FTF for all that finds this cache i don't like it

[+tsnyder88]

the cache is F.T.F.......Estero (GC128Z8) i don't like this what do you all think

[+narcissa]

Why don't you like it? FTF isn't an "official" part of geocaching at Groundspeak, so what's the problem?

[+briansnat]

It's absurd, but if people want to claim FTF on any cache who am I to tell them not to? There is no guideline about being silly.

[4wheelin_fool]

the cache is F.T.F.......Estero (GC128Z8) i don't like this what do you all think

 

It's satire.

 

Do you think there really is 74 FTFs on it?

Edited April 29, 2010 by 4wheelin_fool

[+cx1]

I like it. A new twist on the typical guardrail hide. I'm sure some will complain about the ALR's but it doesn't bother me.

[+Jumpin' Jack Cache]

Started as a fun ALR cache and was changed to fit the new rules. What's not to like? Just a CO trying to add some fun. Got a somewhat similar one myself.

[+tsnyder88]

i don't like it because there should only be one FTF for a cache if say i was the tenth to find it that is not FTF

Edited April 29, 2010 by tsnyder88

[+Jumpin' Jack Cache]

Change First to Fun

 

And loosen your shorts (or panties) a bit...

[+narcissa]

i don't like it because there should only be one FTF for a cache if say i was the tenth to find it that is not FTF

 

Can you please point me to Groundspeak's official rules about FTF?

[+Jumpin' Jack Cache]

Right over there ---------------------------->

[+tsnyder88]

i don't like it because there should only be one FTF for a cache if say i was the tenth to find it that is not FTF

 

Can you please point me to Groundspeak's official rules about FTF?

 

there are no official rules about this i joist don't think it is right

[+Jaywebb]

If you don't like it don't find it........ I think it's a fun idea

[+Jumpin' Jack Cache]

Well then, if I were you, since you are a premium member and the hide date is earlier than your join date, thus being a good indication that you were indeed not the First to Find, and it's in FL and you're in CO, I'd just put it on my ignore list and, like, ignore it.

[+Vater_Araignee]

i don't like it because there should only be one FTF for a cache if say i was the tenth to find it that is not FTF

FTF, first to find

FTF, fourth to find

FTF, fifth to find

FTF, fourteenth to find

FTF, fifteenth to find

FTF, fortieth - fifty ninth to find

FTF, four hundredth - five hundred and ninety ninth to find

Should I keep going? That is already 225 FTFs. I can quickly add another 2k to it. If there should only be one then that means no cache should have more than three finds.

[+tsnyder88]

i don't like it because there should only be one FTF for a cache if say i was the tenth to find it that is not FTF

FTF, first to find

FTF, fourth to find

FTF, fifth to find

FTF, fourteenth to find

FTF, fifteenth to find

FTF, fortieth - fifty ninth to find

FTF, four hundredth - five hundred and ninety ninth to find

Should I keep going? That is already 225 FTFs. I can quickly add another 2k to it. If there should only be one then that means no cache should have more than three finds.

 

FTF as in first to find

[+narcissa]

 

there are no official rules about this i joist don't think it is right

 

So what?

[+Vater_Araignee]

FTF as in first to find

Doesn't negate the fact that there can be more than one FTF.

But why listen to me, I cheer a crowd in NC because they will hit a FTF but refuse to log it till after the local hound has a chance to find out he wasn't first, and you just go on being ticked about something inconsequential that is also out of your control.

[+joespaz]

i don't like it because there should only be one FTF for a cache if say i was the tenth to find it that is not FTF

 

Can you please point me to Groundspeak's official rules about FTF?

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[+joespaz]

I like it. A new twist on the typical guardrail hide. I'm sure some will complain about the ALR's but it doesn't bother me.

I like the fact that the cache owner is clear that if you don't do the ALR's your cache will NOT be deleted. (just ridiculed)

[+joespaz]

the cache is F.T.F.......Estero (GC128Z8) i don't like this what do you all think

 

The only thing I don't like is the lack of a known spot for the cache coords.

 

I wish the CO would ask people to post the new coords. when they move the cache, he could make that part of the puzzle aspect.

 

I think the spirit of the game "Geocaching" (with capitol G) is that all caches are at a set location, which cachers can figure out by reading the cache page, or doing a puzzle.

 

But, I really like the IDEA, it is different and interesting!

[+Jumpin' Jack Cache]

It's on a freakin' guardrail, look/feel until ya find it. Not like a GPSr with corrected coords is gonna get ya right there...

[+thedeadpirate]

[+joespaz]

It's on a freakin' guardrail, look/feel until ya find it. Not like a GPSr with corrected coords is gonna get ya right there...

 

Do yo know how long the guard rail is?

 

It appears to be over 1,000 feet long with around 179 guardrail posts. Therefore I DO think a new GPS coord. would help, even if multiple people found it in the same day you would have an idea where to start.

 

Also, all I said is it isn't in the spirit of the game.

Edited April 29, 2010 by joespaz

[+Jumpin' Jack Cache]

 

Can you play "Free Bird" on that thing?

 

Or "Devil Went Down to Georgia"?

[+Walts Hunting]

there are no official rules about this i joist don't think it is right

 

So even if their are no rules you want to impose your view on the community. There are many views of what is right and why does it bother you? It is more than 1500 miles from you. You don't even have to bother with the ignore list, it will never show up in your PQ.

 

There are many more things to be upset about such as why micros are still allowed. Now banning them would be great or move them to a subset of Waymarking.

 

I wish the CO would ask people to post the new coords. when they move the cache,

 

Actually traveling caches were prohibited long ago and I am very surprised this one got past a reviewer or maybe it wasn't phrased like this when it was reviewed.

 

Either way there is nothing here that can't be cured with two Margaritas.

[+Jumpin' Jack Cache]

I tried that "two Margaritas" thing

 

My wife beat the heck out of all three of us

[+Vater_Araignee]

there are no official rules about this i joist don't think it is right

 

So even if their are no rules you want to impose your view on the community. There are many views of what is right and why does it bother you? It is more than 1500 miles from you. You don't even have to bother with the ignore list, it will never show up in your PQ.

 

There are many more things to be upset about such as why micros are still allowed. Now banning them would be great or move them to a subset of Waymarking.

 

I wish the CO would ask people to post the new coords. when they move the cache,

 

Actually traveling caches were prohibited long ago and I am very surprised this one got past a reviewer or maybe it wasn't phrased like this when it was reviewed.

 

Either way there is nothing here that can't be cured with two Margaritas.

Actually I bet the reviewer required that both ends of the rail have points and any spot that did not fall within those radii, maybe even every support post. That is basically how musical lamp post caches get approved, every post involved has to have a waypoint.

[+joespaz]

I am sitting here discussing this one at home. It was pointed out to me that it is possible the reviewer has more information then we do on the cache page. It is possible that the CO reported the coords of all the guardrails, and let the reviewer know that the cache would always be at one of these spots.

 

Therefore it does fall within the rules of having a defined area, unlike a "movable" cache which was allowed to go anywhere and no one would know where.

 

Now...where can I find a nice guardrail around here to use for my own version?!?

[4wheelin_fool]

I thought about it some.

 

I'm probably going to lie awake all night worrying about the 73+ bogus FTFs on that cache.

 

Since Groundspeak DOESNT CARE about FTFs, it makes it even worse.

 

Dreaming of people yelling FTF over and over on a 3 year old guardrail keyholder.

 

AAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!

 

 

 

I know Adrian Monk would be upset.

 

[+The Blorenges]

There are quite a few of these "Everyone Can Be a FTF on This Cache" type of hides around. There's one over here where you just have to make a 'unique' FTF claim e.g. FTF on a Monday, FTF with a labrador dog, FTF holding an umbrella, FTF naked (yes, there was one).

 

It's just a bit of fun so if you don't personally like the idea, just move on to the next one...

 

MrsB

[+The Chaos Crew]

FTF naked (yes, there was one).

 

was there photographic proof?

[+Harry Dolphin]

I FTFed one like that. It was silly. but it was fun. Not sure why anyone would get their knickers in a twist over it.

[+The Blorenges]

FTF naked (yes, there was one).

 

was there photographic proof?

 

Yes, I believe there was (a very discreet one)

 

I was just trying to find the link to the cache but I'm not sure who placed it now... I'm wondering whether it might have been archived because I think it had an ALR that requested a photograph with each log so perhaps the owners decided that the fun was at an end once the ALR was done away with.

 

MrsB

Edited April 29, 2010 by The Blorenges

[+joranda]

We have one like that close to home. It is a play it forward kind of thing. We all know that everone after the first finder really didn't find it first. If something like this is the only thing making you have a bad day then feel good about it.

[Mr.Yuck]

There are quite a few of these "Everyone Can Be a FTF on This Cache" type of hides around. There's one over here where you just have to make a 'unique' FTF claim e.g. FTF on a Monday, FTF with a labrador dog, FTF holding an umbrella, FTF naked (yes, there was one).

 

It's just a bit of fun so if you don't personally like the idea, just move on to the next one...

 

MrsB

 

Yes, there are many such caches. But I've never heard of one exactly like the one Mrs. B is describing, or the one mentioned by the OP for that matter. I think they're both rather funny.

[+TheAlabamaRambler]

FTF naked (yes, there was one).

 

was there photographic proof?

Go to a geocaching event. Take a look at your fellow geocachers. Do you still want naked pictures?

[+BulldogBlitz]

i love it!

 

There are a few hounds here who are verbose on their FTFs, and then on the ones they fail to get FTF - enjoy telling everyone their excuses for not getting out there 10 minutes after it was received on their smart phones.

 

....now let me see how it can be twisted into fitting a "power trail"....hmmm.

[+CanDMan47]

There are three of these in my area. The best thing about them is that they make a (in my opinion) boring guard rail hide a little less boring. Of course I found them, I need the smileys

[+Ms.Scrabbler]

I think this sounds like a whole lot of fun!

Every cache we find is a FTF for us - first time found by the Scrabblers (of course we don't log it as such)

The logs on this cache are fun to read. if you don't like it, don't go, it's all spelled out so you know what you're going after before you leave the house.

I like it!

[+Castle Mischief]

FTF naked (yes, there was one).

 

was there photographic proof?

Go to a geocaching event. Take a look at your fellow geocachers. Do you still want naked pictures?

 

When I saw Signal in TN he wasn't wearing pants.

[+OldLog]

No where near my home but seems like just a fun thing and I see no harm in it. Life is too short to sweat the small stuff and at this stage of my life it is all small stuff. So for those that want too go for it.

Edited April 29, 2010 by OldLog

[+Castle Mischief]

i don't like it because there should only be one FTF for a cache if say i was the tenth to find it that is not FTF

 

Can you please point me to Groundspeak's official rules about FTF?

 

there are no official rules about this i joist don't think it is right

 

You do realize that the only place that a "FTF statistic" exists is either on your profile page- if you put it there or on the cache page- if the CO puts it there.

 

I could, if I felt so inclined, change my profile page to say that I was FTF on every single cache I've found. Would anybody be able to do anything about it? No. Should anybody care? Probably not.*

 

This CO is doing the same thing for his cache page.

 

I think the Greek philosopher Plato summed it up best when he said, "whoopity-flipping-do".

 

*Would somebody gripe on the forums about it? Most assuredly.

[+The Blorenges]

 

... I think the Greek philosopher Plato summed it up best when he said, "whoopity-flipping-do".

 

 

 

I think you may be confusing him with Archimedes who is well-known for shouting "Eureka!" when he found his submerged lunchbox while taking a bath.

 

 

MrsB

[+Castle Mischief]

 

... I think the Greek philosopher Plato summed it up best when he said, "whoopity-flipping-do".

 

 

 

I think you may be confusing him with Archimedes who is well-known for shouting "Eureka!" when he found his submerged lunchbox while taking a bath.

 

 

MrsB

 

It wouldn't be the frist time. Thanks for pointing that out.

[+Setan Meyacha]

the cache is F.T.F.......Estero (GC128Z8) i don't like this what do you all think

 

Seems you might have a bit more time on your hands that could be put to better use; say, searching for caches around where you live rather than searching the website for caches in other states to complain about. Unless you are planning a trip to that particular location, why should it concern you what someone is doing there? If the cache falls within the guidelines of geocaching, what difference does it make if someone gets to claim a FTF when they are the 125th person to find it? Will it make a big impact on the way things are done ten years from now? If not, pull the wedgie out of your crack and enjoy life.

[+maggi101]

You'll live.

 

(also, obvious troll is obvious)

[+roziecakes]

 

Can you play "Free Bird" on that thing?

 

Or "Devil Went Down to Georgia"?

 

I actually can play 'Free Bird' on my violin

 

To the OP, I think this is a really fun idea. It's different, that's for sure. I love it! I'd probably go find it. Just put it on your ignore list, that's the thing to do for caches you don't like. No law that says you have to find all of them.

 

I know from living in Colorado, where you do, that there are tons of great caches to find in the area, so you won't miss out. Try the virtual on top of Mt. Evans, it's awesome!

Edited April 29, 2010 by nymphnsatyr

[+humboldt flier]

Hmmmmmm, the silliness is what makes it appealing.

 

Lets see FTF Hounds is a term bandied about on this thread. Number Whores is a term bandied about on the TOTG threads.

 

In the words of that great American Philosopher, Rodney King ... " Can't we just get along "

 

Take care, have a great day and Geo-Hugzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz to all.

[+briansnat]

 

... I think the Greek philosopher Plato summed it up best when he said, "whoopity-flipping-do".

 

 

 

I think what he said was φύλου ξεφωνητό κάνουμε

[+humboldt flier]

 

... I think the Greek philosopher Plato summed it up best when he said, "whoopity-flipping-do".

 

 

 

I think what he said was φύλου ξεφωνητό κάνουμε

That just about says it all