+legoboyjj Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Friday April 16th. Rain or Shine, zsteve and myself (legoboyjj) cached for 24 hours straight to try to break the unofficial world records that had been set the two weeks prior to our trip. We were freaking out when these caches were archived one day before we were to leave. A quick email confirmation that the caches were still in place we hit the road. We left Eugene Oregon at 4pm on Wednesday and drove all night caching all day Thursday. We got five hours of sleep on Thursday evening and were ready to go at midnight. We started on the flats to the west of the mine road. Think we only dnfed 5 caches all day but did find two cache containers at four different cache sites which were "replacement" caches. I took some video of our crazy trip to show everyone what it was like to run the "Trail of the Gods". Will post video to YouTube later. We finished the TotGs, the presidents and the Phobia series by 6:00pm which was way ahead of our expectations. After that we scrambled to find what we could which dropped our cache average significantly. We had a single hour cache record of 51 finds on the stretch heading into Primm. We rallied in my 96' Toyota Forunner with 175k miles on it and a set of new tires. Happy to say she held up and did great. We are all pretty tired but had a blast. Our numbers keeping was the one thing that failed us as if we had known we were only 5 away from 700 we wouldn't have stopped early. We are almost home and have found a total of 902 caches in the four days. Our hour counts were: Hr1-48 Hr2-47 Hr3-25 Hr4-27 Hr5-31 Hr6-31 Hr7-40 Hr8-43 Hr9-35 Hr10-16 --gas Hr11-36 Hr12-39 Hr13-42 Hr14-21 Hr15-27 Hr16-51 Hr17-30 Hr18-43 Hr19-17 Hr20-16 Hr21-14 Hr22-5 Hr23-9 Hr24-2 total: 695 Quote
+benh57 Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Funniest part is learning that the 4 'missing' caches were not in fact missing. I trust those cachers who replaced them will delete their finds... Quote
4wheelin_fool Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 (edited) That's it. I QUIT!!! Edited April 19, 2010 by 4wheelin_fool Quote
Mr.Yuck Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Another day, another world record. I'm just sitting back waiting for the reports to come in from the Austrailian Power Trail Quote
+Casting Crowns Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Another day, another world record. I'm just sitting back waiting for the reports to come in from the Austrailian Power Trail O......M.....G!!! Quote
4wheelin_fool Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Another day, another world record. I'm just sitting back waiting for the reports to come in from the Austrailian Power Trail 1001 caches nailed to trees, with logsheets that hold 25 sigs. The cache owner is going to "find" them all on a maintenence run to beat the record. Why am I not impressed? Quote
Mr.Yuck Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Before I derail this thread even further, and undermine the accomplishment of Legoboy et al, the Aussie Power Trail was an april fools joke. It was a little early on March 31st, but I'll blame that on the International Date Line, and stuff. Sure is a nice parody of what's coming next though. I foresee a power trail on paved roads every 529 feet, with identically hidden keyholders on the back of road signs. And new world records, of course. Quote
+Klondike Mike Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Before I derail this thread even further, and undermine the accomplishment of Legoboy et al, the Aussie Power Trail was an april fools joke. It was a little early on March 31st, but I'll blame that on the International Date Line, and stuff. Sure is a nice parody of what's coming next though. I foresee a power trail on paved roads every 529 feet, with identically hidden keyholders on the back of road signs. And new world records, of course. I think a flat piece of plexiglass or plastic with a rite in the rain sheet pasted on one side would be much faster. Those who like to sign their name can write on the paper while the others slap their stickers on the back side. Saves alot of time for everyone Quote
+Team Geo-Rangers Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Friday April 16th. Rain or Shine, zsteve and myself (legoboyjj) cached for 24 hours straight to try to break the unofficial world records that had been set the two weeks prior to our trip. We were freaking out when these caches were archived one day before we were to leave. A quick email confirmation that the caches were still in place we hit the road. We left Eugene Oregon at 4pm on Wednesday and drove all night caching all day Thursday. We got five hours of sleep on Thursday evening and were ready to go at midnight. We started on the flats to the west of the mine road. Think we only dnfed 5 caches all day but did find two cache containers at four different cache sites which were "replacement" caches. I took some video of our crazy trip to show everyone what it was like to run the "Trail of the Gods". Will post video to YouTube later. We finished the TotGs, the presidents and the Phobia series by 6:00pm which was way ahead of our expectations. After that we scrambled to find what we could which dropped our cache average significantly. We had a single hour cache record of 51 finds on the stretch heading into Primm. We rallied in my 96' Toyota Forunner with 175k miles on it and a set of new tires. Happy to say she held up and did great. We are all pretty tired but had a blast. Our numbers keeping was the one thing that failed us as if we had known we were only 5 away from 700 we wouldn't have stopped early. We are almost home and have found a total of 902 caches in the four days. Our hour counts were: Hr1-48 Hr2-47 Hr3-25 Hr4-27 Hr5-31 Hr6-31 Hr7-40 Hr8-43 Hr9-35 Hr10-16 --gas Hr11-36 Hr12-39 Hr13-42 Hr14-21 Hr15-27 Hr16-51 Hr17-30 Hr18-43 Hr19-17 Hr20-16 Hr21-14 Hr22-5 Hr23-9 Hr24-2 total: 695 Congratulations Rain or Shine, zsteve and legoboyjj - that's a pretty impressive number! Quote
Mr.Yuck Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 (edited) Congrats and WOW ! Now that the thread is back on track, congrats. I didn't think anything quicker than 2 minutes/cache was physically possible, but you came close to that, even in the desert. Edited April 19, 2010 by TheWhiteUrkel Quote
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 In hour 16 they logged 51 Caches! Almost one cache per minute... That in itself is incredible! Quote
+ventura_kids Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Congratulations on your new world record. 695 archived caches in 24 hours has never been done. I am now searching my neighborhood archived caches for another powercaching trail. I'm certain that in one spot, over 3 caches have been archived. If I can find all three of them, do I get to log all three? They are within 30 feet of each other. Quote
+BBWolf+3Pigs Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 OK...I gotta ask. How do you do 50 caches in an hour? Did everyone leave the vehicle, or just the designator "signer"? Quote
+sbell111 Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Congratulations on your new world record. 695 archived caches in 24 hours has never been done. I am now searching my neighborhood archived caches for another powercaching trail. I'm certain that in one spot, over 3 caches have been archived. If I can find all three of them, do I get to log all three? They are within 30 feet of each other. Why do you have to be snarky regarding anyone's attempts other than yours? It's kind of sad. Quote
+sbell111 Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 OK...I gotta ask. How do you do 50 caches in an hour? Did everyone leave the vehicle, or just the designator "signer"? I suspect that multiple people need to get out just to keep the times down. One person opens the cache and hands the log to someone else who signs it and places the log back into the container. Person one then closes the container and then replaces it. Quote
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Congratulations on your new world record. 695 archived caches in 24 hours has never been done. I am now searching my neighborhood archived caches for another powercaching trail. I'm certain that in one spot, over 3 caches have been archived. If I can find all three of them, do I get to log all three? They are within 30 feet of each other. Why do you have to be snarky regarding anyone's attempts other than yours? It's kind of sad. Hopefully it's just in god fun...after all, that's what these threads are all about, right? I was a little mixed up though...I don't see anyone insinuating that they logged multiple finds in one location. If someone DID fing three existing (archived) Cached within 30 feet of each other, of course all three could be logged. Anyway, that's a little off topic I guess...congratulations to the new record holders!! Quote
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Funniest part is learning that the 4 'missing' caches were not in fact missing. I trust those cachers who replaced them will delete their finds... Well, I'm not going to get into an arguement about the basic concept of logging a find when in fact you are the one dropping a replacement(that's between the owner and the finder) but I would like to point out that(as far as I remember reading)...four of the Caches were indeed missing at one point when a Power worker removed them, perhaps they were returned by the worker after the substitute Caches were placed? I like to think that this is what happened, rather than a find crew just dropping Caches when they THOUGHT they were missing. It seems reasonable to me. Quote
+atmospherium Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Congrats on your New! World! Record! Sounds like you had fun. I wonder if we're getting close to the maximum number of caches that can be found in an hour. These latest power runs have been done by teams. I would like to see how many can be done by 1 person. A cache a minute? Quote
+briansnat Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 I think that someone should try this leaving a fully gassed up vehicle at the mid point, thus eliminating the need to stop for gas. That will break the 700 barrier easily. Quote
+ventura_kids Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 Congrats on your New! World! Record! Sounds like you had fun. I wonder if we're getting close to the maximum number of caches that can be found in an hour. These latest power runs have been done by teams. I would like to see how many can be done by 1 person. A cache a minute? Not even close. I'm quite certain the maximum number will be around 1200 finds. You can see the new record holders did 695 finds and still had a couple of hours left over. If there were more caches anywhere nearby, they could possibly have added another 100 finds to the record. And....these caches are all about a quarter mile apart....zig zagging in rough terrain. 1200 here we come ! Oh ....and congratulations to the new record holders ! Quote
+humboldt flier Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 (edited) Congrats on your New! World! Record! Sounds like you had fun. I wonder if we're getting close to the maximum number of caches that can be found in an hour. These latest power runs have been done by teams. I would like to see how many can be done by 1 person. A cache a minute? Lil Devil sure put up some serious numbers in a solo expedition. Edited April 20, 2010 by humboldt flier Quote
+Dread_Pirate_Bruce Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 In almost any other circumstance I'd say that you can't log a find if you are the one who puts out the replacement. However, since these caches were so easy to find, it is really irrelevant who put it out. Quote
+Insp Gadget Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 Congrats guys on beating the world record. Personally I don't understand how that many caches can be found. Lets take that 51 in one hour for example. That's almost one per minute. Considering that a cache can't be closer than 200m apart, how do you drive that distance, get out, find the cache, etc etc etc, in less than a minute???? How many people were there? How many vehicles? I wonder if the new record holders could give us some tips to us? Not trying to rain on their parade, I'm really happy for them, but how does one do this??? Quote
+sbell111 Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 Congrats guys on beating the world record. Personally I don't understand how that many caches can be found. Lets take that 51 in one hour for example. That's almost one per minute. Considering that a cache can't be closer than 200m apart, how do you drive that distance, get out, find the cache, etc etc etc, in less than a minute???? How many people were there? How many vehicles? I wonder if the new record holders could give us some tips to us? Not trying to rain on their parade, I'm really happy for them, but how does one do this??? The key is that you have to be wicked fast and keep being wicked fast. You have to have a good plan and stick to it. Everyone involved in the mission must understand their job and get it done. There's no time for tagalongs. Quote
+roziecakes Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 Congratulations you guys!!! I had heard about this record being made, but I didn't realize it was you guys! That's amazing You must be really proud. Yay to our local Willamette Valley cachers. Great job!!! Quote
+legoboyjj Posted April 20, 2010 Author Posted April 20, 2010 Congrats guys on beating the world record. Personally I don't understand how that many caches can be found. Lets take that 51 in one hour for example. That's almost one per minute. Considering that a cache can't be closer than 200m apart, how do you drive that distance, get out, find the cache, etc etc etc, in less than a minute???? How many people were there? How many vehicles? I wonder if the new record holders could give us some tips to us? Not trying to rain on their parade, I'm really happy for them, but how does one do this??? We had three people and one vehicle. Planning was key. Talking with others who had made the run gave us many tips. We used aerial views on my Garmin Colorado GPS which helped keep us on the right roads. Once the cache was in hand it only took a few seconds for one guy to pull the log and the other guy there to put the sticker on. Fast driving was also a big key. We rallied pretty fast out on those desert roads. Quote
+Team Geo-Rangers Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Congrats guys on beating the world record. Personally I don't understand how that many caches can be found. Lets take that 51 in one hour for example. That's almost one per minute. Considering that a cache can't be closer than 200m apart, how do you drive that distance, get out, find the cache, etc etc etc, in less than a minute???? How many people were there? How many vehicles? I wonder if the new record holders could give us some tips to us? Not trying to rain on their parade, I'm really happy for them, but how does one do this??? We had three people and one vehicle. Planning was key. Talking with others who had made the run gave us many tips. We used aerial views on my Garmin Colorado GPS which helped keep us on the right roads. Once the cache was in hand it only took a few seconds for one guy to pull the log and the other guy there to put the sticker on. Fast driving was also a big key. We rallied pretty fast out on those desert roads. Did NGA add any new caches since our trip? We did all three power trails and a few extra caches around it to get 626. All were active; none were archived. We did not seek any LPCs so avoided those around the casinos. Even if we did them, our number would not be close to 695. In fact, we found one more just past midnight on the Phobia trail and so didn't count it. You guys must have been really moving fast out there, great job!!! Congratulations on the unofficial world record, and more importantly, not having any injuries or vehicle problems?! Quote
+hukilaulau Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Congratulations on your new world record. 695 archived caches in 24 hours has never been done. I am now searching my neighborhood archived caches for another powercaching trail. I'm certain that in one spot, over 3 caches have been archived. If I can find all three of them, do I get to log all three? They are within 30 feet of each other. Why do you have to be snarky regarding anyone's attempts other than yours? It's kind of sad. OK then, let me be the snark... the caches were archived. The land owners or managers didn't want people trampling around out there anymore. Groundspeak agreed. These guys decide it doesn't mean them. And all except one post is congratulating them? That's what I don't get. Have I got something wrong here? Quote
+roziecakes Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 (edited) Made my decision on how I feel, see my post below. Edited April 21, 2010 by nymphnsatyr Quote
knowschad Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Congratulations on your new world record. 695 archived caches in 24 hours has never been done. I am now searching my neighborhood archived caches for another powercaching trail. I'm certain that in one spot, over 3 caches have been archived. If I can find all three of them, do I get to log all three? They are within 30 feet of each other. Why do you have to be snarky regarding anyone's attempts other than yours? It's kind of sad. That's the way I felt about that post, too. Archived caches are loggable. No need to cut someone down because they logged some recently archived caches. Quote
+roziecakes Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 (edited) So I've been reading some of the logs on these caches, etc; and it looks like some folks who found the caches after they had been archived had asked permission to come get them because they had already booked their flights, etc. Perhaps in other cases of folks logging after they were archived it may have been because they were in transit while the archiving happened and didn't know they had been archived yet when they went to find them. I've seen that happen a lot with other caches... legoboyjj, any comments on this? I do have to say that although I do not know legoboyjj well, I have met him, gone on a nightcache with him, and I know that he has a good reputation in the caching community here (and so do his friends that he went with) and I don't think that he would do anything uncouth or untoward. I'm sure there was a good reason why they felt okay to log them. I still feel congratulatory Edited April 21, 2010 by nymphnsatyr Quote
+Sol seaker Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Congratulations! Why did the trail of the Gods get archived? Quote
+roziecakes Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 This is the archival log from NGA: April 13 by NGA (2 found) Regretfully, we had to agree to archive these caches due to the "increased traffic and undue attention to the area". Quote
AZcachemeister Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Your accomplishment (and 1$) will get you an egg McRubber at McDonald's. Congratulations! I hope you are suitably impressed with yourself. Quote
AZcachemeister Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Congrats guys on beating the world record. Personally I don't understand how that many caches can be found. Lets take that 51 in one hour for example. That's almost one per minute. Considering that a cache can't be closer than 200m apart, how do you drive that distance, get out, find the cache, etc etc etc, in less than a minute???? How many people were there? How many vehicles? I wonder if the new record holders could give us some tips to us? Not trying to rain on their parade, I'm really happy for them, but how does one do this??? We had three people and one vehicle. Planning was key. Talking with others who had made the run gave us many tips. We used aerial views on my Garmin Colorado GPS which helped keep us on the right roads. Once the cache was in hand it only took a few seconds for one guy to pull the log and the other guy there to put the sticker on. Fast driving was also a big key. We rallied pretty fast out on those desert roads. Sticker? So you didn't actually SIGN the log? Record cancelled. Quote
+roziecakes Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 I've seen a lot of people sign logs with stickers... what is wrong with that? I'm truly not trying to be snarky, I'm actually curious. Is there something in the guidelines against it? I thought it was a kind of clever thing to do, and I always thought it was equivalent to signing a log. Quote
+humboldt flier Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 I've seen a lot of people sign logs with stickers... what is wrong with that? I'm truly not trying to be snarky, I'm actually curious. Is there something in the guidelines against it? I thought it was a kind of clever thing to do, and I always thought it was equivalent to signing a log. Hey Junction City, Ore. Congrats and don't sweat the detractors ... a fellow TOTG Warrior ( and pot stirrer ) Quote
+roziecakes Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Hey Humboldt! That's my alma mater. Class of 2001. I actually lived in Arcata for 8 years, and the company I work for is based out of there still (HostGIS.com) Yay! Quote
knowschad Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 I've seen a lot of people sign logs with stickers... what is wrong with that? I'm truly not trying to be snarky, I'm actually curious. Is there something in the guidelines against it? I thought it was a kind of clever thing to do, and I always thought it was equivalent to signing a log. Mostly, I think that its just a matter of time. Obviously it takes less time to attach a sticker than it does to sign several names. But take it to its logical conclusion: would you like it if everybody logged every cache with a sticker? How long would a log last? How many of those stickers would come unpeeled and blow off into the woods? Do the guidelines say that you should sign the log, or do they say that you should attach your sticker? Sorry, T.A.R., but its much like signing the container in order to set a "record". That said, I have some friends that have "power-cached" using stickers, and I will never chastise them for doing it. That was their business. Quote
+roziecakes Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 You're right, I really wouldn't like it if folks signed only using stickers. I probably find it clever because it's one of those things that most people don't do... and it's true what you say about actually signing it. I'm not sure I would cancel someone's record, unofficial as it may be, for using a sticker instead of signing though. Thank you for answering, I appreciate what you said. Quote
+dfx Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 i suspect the NGA will just leave all those cache containers where they are. that way, even in 10 years time people can still go and log all those archived caches Quote
+humboldt flier Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Hey Humboldt! That's my alma mater. Class of 2001. I actually lived in Arcata for 8 years, and the company I work for is based out of there still (HostGIS.com) Yay! Hey J.C. Ore. Thanks for the shout back. It is indeed a small world. I was made an Honorary Oregonian a few years back but I won't bore you with the details. Anyway back to the thread. Psychopedics, out of Redding, Cal. and I went old school and signed each log, however, we were not there trying to set a record. I did have a word or two to say while on the trail about stickers, typically centered about not all adhesives being created equally ( sometimes the comment was not as pleasantly stated as what I have just typed ). Can't begin to tell you how many I had to remove from my hands and re-apply to the log sheets. Quote
+humboldt flier Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 i suspect the NGA will just leave all those cache containers where they are. that way, even in 10 years time people can still go and log all those archived caches Nope, Scheduled to be picked up 04/23/10. Given the high profile of this and associated trail system, leaving any Geo-litter behind would lead to one huge black eye to the activity and the NGA Quote
+roziecakes Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 I was wondering if they were going to go out and remove the containers. Quote
+Jumpin' Jack Cache Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Since someone is bound to say it, I will, even though it doesn't necessarily reflect my own opinion. Given the high profile of this and associated trail system, leaving any Geo-litter behind would lead to one huge black eye to the activity and the NGA Like it hasn't already? Quote
+humboldt flier Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Since someone is bound to say it, I will, even though it doesn't necessarily reflect my own opinion. Given the high profile of this and associated trail system, leaving any Geo-litter behind would lead to one huge black eye to the activity and the NGA Like it hasn't already? Hmmmmmmm, Perhaps, however, it may depend upon whether one is on the inside looking out or on the outside looking in. I do appreciate your comment, as there may be some validity to your statement. Just my twisted, warped perspective. Have a great evening and Geo Hugggzzzzzzzz to all Quote
+Jumpin' Jack Cache Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Since someone is bound to say it, I will, even though it doesn't necessarily reflect my own opinion. Given the high profile of this and associated trail system, leaving any Geo-litter behind would lead to one huge black eye to the activity and the NGA Like it hasn't already? Hmmmmmmm, Perhaps, however, it may depend upon whether one is on the inside looking out or on the outside looking in. I do appreciate your comment, as there may be some validity to your statement. Just my twisted, warped perspective. Have a great evening and Geo Hugggzzzzzzzz to all An appropriately ambiguous reply. Remove the "necessarily" from my previous post. If I lived close enough I'd have been seeing how many I could get in my Toyota Echo and going for time But All of us here are inside looking out. Even though you obviously consider your position as more inside, having done part of the trail, the activity ain't so big that all of us won't be seen in the same light, generally speaking. Overall, for the activity and NGA, probably a shiner. I will admit to having a black eye or two in my time that I was pretty proud of Quote
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