+Criminal Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 I know what that means. I don't know why. Does anybody know why benchmarks along the water (Puget Sound) were placed below the water line? I can see how it would keep people from vandalizing them. But wouldn’t that mean the surveyor would have to wait until low tide to use them? Also, a benchmark had this description: “IT IS LOCATED AT THE EAST SIDE OF THE RIPRAP ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY.” What is a “riprap”? If your house catches afire, and there aint no water around, If your house catches afire, and there aint no water around, Throw your jelly out the window; let the dog-gone shack burn down. **Huddie Ledbetter** Quote Link to comment
+rogbarn Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 For the placement below water line, I can only guess that it either helps prevent vandelism (as you mentioned) or possibly there's less pounding from waves when it's below water most of the time and thus more likely to maintain its position. Riprap is large rock placed along the water to prevent erosion. The riprap along the back side of the beach where I grew up was 10 or 20 feet across, so I'm talking about very large rock. It was quarried granite. Even that gets moved around in big storms, but better that then losing the whole section of beach. Quote Link to comment
+majicman Posted September 30, 2002 Share Posted September 30, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Criminal:(snip) What is a “riprap”? (snip) I believe that is a new fad in rap songs where the lyrics are about the singer's torn pants, hung low, just above the knees... Or perhaps not? --majicman Quote Link to comment
+Criminal Posted September 30, 2002 Author Share Posted September 30, 2002 Are you back? I wasn't even baiting you! Good to have you back at my six. Would have helped a ways back when a couple "docs" tried to rile me....... If your house catches afire, and there aint no water around, If your house catches afire, and there aint no water around, Throw your jelly out the window; let the dog-gone shack burn down. **Huddie Ledbetter** Quote Link to comment
iryshe Posted September 30, 2002 Share Posted September 30, 2002 http://www.iversonsoftware.com/geology/r/riprap.htm Jeremy Irish Groundspeak - The Language of Location Quote Link to comment
+Criminal Posted September 30, 2002 Author Share Posted September 30, 2002 You got some reason to be riding me? I want to hear not just the definition but maybe some personal anecdote. I got both from RogBarn. Where’s the beef? If your house catches afire, and there aint no water around, If your house catches afire, and there aint no water around, Throw your jelly out the window; let the dog-gone shack burn down. **Huddie Ledbetter** Quote Link to comment
+Criminal Posted September 30, 2002 Author Share Posted September 30, 2002 You got some reason to be riding me? I want to hear not just the definition but maybe some personal anecdote. I got both from RogBarn. Where’s the beef? If your house catches afire, and there aint no water around, If your house catches afire, and there aint no water around, Throw your jelly out the window; let the dog-gone shack burn down. **Huddie Ledbetter** Quote Link to comment
+rogbarn Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Jeremy (Admin):http://www.iversonsoftware.com/geology/r/riprap.htm Actually, I was glad to see the reference to iverson as I had never seen it before. It looks like a useful site for those quick term lookups that come up here. I also went thru google but only went to one site that had a ton of pictures (looonnnngg download time on dialup) of various riprap projects mostly along small streams so I didn't include it. Quote Link to comment
Jeremy Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 It wasn't meant to be flip. I found it interesting that there was a whole glossary on a results page so quickly. Jeremy Irish Groundspeak - The Language of Location Quote Link to comment
+majicman Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Criminal:Are you back? I wasn't even baiting you! Good to have you back at my six. Would have helped a ways back when a couple "docs" tried to rile me....... All things come to him who waits... (or a reasonable facsimile thereof?) Also, I found Jeremy's post very poignant. I rather enjoy learning the real definitions to new words I didn't know... especially if I can first make a pun of it. And to answer your queery: I may be back, but that sounds metaphysically absurd, doesn't it? --majicman BigSig rules to live by: 1.) Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out of it alive! Quote Link to comment
+Criminal Posted October 1, 2002 Author Share Posted October 1, 2002 Jeremy, glad you weren’t being flip. I wasn’t looking forward to driving up to Seattle this weekend to look for you. But how hard would it be, I have those two pics of you. (You do walk around like that all the time right?) Majicman: Quote: ______________________________________________ All things come to him who waits... (or a reasonable facsimile thereof?) ______________________________________________ That’s a sexist statement and inappropriate to the thread. _________________________________________________ Also, I found Jeremy's post very poignant. I rather enjoy learning the real definitions to new words I didn't know... especially if I can first make a pun of it. ________________________________________________ I expect better puns and quips than that. You got rusty. ________________________________________________ And to answer your queery: I may be back, but that sounds metaphysically absurd, doesn't it? _________________________________________________ Absurd that you're back, or that you "got back"? Anyway, I added the question about the def of riprap as an aside to my real question about why so many of the benchmarks around here are under the dadgum water. Nobody bothered answering that one. So see, I can be a smartass and get this thread back on topic. Nonetheless, Thursday is supposed to be a really “low” low tide (only .2 feet) in the harbor. Jeremy or any other locals who’d like to play hooky from work can meet me under the Narrows Bridge and log some of them. If your house catches afire, and there aint no water around, If your house catches afire, and there aint no water around, Throw your jelly out the window; let the dog-gone shack burn down. **Huddie Ledbetter** Quote Link to comment
+Criminal Posted October 1, 2002 Author Share Posted October 1, 2002 Jeremy, glad you weren’t being flip. I wasn’t looking forward to driving up to Seattle this weekend to look for you. But how hard would it be, I have those two pics of you. (You do walk around like that all the time right?) Majicman: Quote: ______________________________________________ All things come to him who waits... (or a reasonable facsimile thereof?) ______________________________________________ That’s a sexist statement and inappropriate to the thread. _________________________________________________ Also, I found Jeremy's post very poignant. I rather enjoy learning the real definitions to new words I didn't know... especially if I can first make a pun of it. ________________________________________________ I expect better puns and quips than that. You got rusty. ________________________________________________ And to answer your queery: I may be back, but that sounds metaphysically absurd, doesn't it? _________________________________________________ Absurd that you're back, or that you "got back"? Anyway, I added the question about the def of riprap as an aside to my real question about why so many of the benchmarks around here are under the dadgum water. Nobody bothered answering that one. So see, I can be a smartass and get this thread back on topic. Nonetheless, Thursday is supposed to be a really “low” low tide (only .2 feet) in the harbor. Jeremy or any other locals who’d like to play hooky from work can meet me under the Narrows Bridge and log some of them. If your house catches afire, and there aint no water around, If your house catches afire, and there aint no water around, Throw your jelly out the window; let the dog-gone shack burn down. **Huddie Ledbetter** Quote Link to comment
+rogbarn Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 quote:Originally posted by RogBarn:For the placement below water line, I can only guess that it either helps prevent vandelism (as you mentioned) or possibly there's less pounding from waves when it's below water most of the time and thus more likely to maintain its position. I did reply to the problem of the benchmarks being underwater but I think it got lost in all the riprap that followed..... Quote Link to comment
+rogbarn Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 quote:Originally posted by RogBarn:For the placement below water line, I can only guess that it either helps prevent vandelism (as you mentioned) or possibly there's less pounding from waves when it's below water most of the time and thus more likely to maintain its position. I did reply to the problem of the benchmarks being underwater but I think it got lost in all the riprap that followed..... Quote Link to comment
+Black Dog Trackers Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 Global warming; the polecaps are melting!!!! Quote Link to comment
+Black Dog Trackers Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 Global warming; the polecaps are melting!!!! Quote Link to comment
survey tech Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 The only markers I have ever seen underwater were set there simply because thats where the exposed concrete was, such as in a bridge foundation, and no other solid surface was available in the area. I suppose there may be some set in this manner in order to make measurements of the water level easy, perhaps for tidal measurements. Its also true that benchmarks are often found at gaging stations along flood prone watercourses where they are used to forecast flood levels. Quote Link to comment
+Criminal Posted October 2, 2002 Author Share Posted October 2, 2002 Rog and Survey, Thanks for your input. Here in the Puget Sound I have to check the tide tables first or it’ll be a waste of time. First, the beach disappears or becomes impassable at higher tides. Second, the disks are below the mean high water line. This means I have to wait for a LOW low tide. The answer may be simply that the survey marks are ringing the landmasses, that may make the job of inland surveying easier. I am planning an expedition out to Anderson island in the near future to pick up the three caches and dozen benchmarks out there. But I have to factor in the tides and the ferry schedule. Somehow that makes it all the more fun. The other reason I think they put them there came to me yesterday while hunting benchmarks on the Base here. A full set of them were destroyed during some construction. Nobody’s building below the waterline. If your house catches afire, and there aint no water around, If your house catches afire, and there aint no water around, Throw your jelly out the window; let the dog-gone shack burn down. **Huddie Ledbetter** Quote Link to comment
Couch_Potato Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 The continent is overpopulated and has started sinking. I'm not lost! I just don't know where I am. Quote Link to comment
Couch_Potato Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 The continent is overpopulated and has started sinking. I'm not lost! I just don't know where I am. Quote Link to comment
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