+transamforever Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 i am a little confused on the muggles situation. so first i didn't know what a muggle was, i think i got that figured out. (its other people that are not involved in geocaching. right?) but i see people writing too many muggles. so are we not supposed to let people know what we are doing? is the goal to find it without being seen? or are we just trying to protect the cache? thanks transamforever Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Caches in high traffic areas tend to go missing if their locations are known to non geocachers, so many geocachers play cloak and dagger when looking for these. Other geocachers simply avoid these kinds of caches. Quote Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 is the goal to find it without being seen? or are we just trying to protect the cache? Both. We're protecting the cache by not letting others see us retrieve or replace it. Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Your goal is protect the cache. But if approached or "caught in the act" - it is always best to just tell the truth. Quote Link to comment
+godavid Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 i had gotten a cach's a few days ag0 and someone park across the street from where i was @ i simlpe took the cach with me i didnt try to hind it back --i drove around the block a few times and than they left and then i repace the cach;s sometimes i guess you have to do that?? Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 i am a little confused on the muggles situation. so first i didn't know what a muggle was, i think i got that figured out. (its other people that are not involved in geocaching. right?) but i see people writing too many muggles. so are we not supposed to let people know what we are doing? is the goal to find it without being seen? or are we just trying to protect the cache? thanks transamforever We are just trying to protect the Cache from theft and other demise. Quote Link to comment
DannyCaffeine Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 People who don't geocache are all muggles. I think that mabey kids upset caches or take the toys? I'm not sure but people can be distructive. Quote Link to comment
+geodarts Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 (edited) Its good to try to protect the cache, but sometimes there is only so much that can be done. A cache placed in a lamp post in the middle of a garden surrounded by benches where people sit from morning to night is going to have only so many options. People have different theories as to how to go about such searches. Generally, I believe that if you act too stealthy, you may only end up attracting attention to yourself. I go with the assumption that the cache placer had "adequate permission" to leave the cache in that particular spot; if people want to know what I am doing I will explain the game to them; I will not try to draw attention to myself but I will act like I belong there. If the area is busy, I read the description and the hints very carefully and try to narrow the search area as best I can. But its situational. There have been times when we have had eight people all over a bus stop in a busy urban area. And other times when I am in a neighborhood, on a median strip surrounded by houses, and my daughter starts to cringe with embarrassment when someone stops to look at us - it may be better to try for the cache at a later time. It is sometimes surprising to me how little people pay attention to what I am doing. But I always recall what one person said to me after I pulled the cache from lamp post described above, "People look strange when you don't know what they are doing." Edited March 3, 2010 by Erickson Quote Link to comment
+ras_oscar Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 If youn stick your GPS to your ear and start talking about something you can get away with practically any random behavior. Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 is the goal to find it without being seen? or are we just trying to protect the cache? Both. We're protecting the cache by not letting others see us retrieve or replace it. That's one way to protect the cache. Another way might be to walk right up to someone near the cache and tell them exactly what you're doing. Sometimes the best way to protect the cache may be to walk away and come back to search for it on another day. Each situation may be different so you have to judge what approach makes the most sense. Quote Link to comment
ad5smith Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 If youn stick your GPS to your ear and start talking about something you can get away with practically any random behavior. i've done this, and lol the other day i was at cache the other day and it was next to a electric meter. i had several muggles pull up at once to do business at the ajoining building. so i started just pressing buttons on the ol' GPSr like i was reading the meter, it seemed to work. Quote Link to comment
ad5smith Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 If youn stick your GPS to your ear and start talking about something you can get away with practically any random behavior. i've done this, and lol the other day i was at cache the other day and it was next to a electric meter. i had several muggles pull up at once to do business at the ajoining building. so i started just pressing buttons on the ol' GPSr like i was reading the meter, it seemed to work. Quote Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Its good to try to protect the cache, but sometimes there is only so much that can be done. A cache placed in a lamp post in the middle of a garden surrounded by benches where people sit from morning to night is going to have only so many options. People have different theories as to how to go about such searches. Generally, I believe that if you act too stealthy, you may only end up attracting attention to yourself. I go with the assumption that the cache placer had "adequate permission" to leave the cache in that particular spot; if people want to know what I am doing I will explain the game to them; I will not try to draw attention to myself but I will act like I belong there. You can get away with almost anything, if you carry a clipboard with you. A hardhat or reflective vest can help, too. Just walk right up to the LP, act like you're looking up something on the clipboard, maybe flip through a few pages. Grab the cache as you appear to be looking for a serial number under the skirt, and scribble down something on the clipboard (at this point, no one is paying any attention to you). Sign cache, replace an leave. If you drive a truck or SUV, you can totally sell it by illegally parking, putting your flashers on, and setting out a traffic cone or two. Quote Link to comment
mddbkzr Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Sometimes if the person seems cool, you can tell them exactly what you are doing and maybe turn them into a geocacher as well, that's how I caught wind of it. Quote Link to comment
+ConkDonk Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I once had to explain in detail to two police officers after we saw them remove the cache at a nearby railroad station (not a dangerous cache or potentially viewed as dangerous). One of them seemed kind of intrigued and asked a lot of questions about the web site! Quote Link to comment
+HedgeMage Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I don't worry about muggles unless I get a particularly bad vibe from someone. I rarely get approached by them while looking for a hide; I think caching with a child helps -- people are used to little ones being curious about *everything* for no apparent reason. When I am approached, I have a few geocaching mini-brochures on hand to give out as I talk about the game. Quote Link to comment
ad5smith Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Its good to try to protect the cache, but sometimes there is only so much that can be done. A cache placed in a lamp post in the middle of a garden surrounded by benches where people sit from morning to night is going to have only so many options. People have different theories as to how to go about such searches. Generally, I believe that if you act too stealthy, you may only end up attracting attention to yourself. I go with the assumption that the cache placer had "adequate permission" to leave the cache in that particular spot; if people want to know what I am doing I will explain the game to them; I will not try to draw attention to myself but I will act like I belong there. You can get away with almost anything, if you carry a clipboard with you. A hardhat or reflective vest can help, too. Just walk right up to the LP, act like you're looking up something on the clipboard, maybe flip through a few pages. Grab the cache as you appear to be looking for a serial number under the skirt, and scribble down something on the clipboard (at this point, no one is paying any attention to you). Sign cache, replace an leave. If you drive a truck or SUV, you can totally sell it by illegally parking, putting your flashers on, and setting out a traffic cone or two. great idea! Quote Link to comment
+ChaceGuild Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Have just tried out the Hi-vis vest and clipboard "camouflage" today, and it worked fantastically Although I like to approach staff if there are any onsite, and explain what I'm doing, it's not always that easy (especially when out in the countryside). So having a few "props" does make you look a little less suspicious, and as people say, it's always a good idea to have a few "Geocache Brochures" with you in case anyone does ask what you're doing Quote Link to comment
+alldatndensum Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 I bought a reflective vest and clipboard for some urban caches. I found one on a series of electrical panels with meters from the local power company. I had a city cop roll up and wave at me as he continued on his way. Just a moment later, a rep from the local power company in one of the company trucks drove by and waved at me, too. My truck parked right there is not even the same color as what their meter readers use. I now call the orange vest and clipboard my "cloak of invisibility". Quote Link to comment
+transamforever Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 If youn stick your GPS to your ear and start talking about something you can get away with practically any random behavior. love this i'm going to try it some time. sooo true, i'm sure it will work Quote Link to comment
+ChaceGuild Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Have just come up with a nickname for the hi-vis vest & clipboard look - *Cacherflage* Quote Link to comment
kinnoull krew Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Have just come up with a nickname for the hi-vis vest & clipboard look - *Cacherflage* Thats a great name, Cacherflage. Quote Link to comment
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