+roziecakes Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 "Mundanes." Although I've never figured out how to combine geocaching with SCA. I love this one!! I used to work at Ren Faires and do SCA. I think I'm going to start using that. I like it better than muggles. So...when a previous , er...mundane learns what you've been calling them the derogatory connotation won't be a problem? You might do better by calling them Pedestrians even though it's more insulting. Huh what? If calling someone a 'mundane' is derogatory I must really be missing something... if you want to put it that way, isn't 'muggle' derogatory also, using your logic? (Honestly I find neither derogatory... but I guess to me derogatory would incorporate more extreme language). Quote Link to comment
+Herb and Beans Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I don't really care. Frankly, I am kinda shocked that it matters that much to people. Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 "Mundanes." Although I've never figured out how to combine geocaching with SCA. I love this one!! I used to work at Ren Faires and do SCA. I think I'm going to start using that. I like it better than muggles. So...when a previous , er...mundane learns what you've been calling them the derogatory connotation won't be a problem? You might do better by calling them Pedestrians even though it's more insulting. Huh what? If calling someone a 'mundane' is derogatory I must really be missing something... if you want to put it that way, isn't 'muggle' derogatory also, using your logic? (Honestly I find neither derogatory... but I guess to me derogatory would incorporate more extreme language). uh-huh. Go put it into practice and let me know which goes over better. Not to your inner circle of cache droogies but directly to the people who either don't know about geocaching or are just learning about it. Quote Link to comment
+roziecakes Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 uh-huh. Go put it into practice and let me know which goes over better. Not to your inner circle of cache droogies but directly to the people who either don't know about geocaching or are just learning about it. Wow, I don't really think it's that big of a deal. But honestly, I only planned on mentioning it between my husband and I, as a joke. Most people who don't do SCA or Renfaire probably wouldn't get it anyway. Sorry to bother you so much. I thought it was amusing, but I'll be leaving this thread now. I do apologize if I offended you in any way. Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I'm not offended myself but yes it did bother me. Just had to put it out there. Thanks. Quote Link to comment
+thistleRacers Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I was thinking about it a little more... I may be wrong, but I bet the use of the term muggle developed organically. Someone starting using it, others liked it and copied it....and it stuck. Trying to change it is kind of like trying to give yourself a nickname...it don't work. Being part of a group or community, sometimes you just go with the flow...but you don't have to...I'll stick with "muggles" for now until something else comes along I like better (I might try out CLAMs to see how it fits :-) Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I was thinking about it a little more...I may be wrong, but I bet the use of the term muggle developed organically. Someone starting using it, others liked it and copied it....and it stuck. Trying to change it is kind of like trying to give yourself a nickname...it don't work. Being part of a group or community, sometimes you just go with the flow...but you don't have to...I'll stick with "muggles" for now until something else comes along I like better (I might try out CLAMs to see how it fits :-) ^10 Quote Link to comment
+Team-Lost Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 WE DON'T HAVE ANY IMAGINATION????? What do you thing this sport is based on. C'mon newbe get with the sport. Call them what you want but the language here they are called muggles. Maybe a cache should be called "a hidden thingy" Quote Link to comment
+Mosaic55 Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Personally, I think "muggle" works just fine, but, since some people don't like the term, in the future I will call them the non-magical people. Quote Link to comment
+geodarts Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 (edited) I tend to avoid the term. Although I felt compelled to read Potter and followed the adventures of Snape, there is probably too much Potterification as it is. It's also hard for me to feel very magical while lifting a lamp post skirt. Although local cachers have done a MAGIC hike or two. I will have to ask my noncaching spouse what she thinks she should be called. Or what what people outside the game call us. Edited June 19, 2010 by mulvaney Quote Link to comment
+roziecakes Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I'm not offended myself but yes it did bother me. Just had to put it out there. Thanks. Okie dokie. I appreciate your saying something, helps me to think about things differently. Like I said I had no idea it would bother anyone, but apparently it did, so I learned something. Thank you for that; and again, I am sorry. Quote Link to comment
cakeissoyummy Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 how about nermals like nermal in garfield Quote Link to comment
cakeissoyummy Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 how about nermals like nermal in garfield Quote Link to comment
+roziecakes Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 how about nermals like nermal in garfield ?? Nermal was the world's cutest kitten. Not really sure how it would apply. Quote Link to comment
+brslk Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 how about nermals like nermal in garfield ?? Nermal was the world's cutest kitten. Not really sure how it would apply. Nermal was not the cutest kitten ever. My cat was when she was a kitten. I have no problem with the term "muggle" I prefer the term "others" or "the others" However I am not here to change the world. Gotta go! Dumpster diving looking for containers and swag!!! Quote Link to comment
+roziecakes Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 how about nermals like nermal in garfield ?? Nermal was the world's cutest kitten. Not really sure how it would apply. Nermal was not the cutest kitten ever. My cat was when she was a kitten. I have no problem with the term "muggle" I prefer the term "others" or "the others" However I am not here to change the world. Gotta go! Dumpster diving looking for containers and swag!!! Actually, I think the only person who thought Nermal was the world's cutest kitten was Nermal... Quote Link to comment
DannyCaffeine Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I never liked the term mu***es and refuse to use it. Many years ago I suggested CLAMS Cacheless unAware Members of Society. It went over like a lead balloon. Clams? Did someone mention clams? Would we get to wear the neato CLAM uniform? Sorry guys but that looks like a pickle on a hamburger bun. Quote Link to comment
+SwineFlew Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I call them Outsider. Quote Link to comment
+brslk Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I never liked the term mu***es and refuse to use it. Many years ago I suggested CLAMS Cacheless unAware Members of Society. It went over like a lead balloon. Clams? Did someone mention clams? Would we get to wear the neato CLAM uniform? Sorry guys but that looks like a pickle on a hamburger bun. Clam up you! Quote Link to comment
+stinger503 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I like using muggles. Mug or Mugging usually means stealing, so that's what I think of when someone says "that cache has been muggled" Quote Link to comment
+needaxeo Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 ...snip (or derived from entrenched pop culture) that people will figure out what you're referring to. I think that's the main issue, the underlying premise of muggles - 'someone who is not part of' - is easily understood by many of the geocaching population. It's (pop) cultural. Yep. This. I knew what a muggle was the moment I read it in a log...and the thing is, those with the irrational hatred for the word or Harry Potter, it's because you understood it immediately too which is actually showing the word is more ideal not less. It would have been better to have pretended you didn't understand it or what it was. "Muggle? What an earth is a muggle?" that kind of thing. Quote Link to comment
+Fjordi Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I am really addicted to the stories of Harry Potter, so when I started caching I was delighted to hear, that non-caching people are called Muggels. Because I think it is a great feeling to call someone a Muggle. Then you get the impression that you do something really secret or even magical. I didn't know, that the word existed before Harry Potter. And now don't dare to call me childish Quote Link to comment
+BulldogBlitz Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 yes... lets remove the harry potter reference. let's be original. i suggest a choice of: *dark side *sith *evil empire Quote Link to comment
+HOWsMom Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 How about "InValids" (ref : Gattaca) Quote Link to comment
Fledermaus Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 How about "MUGGLER" (muggle & burgler), as in one who is uninformed of the hobby and thus "steals" your cache because they can, more often than not, attributed to youngsters and teens. Quote Link to comment
+JL_HSTRE Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 How about "MUGGLER" (muggle & burgler), as in one who is uninformed of the hobby and thus "steals" your cache because they can, more often than not, attributed to youngsters and teens. I've seen the term muggler used in logs occasionally. I was never sure if it was intentional for "muggle burglar" or was a misspelling of "muggle" by the logger. FWIW, Urban Dictionary has a rather disgusting entry for "muggler". (Read at your own risk.) Muggle always seemed like a reasonable term, even if it is semi-borrowed: non-cachers don't see/understand/believe in the magic and wonder of the geocaching world, even though cachers and cache containers are all around them. CLAMS is an amusing alternative. Quote Link to comment
+TheSapaFamily Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I'm very creative. I use the term "non-geocachers" ;-) Quote Link to comment
+Cedar Grove Seekers Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Considering muggle has been around since the early days of geocaching, and I like traditon, I never really minded the term. However, CLAM seems to be pretty popular in this thread, so to heck with tradition, let's go with CLAM. Everyone OK with that. Good, then it's settled. Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Clam is a bit generic. There are lots of types of clams. If we are to abandon muggle for clam I think we should be specific. I like geoducks (pronounced gooey duck). That's a much more specific image than clam. And unlike muggle geoduck leaves a visual that your brain isn't likely to forget. Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Muggle has become ingrained - just the way it is. Quote Link to comment
4wheelin_fool Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 The word will eventually get worn out and overused. I've never liked it anyway. It's too juvenile. Muggles should be called Oompa Loompa's, which would be a much better phrase, and since many Platinum members are already using it anyway. Quote Link to comment
+journey4truth Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 The word will eventually get worn out and overused. I've never liked it anyway. It's too juvenile. Muggles should be called Oompa Loompa's, which would be a much better phrase, and since many Platinum members are already using it anyway. Off topic, but... did I miss something? I didn't know a platinum membership existed. Quote Link to comment
+bittsen Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 The word will eventually get worn out and overused. I've never liked it anyway. It's too juvenile. Muggles should be called Oompa Loompa's, which would be a much better phrase, and since many Platinum members are already using it anyway. Off topic, but... did I miss something? I didn't know a platinum membership existed. Platinum membership is NOT to be discussed, according to the bylaws and TOS of platinum membership. Quote Link to comment
BCProspectors Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 I don't really care. Frankly, I am kinda shocked that it matters that much to people. +1 Quote Link to comment
+CanUK_TeamFitz Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 I'm a big fan of The Walking Dead comic series which is about to become a TV show, I started using the terms "roamers" and "lurkers" respectively for passers-by and those hanging around. The terms fit comfortably with me, they are subtle, not insulting and not zombie-sounding (well, unless you read the comics). The only thing is there is not really a verb that can be made out of them, but I'm ok with that. I just use the word filched, pilfered, plundered or other. I suppose I could always used "delurked". Quote Link to comment
+Sioneva Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Call them red-bows and have done with it... Quote Link to comment
+roziecakes Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Call them red-bows and have done with it... I love this. Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Sometimes I call non-cachers - Pickles, but that's one of the hazards we deal with while geocaching. Quote Link to comment
+Anno Lynke Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 (edited) I use the term mugger muggers steal your cash or in this case cach and it is close enough to muggle it would be easy to get people to change when you cach goes missing you have been mugged clam power Edited June 25, 2010 by Anno Lynke Quote Link to comment
+SeekerOfTheWay Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 i really like "The Others." Big Lost fan. i don't know much about Harry Potter so i didn't know the term Muggles was made popular from the books/movies until i looked it up after a few caches. i think i'm going to change all the caching terms to Lost terms. Nice ideas! Quote Link to comment
+Krazy Peeps Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I'm going to stick with "non-cachers." It's easily understood and it doesn't embarrass me to say it front of other adults. Quote Link to comment
MisterEFQ Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 When I hear the term "muggles", I think of pot. Never thought of it as a Harry Potter reference until I started caching since ive never seen nor read anything Potter. Quote Link to comment
+Krazy Peeps Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 In the Splinterheads movie, when Galaxy is at the first waterfall cache she has a name for muggles. It's when she scolds justin for pointing at it but I can't make it out. It sounds like "decachers." Quote Link to comment
+TerraViators Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 I'll do the obligatory, it's been in use long before Harry Potter, bit... http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/muggle I do feel a little bit better about it now... thanks to clarification...But I am still curious to see if we come up with our own word I think you could; but it would be hard to get the entire world caching community to catch on. Some people say "mugglers" instead... or you could just say "non-geocachers"; or you could just start using a word that you like and see what happens, perhaps others will think it's cool too. My wife always gets it wrong and calls them "moguls" Quote Link to comment
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