+mvb0002 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I have found one or two caches hidden on the inside of a steel fence post cap. I have created my own but do not know how to remove the original cap once I find an appropriate location or similar size cap. Does anyone have any advice or experience? Would appreciate it. Quote Link to comment
+Jumpin' Jack Cache Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Find a post without a cap. Alternatively, sometimes there is a loose cap. Fences tend to belong to people, though. And a shiny new cap does stick out visually. Quote Link to comment
+t4e Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 i would not remove the original cap if its not meant come off without tools, if you still wish to place such a cache you should use a post that has no cap or one that comes off without force of course, make sure is not on someone's property and get yourself in trouble for destroying it Quote Link to comment
+bittsen Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I have found one or two caches hidden on the inside of a steel fence post cap. I have created my own but do not know how to remove the original cap once I find an appropriate location or similar size cap. Does anyone have any advice or experience? Would appreciate it. First, ask the post owner if it's OK to remove their fence post cap. After that, determine if it's welded, glued, or just pressure fit. If it's welded or glued, get a hacksaw and start cutting (IF THE OWNER OF THE FENCE POST GIVES PERMISSION). If it's press fit, get a screwdriver and a hammer and slowly work it off (IF THE OWNER OF THE FENCE POST GIVES PERMISSION). Without permission, look for a fence post that has no cap and you are less apt to get in trouble. Quote Link to comment
+moparots Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I just hid a fence post cap last week. The reason I hid it was because it came of in my hand as I rounded the corner of the fence, as I was heading for a cache up the hill a ways. The cap should be loose, and I just learned, you should stuff a baggie of leaves or grass (balled up paper) into the post in case your adhesive fails (like mine did) so the cache wont fall to the bottom. A fellow cacher did this for me because of several notes about my adhesive failing to hold the cache. I think its a good fail safe to protect the cache in case the cache falls. Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Ask the owner of the fence what they would perfer. Quote Link to comment
+bittsen Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I just learned, you should stuff a baggie of leaves or grass (balled up paper) into the post in case your adhesive fails (like mine did) so the cache wont fall to the bottom. A fellow cacher did this for me because of several notes about my adhesive failing to hold the cache. I think its a good fail safe to protect the cache in case the cache falls. If the cache does fall into the post, just add water. The cache will miraculously reappear. Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I just learned, you should stuff a baggie of leaves or grass (balled up paper) into the post in case your adhesive fails (like mine did) so the cache wont fall to the bottom. A fellow cacher did this for me because of several notes about my adhesive failing to hold the cache. I think its a good fail safe to protect the cache in case the cache falls. If the cache does fall into the post, just add water. The cache will miraculously reappear. Perhaps. I've seen some of those bison tubes that didn't have much air space left in 'em. I doubt they would be positively buoyant. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I have found one or two caches hidden on the inside of a steel fence post cap. I have created my own but do not know how to remove the original cap once I find an appropriate location or similar size cap. Does anyone have any advice or experience? Would appreciate it. I hope you realize (and you probably do by now) that most experienced cachers see a chain link fence anywhere near GZ and immediately head straight for the nearest post. They are very "old-school" by now. Perhaps that's what you want, and that's OK, but if you're looking to surprise people, that will probably not do it for very many. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I just learned, you should stuff a baggie of leaves or grass (balled up paper) into the post in case your adhesive fails (like mine did) so the cache wont fall to the bottom. A fellow cacher did this for me because of several notes about my adhesive failing to hold the cache. I think its a good fail safe to protect the cache in case the cache falls. If the cache does fall into the post, just add water. The cache will miraculously reappear. Perhaps. I've seen some of those bison tubes that didn't have much air space left in 'em. I doubt they would be positively buoyant. I just tested two empty bison tubes of different styles. They both sunk like rocks. Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I just learned, you should stuff a baggie of leaves or grass (balled up paper) into the post in case your adhesive fails (like mine did) so the cache wont fall to the bottom. A fellow cacher did this for me because of several notes about my adhesive failing to hold the cache. I think its a good fail safe to protect the cache in case the cache falls. If the cache does fall into the post, just add water. The cache will miraculously reappear. Perhaps. I've seen some of those bison tubes that didn't have much air space left in 'em. I doubt they would be positively buoyant. I just tested two empty bison tubes of different styles. They both sunk like rocks. HMMN? Try it with heavily salted water. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I just learned, you should stuff a baggie of leaves or grass (balled up paper) into the post in case your adhesive fails (like mine did) so the cache wont fall to the bottom. A fellow cacher did this for me because of several notes about my adhesive failing to hold the cache. I think its a good fail safe to protect the cache in case the cache falls. If the cache does fall into the post, just add water. The cache will miraculously reappear. Perhaps. I've seen some of those bison tubes that didn't have much air space left in 'em. I doubt they would be positively buoyant. I just tested two empty bison tubes of different styles. They both sunk like rocks. HMMN? Try it with heavily salted water. After a couple more beers. Quote Link to comment
+bittsen Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I have yet to see a bison tube used in conjunction with a fence post cap hide. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I have yet to see a bison tube used in conjunction with a fence post cap hide. Well, that does it, then. Quote Link to comment
+frinklabs Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Not all fenceposts are part of a fence. The City of Toronto uses them to delineate public parkland from private property. Here's one in streetview They have plastic caps so you can put a bolt through them, negating the adhesive issue - my friend tells me. I saw a lot of these in level three terrain locations when I did Orienteering in various city parks. Quote Link to comment
+bittsen Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Not all fenceposts are part of a fence. The City of Toronto uses them to delineate public parkland from private property. Here's one in streetview They have plastic caps so you can put a bolt through them, negating the adhesive issue - my friend tells me. I saw a lot of these in level three terrain locations when I did Orienteering in various city parks. We have something like that here. They mark natural gas lines. You don't want to mess with them. Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 most experienced cachers see a chain link fence anywhere near GZ and immediately head straight for the nearest post I did a cache in a park, and while discussing placement with the park manager, he offered that he’d been thinking of doing the fence-cap kind. So now the cap is part of the cache. As a decoy. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Not all fenceposts are part of a fence. The City of Toronto uses them to delineate public parkland from private property. Here's one in streetview They have plastic caps so you can put a bolt through them, negating the adhesive issue - my friend tells me. I saw a lot of these in level three terrain locations when I did Orienteering in various city parks. Putting a bolt through a fence post that you don't own would be a serious guideline violation. Quote Link to comment
+Wooden Cyclist Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I have yet to see a bison tube used in conjunction with a fence post cap hide. I have seen several. The most recent was wrapped in the fuzzy part of velcro. A large patch of the hook part was adhered to the inside of the post. Quote Link to comment
+FunnyNose Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 The couple fencepost caches that I have were for fence posts that the cap was missing. Just went down to my local big box store bought the appropriate color. Grind down the nubs on inside of the cap (those are supposed to cinch on the cap so it cannot be easily removed) Epoxy in a cache container and I'm set. Plus I'm doing a public service of replacing missing fence post caps. Quote Link to comment
+power69 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 The cap should be loose, and I just learned, you should stuff a baggie of leaves or grass (balled up paper) into the post in case your adhesive fails (like mine did) so the cache wont fall to the bottom. A fellow cacher did this for me because of several notes about my adhesive failing to hold the cache. I think its a good fail safe to protect the cache in case the cache falls. I have two of these and put a balled up plastic bag in the pipe and set the cache on top of it[they're micros so the bag holds em fine. that way after the cache is gone, theres no trace of it being there. Quote Link to comment
+power69 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I just learned, you should stuff a baggie of leaves or grass (balled up paper) into the post in case your adhesive fails (like mine did) so the cache wont fall to the bottom. A fellow cacher did this for me because of several notes about my adhesive failing to hold the cache. I think its a good fail safe to protect the cache in case the cache falls. If the cache does fall into the post, just add water. The cache will miraculously reappear. Not if it doesn't float Quote Link to comment
+power69 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I just learned, you should stuff a baggie of leaves or grass (balled up paper) into the post in case your adhesive fails (like mine did) so the cache wont fall to the bottom. A fellow cacher did this for me because of several notes about my adhesive failing to hold the cache. I think its a good fail safe to protect the cache in case the cache falls. If the cache does fall into the post, just add water. The cache will miraculously reappear. Perhaps. I've seen some of those bison tubes that didn't have much air space left in 'em. I doubt they would be positively buoyant. I have one like that, you have to pop the cap and either fill pipe with water and float it or use a spider claw grabber. cache is a bison with cork attached to it. Quote Link to comment
+Mini-Geek Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I just learned, you should stuff a baggie of leaves or grass (balled up paper) into the post in case your adhesive fails (like mine did) so the cache wont fall to the bottom. A fellow cacher did this for me because of several notes about my adhesive failing to hold the cache. I think its a good fail safe to protect the cache in case the cache falls. If the cache does fall into the post, just add water. The cache will miraculously reappear. Perhaps. I've seen some of those bison tubes that didn't have much air space left in 'em. I doubt they would be positively buoyant. I just tested two empty bison tubes of different styles. They both sunk like rocks. I just tested one I bought off eBay, it slowly sunk to the bottom, I suspect with a cork, or a bit of foam, attatched it would float. Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I have yet to see a bison tube used in conjunction with a fence post cap hide. Me neither. I'm actually far more likely to find an active wasp next using a fence cap, or the fence pole. However I've found exactly enough of these caches to where it's an obvious thing to check, and jump back in the even of wasps. Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I have yet to see a bison tube used in conjunction with a fence post cap hide. Well, that does it, then. I'm pretty sure I have. But they were those larger scuba tank shaped tubes, not the original shape. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I just tested two empty bison tubes of different styles. They both sunk like rocks. I just tested one I bought off eBay, it slowly sunk to the bottom, I suspect with a cork, or a bit of foam, attatched it would float. I'd think a nice red & white fishing bobber would be a fun float! Quote Link to comment
+Mini-Geek Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 (edited) I'd think a nice red & white fishing bobber would be a fun float! Yeah. that would work well, also It would attatch better/easyier to the bison tube. Edited February 22, 2010 by Mini-Geek Quote Link to comment
+The VanDucks Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 We've found a few hidden in fence post caps. The fences were old, and maybe that's why the tops were so loose. In each case, the cache was attached by a thin wire, so you just had to pull up the wire to get the cache out of the post. If you place this type of cache, be kind to your fellow cachers and choose a location along the fence that's not too visible to muggles driving by, just in case a policeman notices someone taking the fence apart! Quote Link to comment
+Taoiseach Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Not all fenceposts are part of a fence. The City of Toronto uses them to delineate public parkland from private property. Here's one in streetview They have plastic caps so you can put a bolt through them, negating the adhesive issue - my friend tells me. I saw a lot of these in level three terrain locations when I did Orienteering in various city parks. Putting a bolt through a fence post that you don't own would be a serious guideline violation. I think that that's the way the cap is actually attached to the post... Quote Link to comment
+frinklabs Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I think that that's the way the cap is actually attached to the post... The cap is held in place by friction. That is why almost all of them are missing (including the streetview example). My friend obtains their own fence post cap, bolts on the cache container then places it on a post where the cap was missing. Quote Link to comment
vagabond Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I've done a few I went down and bought the caps then swapped them out for caps that have been on a fence then place the old caps on a differnt fence, that way they don't have a shiny beacon shouting here I am Quote Link to comment
+bramasoleiowa Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 (edited) I did a cache in a park, and while discussing placement with the park manager, he offered that he’d been thinking of doing the fence-cap kind. So now the cap is part of the cache. As a decoy. Gotta love the geocaching friendly park rangers. I'd think a nice red & white fishing bobber would be a fun float! I'm going to have to work on this idea this summer. After a couple more beers. I approve of this. And because I'm immature and miss walking past Portland State University housing and smelling the students getting high: a baggie of ... grass Edited February 23, 2010 by bramasoleiowa Quote Link to comment
+mvb0002 Posted February 23, 2010 Author Share Posted February 23, 2010 I appreciate all the replies posted here and they have given me some good insight regarding the placement and construction of the cap. thanks for all your input. Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 My fence post cap is a replacement for a missing one. I would never consider removing and replacing an existing one. Quote Link to comment
+catsnfish Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 In my neighborhood, the mice bungie with bisons inside the fenceposts. Quote Link to comment
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