Anyone ever found an indoor mark?

[+beatnik]

Check out this mark. GH0721 Walked over this mark hundreds of times while attending Oklahoma State University. I knew about benchmarks but didn't really have any clue about what they were back then. Hell, I've even helped buff this floor as a student janitor so I could pay for summer rent and beer money.

 

I plan to submit a recovery on this one since the building is now the old engineering building. Is it unique to also have an unstamped benchmark, let alone indoors?

 

-beatnik-

[sixthings]

i've never seen one indoors. the description says the disc was unstamped, but it should still have had some logo or punch mark near the center of it. it appears that the disc has been sanded or ground down (or over-zealously buffed by some student-janitor, possibly while intoxicated ) at some time in the past. it's hard to tell from the photo. is this the case?

[+beatnik]

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Originally posted by sixthings:

i've never seen one indoors. the description says the disc was unstamped, but it should still have had some logo or punch mark near the center of it. it appears that the disc has been sanded or ground down (or over-zealously buffed by some student-janitor, possibly while intoxicated ) at some time in the past. it's hard to tell from the photo. is this the case?

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I'd say that is a pretty accurate assumption. Using quick bad math I would say that it's possible that over the life of the mark it has been walked over between 2-3 million times. Hundreds of people walk down this hall every day during regular school sessions. In fact in some of the oldest buildings on campus, including this one, you can literally see a dent in the marble staircase on inside lane of the stairwell where people often rotate their foot while turning a flight going up and down.

 

I couldn't tell if there was ever anything in the middle. In fact at first I just assumed the original stamp had been erased by foot traffic and other regular traffic in the hall. I then noticed that the original log stated that it was unmarked when I got home. I didn't even have my GPS or the log sheets when I visited. I was just going from memory when I looked at the descriptions a few weeks back.

 

What I really want to know is if the mark in the yard to the south is still there and under the ground.

 

-beatnik-

[DaveD]

The National Spatial Reference System doesn't have many marks indoors, but if you perform a 0.1 mile search around the coordinates of station FREEDOM in Washington DC, which is the center of the Dome of the capitol you will find a host of marks set and positioned inside the capitol during a survey to try and locate the original cornerstone, which unfortunately was never found.

[+happycycler]

I have not found or even looked for:JC1580 but it sounds as though it is inadvertantly an inside mark now.

[+seventhings]

According to its description, JU2233 is an indoor mark. The datasheet says that it's inside a firehouse in Pennsville, NJ.

[+seventhings]

Recovered indoor mark on September 4th. http://www.geocaching.com/mark/details.asp?PID=JU2233

[+CYBret]

I've been wanting to hit this indoor benchmark since I first saw it on the list. The observatory is closed down, but I know the land manager who's in charge of the building, so I'm going to talk to him sometime soon about doing it. Should be pretty cool.

 

Bret

 

"The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field.

When a man found it, he hid it again." Mt. 13:44

[JamesAG]

Am I reading this right? Inside a building on the FIFTH floor? How in the world could this one be used?

 

HT0749

 

1952 by NGS (GOOD)

DESCRIBED BY NATIONAL GEODETIC SURVEY 1952 AT SAN FRANCISCO. AT SAN FRANCISCO, AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF HYDE AND MC ALLISTER STREETS, ON THE FIFTH FLOOR OF THE FEDERAL OFFICE BUILDING, IN THE GENERAL OFFICE ROOM OF THE U.S. WEATHER BUREAU (ROOM 557), SET VERTICALLY IN THE WEST FACE OF THE WEATHER-INSTRUMENT COLUMN, AND 3.8 FEET HIGHER THAN THE FLOOR.

[+RJFerret]

Inside a building on the FIFTH floor? How in the world could this one be used?

 

By requesting access... I read about one a week ago on the roof of a building near others I found. That'd be a bit rougher than the 5th floor... (It was also raised from the roof surface as the one you noted is above floor.)

 

Enjoy,

 

Randy

[Z15]

Years ago (maybe 20) I read in a NGS published newsletter where the would mention marks in unusual places. Someone built a home on a mountain top and inside the house was part of the natural rock and a CGS survey disk in place. I have no idea where this was.

 

I know there is one inside a house near Sault Ste Marie, Michigan. Out the country there was an old school made out of brick and later expanded to be someone's home. One of our crews were looking for marks to use and they could not find this particular one. As they were leaving, a lady pulled and asked them what the were up to. After they explained to her about the school being where her house was, she informed that it was there, just expanded and remodeled years ago, the mark was still there in her porch. I think is was a USG Mark because it does not show on my Delorme plot of marks.

Edited November 21, 2003 by elcamino

[+planetrobert]

i have one on my to do list that is in the mens room in a FS building

[+bthomas]

HS5120 atop Mount Diablo (CA) is a pin in a rock, with an observatory built over it, but with a vertical plumbline shaft to the 3 floor surveyor's platform. They say from only one other place (Mt. Kilamanjaro) can you view more land surface. You can see Half Dome one hundred miles away in Yosemite.

[+gnbrotz]

Years ago (maybe 20) I read in a NGS published newsletter where the would mention marks in unusual places.  Someone built a home on a mountain top and inside the house was part of the natural rock and a CGS survey disk in place.  I have no idea where this was.

That's very cool! Any ideas if archives of the newsletters exist anywhere? Sounds like another impossible project I need to add to my list. Then I'll just have to convince the current owner to sell the property to me and save up the thousands of dollars it will cost me to buy it.

[Z15]

I am not aware there is any archive on this. I think this was a newsletter for NGS employees and friends. Out department use to receive a copy and thats where I saw it. I cannot remember what it was called, something like "Geodetic Newsletter"??

 

There was a another interesting recovery note they mentioned, As I recall they mark was on an artillery range on the Army based and the recover notes were a little comical in how the mentioned that fact.

 

On another note.

There was also an article in "Professional Surveyor' some years back that dealt with the history of USC & GS. Had some neat old photos of them working in Kansas or whatever. I can find every magazine copy but that one? Within the last 5 yrs if I recall correctly. I even searched the online archives (ps mag) but can't find it.

[+GEO*Trailblazer 1]

I found 1 inside the school at Aurora Missouri,and there is another one close that is in the kitchen of the school will add link soon I can't remember the pid #'s right off. I will have to look them up.