Help hiding a "large" cache

[+roziecakes]

Third, it's even more unreasonable to expect someone on the forums to have a look themselves, especially for an unpublished cache. Sorting out potential violations of the guidelines isn't our job. It's the (volunteer) job that the reviewers' signed up for. If someone is concerned about a potential violation of the guidelines, and is concerned about retaliation from an angry cache owner (or just doesn't want to deal with explaining the issue to the cache owner and following up later), then it's perfectly reasonable to ask a reviewer to sort it out. Don't take it personally.

 

Not only that, it's self-responsibility. Trust me, there have been many caches that I've wanted to hide, but didn't because I didn't want to violate the guidelines. Was I pissed? A little, but not enough to try to argue my way out of it. I just took responsibility for myself, shrugged it off, and moved on.

 

I just know I can't expect others to take up the slack for me... and I also know that each cache I hide might be copied by another cacher, and I need to be smart about it, because if I don't follow the guidelines it affects others.

[+briansnat]

my cache is not buried, its sunk most of the way in the ground, but does not require a shovel to get to it, or inside of it. im not sure if someone from these forums reported this disinformation to my reviewer about the multi cache i have been trying to get published for a week now, but ide appreciate it if you contact me first next time, so i can give you the coordinantes, so you can go have a look for yourself. Im trying to play the game, and abide by the rules, im reading the forums, posting questions i need answered, and answering questions to the best of my knowledge, i am not trying to offend anyone, so im sorry if you take offense to me, but if you have tried to prevent me from hiding my cache, ide like to know what the issues was you had with it. thanks.

 

The question becomes "how did you sink the cooler most of the way in the ground?" Was it quicksand? If you did any digging whatsoever to hide it, you've violated the guidelines. It is irrelevant if it requires a shovel to find it.

 

From the guidelines "If a shovel, trowel or other "pointy" object is used to dig,whether in order to hide or to find the cache, then it is not appropriate."

[+brslk]

my cache is not buried, its sunk most of the way in the ground, but does not require a shovel to get to it, or inside of it. im not sure if someone from these forums reported this disinformation to my reviewer about the multi cache i have been trying to get published for a week now, but ide appreciate it if you contact me first next time, so i can give you the coordinantes, so you can go have a look for yourself. Im trying to play the game, and abide by the rules, im reading the forums, posting questions i need answered, and answering questions to the best of my knowledge, i am not trying to offend anyone, so im sorry if you take offense to me, but if you have tried to prevent me from hiding my cache, ide like to know what the issues was you had with it. thanks.

 

The question becomes "how did you sink the cooler most of the way in the ground?" Was it quicksand? If you did any digging whatsoever to hide it, you've violated the guidelines. It is irrelevant if it requires a shovel to find it.

 

From the guidelines "If a shovel, trowel or other "pointy" object is used to dig,whether in order to hide or to find the cache, then it is not appropriate."

 

I do suspect that the cache placer will argue that it isn't buried.

It is only half submerged?

 

Caching would be way cool if we could hide stuff in the ground but it would also piss off a lot of people who could ban us....

[+GeoGeeBee]

First, many reviewers read the forums themselves, so it may be possible that no one "reported" you.

 

Yep.

 

When I placed my first cache (as opposed to the two I had previously adopted), I posted my idea on the forum and got some good feedback. When it was published, I was surprised to see the note from the reviewer that said, "I'm glad you took the advice you received on the forum."

[ashnikes]

thanks for the advice everyone, i "unsubmerged" my cache, and am re-submitting it for review for the like 10th time. I hope people have fun looking for it.

[+roziecakes]

For the record, although we've butted heads a little, I do hope that you get your cache published and that all goes well.

[+TheAlabamaRambler]

How about the ultimate ammo can - an abandoned missle silo!

 

No can use it's buried!!

Sure you can. Using existing holes is quite acceptable, we just can't dig any.

[ashnikes]

For the record, although we've butted heads a little, I do hope that you get your cache published and that all goes well.

 

its alright, anyone who comes into a forum with lots of energy, and somewhat of a voiceful opinion, gets bashed by the vets, in any forum ever. I have not taken offense to anyone in this forum, in fact i think the anger, and slander campaigns are actually pretty amusing. I also find it amusing when someone asks a question they get 35 of the same exact answer, like people write and submit their thoughts either without reading the other responses, or just feel the need to chiime in with almost carbon copies of the person above thems thouhgts on the subject. and for those of us who do not agree with the majority we get the bucket of crabs dumped on us.

 

If i were the type to take offense to any of this i would have left the forums a long time ago.

 

Honestly, i love geocatching, it hink its the coolest modern form of treasure hunting out there, i think its a great family activity, (if your kids can sit still long enough and oyu can pull them away from their iphones and xboxes for more than a few minutes) its refreshing to be outside with some sort of purpouse, and mystery destination.

 

I have a bunch of ideas for hides, and it stinks some of the guidlines prevent me from hiding them the way i want ot hide them and im glad i can come on this forum and question those guidelines, and get some honest feedback and reasons for the whys (inbetween the garbage responses that are a waste of time for the writer, as well as the lurker / reader) which is another reason i keep coming back, i read a lot more topics than i post in,

 

my cache will get published, i fixed the issues, and it now follows all guidelines, and it will be a refreshing LARGE cache nestled in between tons of the micro manias in my area.

[+brslk]

For the record, although we've butted heads a little, I do hope that you get your cache published and that all goes well.

 

its alright, anyone who comes into a forum with lots of energy, and somewhat of a voiceful opinion, gets bashed by the vets, in any forum ever. I have not taken offense to anyone in this forum, in fact i think the anger, and slander campaigns are actually pretty amusing. I also find it amusing when someone asks a question they get 35 of the same exact answer, like people write and submit their thoughts either without reading the other responses, or just feel the need to chiime in with almost carbon copies of the person above thems thouhgts on the subject. and for those of us who do not agree with the majority we get the bucket of crabs dumped on us.

 

If i were the type to take offense to any of this i would have left the forums a long time ago.

 

Honestly, i love geocatching, it hink its the coolest modern form of treasure hunting out there, i think its a great family activity, (if your kids can sit still long enough and oyu can pull them away from their iphones and xboxes for more than a few minutes) its refreshing to be outside with some sort of purpouse, and mystery destination.

 

I have a bunch of ideas for hides, and it stinks some of the guidlines prevent me from hiding them the way i want ot hide them and im glad i can come on this forum and question those guidelines, and get some honest feedback and reasons for the whys (inbetween the garbage responses that are a waste of time for the writer, as well as the lurker / reader) which is another reason i keep coming back, i read a lot more topics than i post in,

 

my cache will get published, i fixed the issues, and it now follows all guidelines, and it will be a refreshing LARGE cache nestled in between tons of the micro manias in my area.

 

[+roziecakes]

For the record, although we've butted heads a little, I do hope that you get your cache published and that all goes well.

 

its alright, anyone who comes into a forum with lots of energy, and somewhat of a voiceful opinion, gets bashed by the vets, in any forum ever. I have not taken offense to anyone in this forum, in fact i think the anger, and slander campaigns are actually pretty amusing. I also find it amusing when someone asks a question they get 35 of the same exact answer, like people write and submit their thoughts either without reading the other responses, or just feel the need to chiime in with almost carbon copies of the person above thems thouhgts on the subject. and for those of us who do not agree with the majority we get the bucket of crabs dumped on us.

 

If i were the type to take offense to any of this i would have left the forums a long time ago.

 

Honestly, i love geocatching, it hink its the coolest modern form of treasure hunting out there, i think its a great family activity, (if your kids can sit still long enough and oyu can pull them away from their iphones and xboxes for more than a few minutes) its refreshing to be outside with some sort of purpouse, and mystery destination.

 

I have a bunch of ideas for hides, and it stinks some of the guidlines prevent me from hiding them the way i want ot hide them and im glad i can come on this forum and question those guidelines, and get some honest feedback and reasons for the whys (inbetween the garbage responses that are a waste of time for the writer, as well as the lurker / reader) which is another reason i keep coming back, i read a lot more topics than i post in,

 

my cache will get published, i fixed the issues, and it now follows all guidelines, and it will be a refreshing LARGE cache nestled in between tons of the micro manias in my area.

 

You will always get honest feedback in these forums, that I know for sure. I've been using forums and the sorts of things that existed before forums since 1996, and I've been a moderator on a forum (non geocaching related) for about 3 years, and yes, if you come in to a forum atmosphere all 'great guns' at first you may not get the best reaction. This is why I think it's a good idea to 'play nice' until you can get a good idea of that particular forum's dynamics; you'll make more friends that way.

 

I'm still a relative noob on this particular forum myself, and I don't consider myself to be a 'vet' by any stretch of the imagination... but I know that most people on here post things to be helpful. Glad to know you're not taking any of it personally.

 

I'm glad you're working on getting your large cache published. We love our large cache, it's great for kids to find it, especially

[ashnikes]

got it published, hopefully someone finds it now, hahahaa

 

heres my cache in question with the cache law....

 

GC29VFJ

[+wimseyguy]

 

So if someone stabs you but only sticks the knife in part of the way, did they still not stab you technically?

 

 

*Snork* Like being a "little bit" pregnant...

 

Or like not inhaling?

[+pmolan]

From the guidelines "If a shovel, trowel or other "pointy" object is used to dig,whether in order to hide or to find the cache, then it is not appropriate."

 

If you used your bare hands, its legit (according to the rules as they are). Symantecs or not, thats why rules should be written clearly and as intended to be followed. To me, the rules state that if you need to bury or unbury a cache with a tool then it is inappropriate.

 

Sure you can. Using existing holes is quite acceptable, we just can't dig any.

 

If your buddy digs a hole somewhere and you just happen to find it, its legit.

[+pmolan]

Sorry, DUP

Edited June 20, 2010 by pmolan