+addisonbr Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 A SoCal cacher pointed me to a new power trail that was just published, looks like ~500 caches every .1 of a mile along a stretch of road north of I-15. (Ironically enough at least part of that stretch is called Powerline Road). I've attached a partial image; I couldn't get the whole trail in the frame without exceeding the 500 cache limit. I don't know the whys or wherefores, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a new announcement of 500+ caches found in 24 hours to come along any day now. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 A SoCal cacher pointed me to a new power trail that was just published, looks like ~500 caches every .1 of a mile along a stretch of road north of I-15. (Ironically enough at least part of that stretch is called Powerline Road). I've attached a partial image; I couldn't get the whole trail in the frame without exceeding the 500 cache limit. I don't know the whys or wherefores, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a new announcement of 500+ caches found in 24 hours to come along any day now. Holy COW!!! Can you provide the GC# of one of the caches in the chain? Quote Link to comment
+addisonbr Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 Holy COW!!! Can you provide the GC# of one of the caches in the chain? GC24KMR looks to be one of the two caches at the beginning (or end?) of the trail, right up against the border. Quote Link to comment
+9Key Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 (edited) I hope they're maintained. Edit - looks like they're placed by a sock puppet account. Yikes! Edited March 8, 2010 by 9Key Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 (edited) I hope they're maintained. Edit - looks like they're placed by a sock puppet account. Yikes! MOOSE MOB!!! Edited March 8, 2010 by knowschad Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I don't think it will be my summer road trip target, but one of these days.... Quote Link to comment
+Moose Mob Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 (edited) I know what I am doing next weekend! edit to add: Based on the cache names, I will be referring to it as "Trail of the Gods" or something similar. Edited March 8, 2010 by Moose Mob Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Looks like he missed a spot Quote Link to comment
+baja_Traveler Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 One of these days I'm going to purge the Oregon. do a PQ on just this area, and make the 4 hour drive up and make a weekend of it. There is even a nice hotel in Primm, so camping isn't even required! I drive past here 2-3 times a year, and always wanted to hit this stockpile, but timing prevents it. Two weeks ago I was very tempted on my way home from skiing though... Quote Link to comment
+FancoverFive Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Based on the guy's hides, there's 535 hides there. But I don't see the point of them. Why would you want to spend an entire day finding a cache every 528 feet? It seems silly. Quote Link to comment
vagabond Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 HHHHmmmmm a couple of names come to mind Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Based on the guy's hides, there's 535 hides there. But I don't see the point of them. Why would you want to spend an entire day finding a cache every 528 feet? It seems silly. Some people like finding lots of caches in a day. Others prefer a 10 mile hike to that one special one. Many others prefer something in between those two extremes. Good thing we can all find what we like at the same website. 1 Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Based on the guy's hides, there's 535 hides there. But I don't see the point of them. Why would you want to spend an entire day finding a cache every 528 feet? It seems silly. Actually less than that - they seem spread in a triangle pattern about 260 foot from the road in either direction. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 HHHHmmmmm a couple of names come to mind Think Alamogul is there yet? Quote Link to comment
+t4e Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 holly cow!...i wonder what the reviewer thought of that does he/she get official recognition for the most published caches and a week paid vacation? Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Who called it a Sock Puppet account?? NGA is the Nevada Geocaching Association. They have co-hosted an Event in the past with Signal and Groundspeak. I guess this is an officially sanctioned power trail. Quote Link to comment
+Xaa Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Yeah, geocaching is really becoming more and more challenging. This will do so much for proving what a wonderful passtime geocaching is. Oh well, good thing it is still possible to find real caches in between this stuff,and I'm so happy I don't live in that area. Quote Link to comment
+Taoiseach Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Based on the guy's hides, there's 535 hides there. But I don't see the point of them. Why would you want to spend an entire day finding a cache every 528 feet? It seems silly. Some people like finding lots of caches in a day. Others prefer a 10 mile hike to that one special one. Many others prefer something in between those two extremes. Good thing we can all find what we like at the same website. Please don't hide a cache every 600 feet just because you can. The ultimate goals of the saturation guideline are to encourage you to seek out new places to hide caches rather than putting them in areas where caches already exist and to limit the number of caches hidden in a particular area, especially by the same hider. Groundspeak may further restrict cache listings in areas where cache saturation becomes a concern. Quote Link to comment
jholly Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 There certainly is a shortage of film cans some where. Of course the GPSr will be reading screwy under all those power lines. Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 HHHHmmmmm a couple of names come to mind Think Alamogul is there yet? Halfway done, before they went live. Haha, Just kidding. Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Yeah, geocaching is really becoming more and more challenging. This will do so much for proving what a wonderful passtime geocaching is. Oh well, good thing it is still possible to find real caches in between this stuff,and I'm so happy I don't live in that area. Well, at least this is way out there on a dirt road, and not on the streets, and at least they got creative with the names. Quote Link to comment
+9Key Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Who called it a Sock Puppet account?? NGA is the Nevada Geocaching Association. They have co-hosted an Event in the past with Signal and Groundspeak. I guess this is an officially sanctioned power trail. The account just said "NGA" with no write up, but I guess you know more about it than I do. Is the group going to maintain them as a community effort? I'm surprised they're mostly micros. Yo'd think ammo cans or lock-n-locks would be easy to hide in the desert. Talk about cut-n-paste logs! OMG! Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Anybody have the time to run a PQ and filter it by size? I'm curious if they're all micros, smalls, or what? Quote Link to comment
jholly Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Anybody have the time to run a PQ and filter it by size? I'm curious if they're all micros, smalls, or what? I would expect that they are all film cans. Anything more would be quite an expense to set up. Ammo cans or small lock'n'locks are only a dream. Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I know what I am doing next weekend! edit to add: Based on the cache names, I will be referring to it as "Trail of the Gods" or something similar. Maybe you should wait a week, for the other half to be published? I heard that the Reviewers autopublish tool has a weekly limit of 500, so they will have to either wait a week, or publish the other half manually. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Who called it a Sock Puppet account?? NGA is the Nevada Geocaching Association. They have co-hosted an Event in the past with Signal and Groundspeak. I guess this is an officially sanctioned power trail. The account just said "NGA" with no write up, but I guess you know more about it than I do. Is the group going to maintain them as a community effort? I'm surprised they're mostly micros. Yo'd think ammo cans or lock-n-locks would be easy to hide in the desert. Talk about cut-n-paste logs! OMG! The cache linked to has two notes logged, by PhantomWSO and Mohave Rattler, both stating that they were the placement team (or at least part of it). Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 (edited) Who called it a Sock Puppet account?? NGA is the Nevada Geocaching Association. They have co-hosted an Event in the past with Signal and Groundspeak. I guess this is an officially sanctioned power trail. The account just said "NGA" with no write up, but I guess you know more about it than I do. Is the group going to maintain them as a community effort? I'm surprised they're mostly micros. Yo'd think ammo cans or lock-n-locks would be easy to hide in the desert. Talk about cut-n-paste logs! OMG! If you look at tha Cache pages, they all have the NGA Logo...when you look at the owned Caches by the account, they have a Garmin/Groundspeak/Signal/NGA Event listed as hosted by them. I can see making a few of them regular, but most players who are interested in these power trails won't be taking the time to look through/trade for things anyway, so why bother. Also, even though this is off the paved path, there is plenty of activity in the area by off roaders, so they will stay hidden better as micro's. Edited March 8, 2010 by WRITE SHOP ROBERT Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 A SoCal cacher pointed me to a new power trail that was just published, looks like ~500 caches every .1 of a mile along a stretch of road north of I-15. (Ironically enough at least part of that stretch is called Powerline Road). I've attached a partial image; I couldn't get the whole trail in the frame without exceeding the 500 cache limit. I don't know the whys or wherefores, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a new announcement of 500+ caches found in 24 hours to come along any day now. Almost all of those in the shorter trail along US 15 to the south of there were also placed by NGA on 3/6/2010. I wonder if they plan to continue it. Quote Link to comment
+t4e Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Anybody have the time to run a PQ and filter it by size? I'm curious if they're all micros, smalls, or what? just flicking through the pages i see 7 large, 1 regular, 7 small and the rest micros Quote Link to comment
+Touchstone Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Big Yawn.... Kind of reminds me of the guy up in Northern CA that wanted to make a Wheelchair Accessible version of the N. CA Delorme. Lots of drama was the fallout of that ambitious effort. I can't wait to see the thread start up about how powertrails of this nature dilute the efforts of the "Purists" that do it the old fashioned way Quote Link to comment
+atmospherium Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 All published March 7? I reckon any one of these could be called the "millionth" cache. Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 This trail could be interesting if you spend the night in Primm, and then try hiking the whole trail. I wonder if you could do it in two days? Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I feel bad for the local cachers who prefer long hikes in the woods. Now their local PQ's will be all filled up with these cache. As if there are Aa) many local cachers out in the middle of the desert, and Bb) anyone there who chooses to live there for the easily accessible trails in the woods. Quote Link to comment
jholly Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I feel bad for the local cachers who prefer long hikes in the woods. Now their local PQ's will be all filled up with these cache. That is what ignore lists are for. Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 (edited) I wonder if there is an upper limit to the ignore list feature? I only use mine for caches that I helped hide but are owned by someone else. And those 2-3 special caches placed by someone who has now dropped out of caching. Edited to add that I agree with the chadbudhound-these will likely be quite popular and make this area into a destination for many cachers. Geotourism dollars to the desert. The Prim Filling Station will be quite happy with the traffic. Edited March 8, 2010 by wimseyguy Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I feel bad for the local cachers who prefer long hikes in the woods. Now their local PQ's will be all filled up with these cache. That is what ignore lists are for. And GSAK filters. Just filter out where owner= "NGA". But I suspect that a larger number will be doing the reverse filter. Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I feel bad for the local cachers who prefer long hikes in the woods. Now their local PQ's will be all filled up with these cache. That is what ignore lists are for. Can you imagine what a colossal pain in the neck it would be to ignore 500+ caches? Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I feel bad for the local cachers who prefer long hikes in the woods. Now their local PQ's will be all filled up with these cache. That is what ignore lists are for. Can you imagine what a colossal pain in the neck it would be to ignore 500+ caches? a lot less of a pain in the neck than it must have been to hide them and work up the cache pages for them! Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Oh man, too bad I live so far away... I would love to do this trail. Get a group of friends together and have a blast! Alone? Not so much. Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Agreed, it seems like much more fun to just find them instead. Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Agreed, it seems like much more fun to just find them instead. Not really my cup of tea. I don't think I'd have the stamina or the attention span to log them on the website. Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I feel bad for the local cachers who prefer long hikes in the woods. Now their local PQ's will be all filled up with these cache. As if there are Aa) many local cachers out in the middle of the desert, and Bb) anyone there who chooses to live there for the easily accessible trails in the woods. Except that there are no woods within 50 miles of there. Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I wonder if there is an upper limit to the ignore list feature? I only use mine for caches that I helped hide but are owned by someone else. And those 2-3 special caches placed by someone who has now dropped out of caching. Edited to add that I agree with the chadbudhound-these will likely be quite popular and make this area into a destination for many cachers. Geotourism dollars to the desert. The Prim Filling Station will be quite happy with the traffic. Primm is actually much more than a filling station. There are three major casino/hotels, an Outlet shopping center, and an amusement park. They even have a Starbucks. One of my favorite Caches was there, inside the welcome center that's now closed. Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Oh man, too bad I live so far away... I would love to do this trail. Get a group of friends together and have a blast! Alone? Not so much. I think it would make an Epic Hike, with one or two campouts along the way, or another really fun way would be on ATVs. To keep from the 500 ft stop/go, maybe to the north side on the way out, then the south side on the way back. It seems kind of arbitrary that they stopped in the middle of nowhere, maybe finishing the loop back to I-15 is in the works? Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Yeah, geocaching is really becoming more and more challenging. This will do so much for proving what a wonderful passtime geocaching is. Oh well, good thing it is still possible to find real caches in between this stuff,and I'm so happy I don't live in that area. Well, at least this is way out there on a dirt road, and not on the streets, and at least they got creative with the names. I'm surprised that nobody else has mentioned this. I looked a few of the cache page listings and every one of them had "High clearance vehicle and 4WD highly recommended." I doubt the daily record would be in jeopardy from this trail. Even though there may be more caches then the trail near Denver airport I can't imagine that the terrain would allow for cache-to-cache speeds possible on paved roads. Zooming in along the path shows two parallel dirt tracks with not much else along the road. I have to wonder what kind of hides these are. If they're all film cans, if the area gets a big rain you'll probably be able to smell the mold on all the logs in Las Vegas. What I don't understand is how power trails like this are allowed to be published. The guideline, as someone else posted clearly states: "Please don't hide a cache every 600 feet just because you can. The ultimate goals of the saturation guideline are to encourage you to seek out new places to hide caches rather than putting them in areas where caches already exist and to limit the number of caches hidden in a particular area, especially by the same hider. Groundspeak may further restrict cache listings in areas where cache saturation becomes a concern." How is this, and other power trails that have been discussed here , not a clear violation of the guideline? Quote Link to comment
+Moose Mob Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Looks like the NGA account is sharing route info. Trail of the Gods - Baker Trail of the Gods -Primm Quote Link to comment
+bittsen Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I see a bicycling cache trip as the best way to go on this trail. A motor vehicle (aside from a golf cart) would be a pain in the neck. Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Agreed, it seems like much more fun to just find them instead. Not really my cup of tea. I don't think I'd have the stamina or the attention span to log them on the website. So don't! I don't. It's not a requirement, and stats are meaningless, so just go cache and have fun! I find them, sign them and I'm done, no record keeping, no hours spent trying to remember and log the caches. And before anyone jumps in with it, no, I don't 'owe' the CO a log or anything else except my appreciation and proper treatment of his cache. Quote Link to comment
+ventura_kids Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I'd love to pick a spot in the middle, and add a couple more caches. We used to do that to each other in our town. You'd no sooner find them all, when you'd have to hike back out there to find that 'just one more'. Quote Link to comment
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