Are Cadastral Marks able to be logged.?

[+weberslv]

Hi, I found a survey marker next to a cache. Do these count? and how do you log them if they can be logged.

 

Lisa

 

 

 

weberslv@cox.net

Edited February 22, 2010 by weberslv

[+jwahl]

They aren't classified as bench marks and only very rarily will one be in the NGS database which is the basis for this site.

 

There is a "Public Land Survey" section on the Waymarking site that is your best bet.

 

- jlw

 

Hi, I found a survey marker next to a cache. Do these count? and how do you log them if they can be logged.

 

Lisa

 

weberslv@cox.net

Edited February 22, 2010 by jwahl

[+weberslv]

Ok thanks for the info. So basicly, don't bother with these ones..

 

Lisa

[+DragonsWest]

 

Found one of these today while looking for another disk. This is evidently a Reference Mark, though I couldn't find what it was pointing to. If the distance was 10.4 ft then it's destroyed, if it's 104 ft then it might be there, just under a little sand. Interesting what BLM has to say about these.

 

Cadastral surveys deal with one of the oldest and most fundamental facets of human society-ownership of land.

 

They are the surveys that create, mark, define, retrace, or reestablish the boundaries and subdivisions of the public lands of the United States.

 

They are not like scientific surveys of an informative character, which may be amended due to the availability of additional information or because of changes in conditions or standards of accuracy. Although cadastral surveys employ scientific methods and precise measurements, they are based upon law and not upon science.

 

Cadastral surveys are the foundation upon which rest title to all land that is now, or was once, part of the Public Domain of the United States.

Edited July 8, 2011 by DragonsWest

[AZcachemeister]

Plenty of cadastral marks are in the database in Arizona, but most of them were placed in the early 1900s.

 

There is always Waymarking, where nearly anything is acceptable.

[southpawaz]

DragonsWest,

 

One of the differences between geodetic survey marks and cadastral marks is that geodetic marks are generally placed, and then their location (horizontal and/or vertical) is determined. With cadastral marks, the location is determined first, and the monument is set to mark that specific location. When the cadastral surveyor finds that it is not physically possible to place a monument at a surveyed location, they may set a reference monument such as the one you found to indicate that location. The exact bearing and distance to the surveyed location would be recorded in the field notes and/or on the survey plat. So, I would say that it is less likely that anything was destroyed, and more likely that there was never a monument at the indicated distance to begin with.