lock-n-lock aisle and buy clean ones that won't attract animals (even so, I've had a bear munch on a lock-n-lock) or plan a day at the shore and head down to the englishtown (nj) fleamarket for cheap ammo cans.

 

Exactly.

I have no idea what the date was when I joined this site has to do with when someone else places a cache?

 

I have never seen one "disintegrate quite suddenly". How is that even possible?

 

As for the taste of Folgers, I have no idea. I don't drink coffee.

 

I could discuss Bourbon for hours but those bottles don't make such good cache containers.

[+narcissa]

 

I have no idea what the date was when I joined this site has to do with when someone else places a cache?

 

I have never seen one "disintegrate quite suddenly". How is that even possible?

 

As for the taste of Folgers, I have no idea. I don't drink coffee.

 

I could discuss Bourbon for hours but those bottles don't make such good cache containers.

 

How can you see a cache last for years if you've only been caching for less than a year? Do you know the exact history of every cache container you've found?

 

Plastics are not inert. When you put a plastic container outside, it's exposed to temperature changes, UV light, moisture, etc. All of these things work on the chemical composition of the plastic over time. Eventually the plastic becomes weak and brittle, and then it doesn't take much for the container to break. This often happens quite suddenly, especially with containers like those Folgers cans where the plastic is very thin and relies on a certain amount of pliability to stay intact.

 

Imagine someone dipping a rose in liquid nitrogen and then hitting it with a hammer.

 

Plastics intended for long-term use are treated with stabilizers so they can better withstand the elements. The cheap plastics in disposable food containers are not.

 

Science is hard. Let's go shopping!

[+dorqie]

I have a cream cheese tub that's been holding nails in my shed for no less than 3 years. Durable enough and "free"

Still wouldn't want to place a cache in one. Don't eat enough cream cheese to replace the container every time it gets cracked. If someone wants to, be my guest.

 

Food is not the only thing I shop for, and I have come across some cool containers in unexpected places.

[+brslk]

 

I have no idea what the date was when I joined this site has to do with when someone else places a cache?

 

I have never seen one "disintegrate quite suddenly". How is that even possible?

 

As for the taste of Folgers, I have no idea. I don't drink coffee.

 

I could discuss Bourbon for hours but those bottles don't make such good cache containers.

 

How can you see a cache last for years if you've only been caching for less than a year? Do you know the exact history of every cache container you've found?

 

Plastics are not inert. When you put a plastic container outside, it's exposed to temperature changes, UV light, moisture, etc. All of these things work on the chemical composition of the plastic over time. Eventually the plastic becomes weak and brittle, and then it doesn't take much for the container to break. This often happens quite suddenly, especially with containers like those Folgers cans where the plastic is very thin and relies on a certain amount of pliability to stay intact.

 

Imagine someone dipping a rose in liquid nitrogen and then hitting it with a hammer.

 

Plastics intended for long-term use are treated with stabilizers so they can better withstand the elements. The cheap plastics in disposable food containers are not.

 

Science is hard. Let's go shopping!

 

Thanks Miss Science!(or are you Malibu Stacey) I had no idea that a degrading folgers can would react just like a rose dipped in liquid nitrogen! It disintigrates that fast? wow

 

Perhaps you can show me where in my post it says I know the exact history of every cache container i've found?

[+narcissa]

I have a cream cheese tub that's been holding nails in my shed for no less than 3 years. Durable enough and "free"

 

 

It depends on the conditions it's exposed to and the amount of time. I find that with enough time, margarine containers get brittle even when they're kept in the house.

[+narcissa]

I had no idea that a degrading folgers can would react just like a rose dipped in liquid nitrogen! It disintigrates that fast? wow

 

Perhaps you can show me where in my post it says I know the exact history of every cache container i've found?

 

Imagine the difference between the rose before and after. Supple plastic vs. brittle plastic. The Folgers container won't break easily when it's new and supple. Once it becomes brittle, it's very thin and will break easily. Once the container becomes brittle, it will take very little pressure or impact to break it.

 

Sudden disintegration of plastic after exposure to the elements isn't some new and radical theory.

 

Suggested reading you can do on teh interwebs for free (I'll assume you don't have access to a scientific journal database). You'll notice that UV light is the big one - in fact, some researchers are trying to find ways to make biodegradable plastics by trying to make plastics MORE susceptible to UV light than they already are.

 

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=16344927

http://www.labtechnologist.com/Application...stic-weathering

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ie50559a035

http://www.zeusinc.com/UserFiles/zeusinc/D...of_Plastics.pdf

 

As for your other nonsense, you stated that you've seen these caches last for years, but you have fewer than 150 finds and have been caching for less than a year. How is it possible that you have personally seen caches in Folgers coffee containers last for years? Do you have another account?

[+BulldogBlitz]

 

 

as my son said last week "Bologna Sandwich"

Edited June 25, 2010 by BulldogBlitz

[+brslk]

I had no idea that a degrading folgers can would react just like a rose dipped in liquid nitrogen! It disintigrates that fast? wow

 

Perhaps you can show me where in my post it says I know the exact history of every cache container i've found?

 

Imagine the difference between the rose before and after. Supple plastic vs. brittle plastic. The Folgers container won't break easily when it's new and supple. Once it becomes brittle, it's very thin and will break easily. Once the container becomes brittle, it will take very little pressure or impact to break it.

 

Sudden disintegration of plastic after exposure to the elements isn't some new and radical theory.

 

Suggested reading you can do on teh interwebs for free (I'll assume you don't have access to a scientific journal database). You'll notice that UV light is the big one - in fact, some researchers are trying to find ways to make biodegradable plastics by trying to make plastics MORE susceptible to UV light than they already are.

 

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=16344927

http://www.labtechnologist.com/Application...stic-weathering

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ie50559a035

http://www.zeusinc.com/UserFiles/zeusinc/D...of_Plastics.pdf

 

As for your other nonsense, you stated that you've seen these caches last for years, but you have fewer than 150 finds and have been caching for less than a year. How is it possible that you have personally seen caches in Folgers coffee containers last for years? Do you have another account?

 

GCM74F

 

I'll leave it at that.

 

*edited to remove wise words that someone took personally*

Edited June 25, 2010 by brslk

[Clan Riffster]

GCM74F

That looks like a pretty kewl cache. I see the original coffee container was hidden on 12-04-2004. In this game, that listing could almost be called antique! I see you found it in October of last year. Was the container you found the same one that was originally placed? If you were able to prove that, this cache would certainly qualify as a coffee container that has lasted for years. If not, someone could argue that it could have been replaced the day before you found it.

 

(Yeah, I know. Folks will argue anything on the Internet)

[+brslk]

GCM74F

That looks like a pretty kewl cache. I see the original coffee container was hidden on 12-04-2004. In this game, that listing could almost be called antique! I see you found it in October of last year. Was the container you found the same one that was originally placed? If you were able to prove that, this cache would certainly qualify as a coffee container that has lasted for years. If not, someone could argue that it could have been replaced the day before you found it.

 

(Yeah, I know. Folks will argue anything on the Internet)

 

As far as I know it is still the original container. Perhaps the CO will read this thread and let us know. I see he posts in the forums from time to time.

[+GeoGeeBee]

GCM74F

That looks like a pretty kewl cache. I see the original coffee container was hidden on 12-04-2004. In this game, that listing could almost be called antique! I see you found it in October of last year. Was the container you found the same one that was originally placed? If you were able to prove that, this cache would certainly qualify as a coffee container that has lasted for years. If not, someone could argue that it could have been replaced the day before you found it.

 

(Yeah, I know. Folks will argue anything on the Internet)

 

Not to mention the picture of the wet logbook. Hardly a ringing endorsement of this container.

[+brslk]

GCM74F

That looks like a pretty kewl cache. I see the original coffee container was hidden on 12-04-2004. In this game, that listing could almost be called antique! I see you found it in October of last year. Was the container you found the same one that was originally placed? If you were able to prove that, this cache would certainly qualify as a coffee container that has lasted for years. If not, someone could argue that it could have been replaced the day before you found it.

 

(Yeah, I know. Folks will argue anything on the Internet)

 

Not to mention the picture of the wet logbook. Hardly a ringing endorsement of this container.

 

I don't think one report of a wet logbook since 2004 is too bad. I've seen such things reported with ammo cans. I'm not saying they are a perfect container. I'm just saying there are worse.

Edited June 25, 2010 by brslk

[+narcissa]

GCM74F

That looks like a pretty kewl cache. I see the original coffee container was hidden on 12-04-2004. In this game, that listing could almost be called antique! I see you found it in October of last year. Was the container you found the same one that was originally placed? If you were able to prove that, this cache would certainly qualify as a coffee container that has lasted for years. If not, someone could argue that it could have been replaced the day before you found it.

 

(Yeah, I know. Folks will argue anything on the Internet)

 

Not to mention the picture of the wet logbook. Hardly a ringing endorsement of this container.

 

Keep in mind brslk thinks ABS pipes are good cache containers, but won't explain how to make them so because it's his special secret.

[+narcissa]

 

I'll leave it at that. I once read That it isnt wise to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty and the pig enjoys it.

 

Resorting to personal insults over a discussion of a coffee container is pretty weak, dude.

[+Rich the Bushwhacker]

I switched from buying New Ammo to Military Surplus Ammo so I could get good containers.