Not playing the game

February 10, 2010

I've got a cache on my watchlist because I can't find it. As the last dozen or so logs are all DNFs it's reasonable to assume the cache is no longer there.

A few days ago two cachers logged a joint find. I've been back since and the cache is not there (the hint is very specific, but I've looked over a much wider area to be sure).

I've looked at the recent activity of the two cachers and it looks like they're on a caching holiday logging 30-40 finds a day. Many of these logs are for disabled caches the owner has confirmed are missing. It appears that the cachers are logging finds simply by visiting GZ, regardless of whether the cache is there or not.

To be honest I don't really care how they play the game, but I always thought you had to actually find the cache to log it. These are not inexperienced cachers either, both have over 2500 logs over about 2 years.

I haven't decided what to do (if anything) but a quiet email to the cachers may follow...

38.2k · February 10, 2010

An example of why logging phony finds is not harmless fun. Because of their bogus logs you wasted your time and probably gas looking for what is likely missing a cache. It isn't right inconvenience others just to get your jollies.

February 10, 2010

my understanding of the game is sign the log claim yer smiley...Not claim g.z. and get a smiley.. Personally speaking its sad that some number hounds will claim a find with out a log signature... I say drop the cache owner a note, after all its up too the actual hider the fate of there find ..

If it was my hide I would delete the log and drop em a email reminding them of how the game works :tongue:

February 10, 2010

Wow! 2500 finds. I wonder how they got those high find numbers?? :tongue:

Hopefully some of the cache owners who know their caches were missing will adjust those finds a little bit.

Edit for typo

Edited February 10, 2010 by Stargazer22

20.7k · February 10, 2010

... haven't decided what to do (if anything) but a quiet email to the cachers may follow...

Unless you own one of these caches, I would not recommend sending an email to the cachers. Instead, feel free to send 'heads up' emails to the cache owners.

February 10, 2010

Not a lot you can do really other than notifying the CO - although it sounds as tho' the CO has given up if they haven't responded to all the DNFs.

They're not playing the game properly and they are causing other players inconvenience and unnecessary expense. But there's no law against it.

18.9k · February 10, 2010

... haven't decided what to do (if anything) but a quiet email to the cachers may follow...
Unless you own one of these caches, I would not recommend sending an email to the cachers. Instead, feel free to send 'heads up' emails to the cache owners.

I'm actually going to agree with sbell111 on this one.

February 10, 2010

Thanks for the advice. I'll drop an email to the CO as I know he was still active 2 weeks ago.

10.2k · February 10, 2010

... haven't decided what to do (if anything) but a quiet email to the cachers may follow...
Unless you own one of these caches, I would not recommend sending an email to the cachers. Instead, feel free to send 'heads up' emails to the cache owners.

I'm actually going to agree with sbell111 on this one.

Me too. It's not a first though; we've agreed about The Buffalo Bills for years. :tongue:

4.2k · February 10, 2010

... haven't decided what to do (if anything) but a quiet email to the cachers may follow...
Unless you own one of these caches, I would not recommend sending an email to the cachers. Instead, feel free to send 'heads up' emails to the cache owners.

I'm actually going to agree with sbell111 on this one.

Me too. It's not worth the drama to try and change the behavior of the other cachers.

February 10, 2010

I've now sent an email to the CO.

I'm still tempted to ask the cacher for advice on how to find the cache though...

Only joking - I'll see what the CO has to say.

February 10, 2010

It's much akin to using the foot or hand wedge for a better lie in golf or miscounting strokes for a better score. The only person typically impacted is the player, but I can see how you'd be affected. I have a couple DNFs that I'm obsessed with that others apparently have no problem finding. Now I'm wondering if it is a similar situation. In such an individual sport, integrity is important.

6k · February 10, 2010

I'm still tempted to ask the cacher for advice on how to find the cache though

Not that idea sounds good to me. Not accusutary just a plea for help.

February 10, 2010

I wish you the best of luck with this one!!! I beat that horse to death!!

My advice is... for your own sanity and peace of mind, YOU "play the game" the way YOU want to!!!!

At the end of the day when you rest your head on your pillow, the only actions you have to account for... are yours!!!

I stated in a previous thread, I think it says a lot about a persons character. And that is that persons own decision! It is somewhat discouraging when you have few finds (like I do) and you are out on the trail trying to increase that number, and some clown "smokes" you with numbers of bogus finds. The flip side of the coin is, regardless of anyone elses numbers (and I dont care who they are or how long they have been doing this or how many finds they have) I know my numbers are genuine!!

I personally dont want to play this game for the numbers!!! The competition I have is with the hider!!!! Or in a certain sense, the cache itself!! Cat and Mouse if you will. He/it is the "opposing team" to me.

Just this weekend I witnessed yet another drive-by logging of a cache I can see from my picture window!!! I just shook my head.

I am enjoying this game, and have resolved to play fairly. I have also adopted the habit of carrying a large trash bag every where I go. It makes a great "cover" for why you are wandering around in a public park looking in and under trees!!!

You are going to be amazed at the things you see others do. It is a given. You might give some thought to, as was stated in Cool Hand Luke... "getting your mind right"!!!!

For instance... in researching caches for my hunt yesterday, I noted on the log of one cache, many finders noted how "trashy" the area was around the cache. Yet no one seemed to do anything about it!!! The next log noted the same thing... and the next!!! I spent an hour in the sunshine of a beautiful day, picking trash up in the middle of nowhere. I came home in a great frame of mind!!!

While I consider myself a noobie, I will go out on a limb and offer this advice... this game is going to be what you make of it. I refuse to let the actions or inactions of others make me "jaded and cynical"

Best of luck to you and happy hunting!!!!

I would also note I took similar action when I first realized this was going on (emailing the bogus logger) and he responded with " I signed with a different name-- *******. :yikes: Which proved his IQ to me. The different name was not on the log either!! :tongue:

9.3k · February 10, 2010

I'll drop an email to the CO as I know he was still active 2 weeks ago.

In your e-mail, you might mention that "a dozen" DNFs might warrant a visit from the owner. :unsure:

3.3k · February 10, 2010

It's much akin to using the foot or hand wedge for a better lie in golf or miscounting strokes for a better score. The only person typically impacted is the player, but I can see how you'd be affected. I have a couple DNFs that I'm obsessed with that others apparently have no problem finding. Now I'm wondering if it is a similar situation. In such an individual sport, integrity is important.

Phony logs are actually pretty rare. If the cache you are watching is regularly being found then it is probably there and you just aren't finding it. Happens to all of us from time to time. Keep plugging away and you will find it some day. :unsure:

February 10, 2010

It's much akin to using the foot or hand wedge for a better lie in golf or miscounting strokes for a better score. The only person typically impacted is the player, but I can see how you'd be affected. I have a couple DNFs that I'm obsessed with that others apparently have no problem finding. Now I'm wondering if it is a similar situation. In such an individual sport, integrity is important.

Phony logs are actually pretty rare. If the cache you are watching is regularly being found then it is probably there and you just aren't finding it. Happens to all of us from time to time. Keep plugging away and you will find it some day.

AWWW, don't say that!! I SO want to believe that that @#$% one-star cache that I absolutely cannot find is missing! And that the dude who just logged a find on it is totally lying! :unsure:

3.9k · February 10, 2010

Post a Needs Archived log and move on.

February 10, 2010

I would send a VERY friendly, naive email, asking for advice on how to find this cache.

"I've tried to find this cache a couple of times. It is really driving me crazy. I even put it on my watchlist so I could see when someone else finds it. Can you help me out with a clue?"

You probably won't receive a response. I would do this just for fun.

February 10, 2010

I would send a VERY friendly, naive email, asking for advice on how to find this cache.

"I've tried to find this cache a couple of times. It is really driving me crazy. I even put it on my watchlist so I could see when someone else finds it. Can you help me out with a clue?"

You probably won't receive a response. I would do this just for fun.

:unsure: Thats funny... a little twisted... but funny. Would love to hear the response, if any!

7.4k · February 10, 2010

Notifying the CO, and then letting it go is likely the best way to go. The CO does have an obligation to watch out for bogus find logs.

38.2k · February 10, 2010

It is somewhat discouraging when you have few finds (like I do) and you are out on the trail trying to increase that number, and some clown "smokes" you with numbers of bogus finds. The flip side of the coin is, regardless of anyone elses numbers (and I dont care who they are or how long they have been doing this or how many finds they have) I know my numbers are genuine!! I personally dont want to play this game for the numbers!!! The competition I have is with the hider!!!!

The key is to focus on your last two sentences and forget about numbers, yours or anybody else's. You'll be a lot happier.

My objection to fake logs is purely practical. If the practice didn't have to potential to mess with other geocachers I wouldn't care if some phony logged 50,000 bogus finds.

February 10, 2010

I think we need a new log type: "discovered cache"

:unsure:

18.9k · February 10, 2010

I think we need a new log type: "discovered cache"

or....

"Saw cache from a distance - as I drove by"

4.8k · February 10, 2010

With zero penalty for logging a bogus find, or not logging a valid find, there will be nothing you can ever do to stop people from doing it. You can complain as much as you want but there's nothing you can do.

I used to get peeved when people didn't log a DNF but I'm over it now.

4.2k · February 10, 2010

With zero penalty for logging a bogus find, or not logging a valid find, there will be nothing you can ever do to stop people from doing it. You can complain as much as you want but there's nothing you can do.

I used to get peeved when people didn't log a DNF but I'm over it now.

As an uninvolved observer, I agree. As a cache owner- if I discover a bogus find I can inflict the "penalty" of deleting the Found It log and I can delete any subsequent bogus Found It logs.

Could I stop somebody from submitting a bogus log? Not so much.

4.8k · February 10, 2010

With zero penalty for logging a bogus find, or not logging a valid find, there will be nothing you can ever do to stop people from doing it. You can complain as much as you want but there's nothing you can do.

I used to get peeved when people didn't log a DNF but I'm over it now.

As an uninvolved observer, I agree. As a cache owner- if I discover a bogus find I can inflict the "penalty" of deleting the Found It log and I can delete any subsequent bogus Found It logs.

Could I stop somebody from submitting a bogus log? Not so much.

Sure you can delete bogus logs... but can you force online logs when all they do is sign the logsheet?

Can you enforce DNF logs?

Nope...

~LOL~

10.1k · February 10, 2010

Most of us play a game called geocaching. We hunt for geocaches. If we find them, we sign the log book/leave our signature in the cache, and log on-line to get a smiley.

Some people choose not to log on-line. That's their prerogative. Doesn't bother me.

What game these other people are playing is beyond me, but it isn't geocaching!

Today's snowstorm reminds me of our last drive-through. State basically closed with 7" of snow, this intrepid 'cacher' did a ten-mile u-turn on the Interstate in a semi to log rest stop caches on both sides. A mile down an unmaintained road for a cache. And climbed 250' uphill in .18 mile to find a cache hidden under a rock. Basically almost anything within a mile of the Intersate. Most of those logs were deleted, since there were no signatures.

What can you do? You might mention to the other COs that this feat seems very improbable. But, you mentioned that the found caches were mostly archived or not maintained. Inactive COs seldom delete bogs logs.

So, all that's left is to laugh at the ignoramus. Pity the fact that s/he is unable to enjoy a game that so many of us love. Say: "Oh, well." And continue to enjoy the game that you do enjoy.

4.8k · February 10, 2010

Most of us play a game called geocaching. We hunt for geocaches. If we find them, we sign the log book/leave our signature in the cache, and log on-line to get a smiley.

Some people choose not to log on-line. That's their prerogative. Doesn't bother me.

What game these other people are playing is beyond me, but it isn't geocaching!

Today's snowstorm reminds me of our last drive-through. State basically closed with 7" of snow, this intrepid 'cacher' did a ten-mile u-turn on the Interstate in a semi to log rest stop caches on both sides. A mile down an unmaintained road for a cache. And climbed 250' uphill in .18 mile to find a cache hidden under a rock. Basically almost anything within a mile of the Intersate. Most of those logs were deleted, since there were no signatures.

What can you do? You might mention to the other COs that this feat seems very improbable. But, you mentioned that the found caches were mostly archived or not maintained. Inactive COs seldom delete bogs logs.

So, all that's left is to laugh at the ignoramus. Pity the fact that s/he is unable to enjoy a game that so many of us love. Say: "Oh, well." And continue to enjoy the game that you do enjoy.

I think you are missing something obvious about the semi truck driver.

Husband - "But honey, the reason I'm six hours late is because I was GEOCACHING. Just look at my logs!"

wife - "FINE! NOW, explain the lipstick!! :unsure:

2.3k · February 10, 2010

With zero penalty for logging a bogus find, or not logging a valid find, there will be nothing you can ever do to stop people from doing it. You can complain as much as you want but there's nothing you can do.

I used to get peeved when people didn't log a DNF but I'm over it now.

As an uninvolved observer, I agree. As a cache owner- if I discover a bogus find I can inflict the "penalty" of deleting the Found It log and I can delete any subsequent bogus Found It logs.

Could I stop somebody from submitting a bogus log? Not so much.

Sure you can delete bogus logs... but can you force online logs when all they do is sign the logsheet?

Can you enforce DNF logs?

Nope...

~LOL~

You can't even enforce signing the logbook when the cacher has it in his/her hands.

There is nothing stopping someone from registering an account, grabbing coordinates and finding or not finding caches and never interacting with any other cacher.

I know that posting bogus finds can be detrimental in some cases. I also feel the failure to log DNFs can be detrimental in some cases.

But on the whole, I gotta agree with Bittsen once again and say it's just not worth getting worked up over.

2k · February 11, 2010

I know my numbers are genuine!!

While I consider myself a noobie, I will go out on a limb and offer this advice... this game is going to be what you make of it.

You've caught on quick!

I know my finds are genuine as well and that is what I try to focus on when I see other people logging caches that aren't there, etc.

I am still struggling mightily to figure out if I should log my 2 event caches as attended or not. I have a bunch of friends who do it, but it always seemed wrong since I'm getting "credit" for the cache as the owner. I leave it open. Someday I may decide to log my events as attended, but for now I do not. Either way, I can guarantee that every single one of my finds is "genuine" to me and thats all that matters.

2k · February 11, 2010

I used to get peeved when people didn't log a DNF but I'm over it now.

I'm still a little peeved about that just because their inaction does impact me. Last night, I went to a cache that I'm almost positive at least one person looked for before me and didn't log their dnf on.

:unsure:

I'll eventually get over it.........maybe

9.3k · February 11, 2010

I am still struggling mightily to figure out if I should log my 2 event caches as attended or not.

In my case, for the events & CITOs I've hosted, I will only log an "Attended" if I was actually there, in attendance.

If I don't attend my event, I won't log it as such. :unsure:

7.7k · February 11, 2010

"Saw cache from a distance - as I drove by"

What, no "replaced cache" log type, as in "I arrived there and the cache did not magically appear in my hands, so I determined it is missing and dropped a replacement film canister"?

I've heard of some people who are in it for the numbers who do that. Some do it with permission of the cache owner.

Edited February 11, 2010 by Chrysalides

2k · February 11, 2010

I am still struggling mightily to figure out if I should log my 2 event caches as attended or not.

In my case, for the events & CITOs I've hosted, I will only log an "Attended" if I was actually there, in attendance.

If I don't attend my event, I won't log it as such.

That's it. No more thinking about it. I'm gonna log my events as attended! I'm gonna do it! I'm gonna do it! Here I go! I'm doing it!!

7.9k · February 11, 2010

"Saw cache from a distance - as I drove by"

What, no "replaced cache" log type, as in "I arrived there and the cache did not magically appear in my hands, so I determined it is missing and dropped a replacement film canister"?

I've heard of some people who are in it for the numbers who do that. Some do it with permission of the cache owner.

And, most actually claim they are doing it as a service to the cache owner.

Who do you think is actually served here?

Oh well, no fuzz off my peach...except that I won't log the throw downs.

Once the owner maintains it, I'm all over it like a bad rash.

2.6k · February 11, 2010

"Saw cache from a distance - as I drove by"

What, no "replaced cache" log type, as in "I arrived there and the cache did not magically appear in my hands, so I determined it is missing and dropped a replacement film canister"?

I've heard of some people who are in it for the numbers who do that. Some do it with permission of the cache owner.

And, most actually claim they are doing it as a service to the cache owner.

Who do you think is actually served here?

Oh well, no fuzz off my peach...except that I won't log the throw downs.

Once the owner maintains it, I'm all over it like a bad rash.

Or you can do something like this

Here's my log from this cache

October 13, 2009 by vagabond (3744 found)

WOW The Caches at this site are reproducing like the rabbits, we were looking for one cache and found 2. Anyway we signed both logs and put the caches right next to each other, maybe the owner should come out and chase one away before they reproduce anymore caches

Signed the log thanks for the hides??

20.7k · February 11, 2010

... haven't decided what to do (if anything) but a quiet email to the cachers may follow...
Unless you own one of these caches, I would not recommend sending an email to the cachers. Instead, feel free to send 'heads up' emails to the cache owners.

I'm actually going to agree with sbell111 on this one.

Me too. It's not a first though; we've agreed about The Buffalo Bills for years.

That they stink, but will be better 'next year'. I find myself consistently pining for 'next year'.

20.7k · February 11, 2010

"Saw cache from a distance - as I drove by"

What, no "replaced cache" log type, as in "I arrived there and the cache did not magically appear in my hands, so I determined it is missing and dropped a replacement film canister"?

I've heard of some people who are in it for the numbers who do that. Some do it with permission of the cache owner.

And, most actually claim they are doing it as a service to the cache owner.

Who do you think is actually served here?

Oh well, no fuzz off my peach...except that I won't log the throw downs.

Once the owner maintains it, I'm all over it like a bad rash.

Truth be told, if the cache truly was missing, they are providing a service to both the cache owner and future cachers. If the cache was still there, they are just being silly.

Certainly, if a cacher were to 'throw down' a replacement, it would be best that he/she mention it in the online log so the cache owner can go out and verify that 1) the cache was actually missing, 2) the new cache is in the correct spot, and 3) the container is acceptable to the cache owner. In this sense, I see these 'throw down' caches as a temporary maintenance assist until the cache owner is able to get out to his cache.

4.2k · February 11, 2010

Sure you can delete bogus logs... but can you force online logs when all they do is sign the logsheet?

Can you enforce DNF logs?

Nope...

~LOL~

Too true. I don't even take these instances into consideration most times. I'd prefer they log the DNF, but short of the mind control ray I keep in the attic, there's not much you can do shy of requesting on the cache page that they log the DNF. That's one of those non-pet-able perspiring things.

38.2k · February 11, 2010

Truth be told, if the cache truly was missing, they are providing a service to both the cache owner and future cachers. If the cache was still there, they are just being silly.

The thing is that they usually can't be certain that the cache is missing. If they would like to provide a service they can use the appropriate website tool and log a DNF. Then the cache owner can judge from the log whether or not the cache requires a maintenance visit.

I think it's strange they when they perform this service they invariably log a "found it" even though they didn't find a thing. That makes me doubt the magnanimity of their "service".

20.7k · February 11, 2010

Truth be told, if the cache truly was missing, they are providing a service to both the cache owner and future cachers. If the cache was still there, they are just being silly.
The thing is that they usually can't be certain that the cache is missing. If they would like to provide a service they can use the appropriate website tool and log a DNF. Then the cache owner can judge from the log whether or not the cache requires a maintenance visit.

I think it's strange they when they perform this service they invariably log a "found it" even though they didn't find a thing. That makes me doubt the magnanimity of their "service".

Your position is clear.

Edited February 11, 2010 by sbell111

4.2k · February 11, 2010

Truth be told, if the cache truly was missing, they are providing a service to both the cache owner and future cachers. If the cache was still there, they are just being silly.

Certainly, if a cacher were to 'throw down' a replacement, it would be best that he/she mention it in the online log so the cache owner can go out and verify that 1) the cache was actually missing, 2) the new cache is in the correct spot, and 3) the container is acceptable to the cache owner. In this sense, I see these 'throw down' caches as a temporary maintenance assist until the cache owner is able to get out to his cache.

Even if the original cache is an ammo can and the throwdown is a plastic film can? Feels more to me like the throwerdowner is helping themselves to a number on their stats more than they are helping me maintain my cache the way that I intended it.

February 11, 2010

"Saw cache from a distance - as I drove by"

What, no "replaced cache" log type, as in "I arrived there and the cache did not magically appear in my hands, so I determined it is missing and dropped a replacement film canister"?

I've heard of some people who are in it for the numbers who do that. Some do it with permission of the cache owner.

And, most actually claim they are doing it as a service to the cache owner.

Who do you think is actually served here?

Oh well, no fuzz off my peach...except that I won't log the throw downs.

Once the owner maintains it, I'm all over it like a bad rash.

Or you can do something like this

Here's my log from this cache

October 13, 2009 by vagabond (3744 found)

WOW The Caches at this site are reproducing like the rabbits, we were looking for one cache and found 2. Anyway we signed both logs and put the caches right next to each other, maybe the owner should come out and chase one away before they reproduce anymore caches

Signed the log thanks for the hides??

Lol... I've seen logs of people just looking around for a couple of minutes, throwing the cache replacement and then just admit to it in the log. 'Cache was missing, we replaced it!' The CO found out because of the log, not even a message or a call.

February 11, 2010

Truth be told, if the cache truly was missing, they are providing a service to both the cache owner and future cachers. If the cache was still there, they are just being silly.

Certainly, if a cacher were to 'throw down' a replacement, it would be best that he/she mention it in the online log so the cache owner can go out and verify that 1) the cache was actually missing, 2) the new cache is in the correct spot, and 3) the container is acceptable to the cache owner. In this sense, I see these 'throw down' caches as a temporary maintenance assist until the cache owner is able to get out to his cache.

Even if the original cache is an ammo can and the throwdown is a plastic film can? Feels more to me like the throwerdowner is helping themselves to a number on their stats more than they are helping me maintain my cache the way that I intended it.

Some people just don't want the sad smiley, even if it accounts for nothing. Totally agree with you, instead of throwing down just log the DNF... it's not all about the numbers.

20.7k · February 11, 2010

Truth be told, if the cache truly was missing, they are providing a service to both the cache owner and future cachers. If the cache was still there, they are just being silly.

Certainly, if a cacher were to 'throw down' a replacement, it would be best that he/she mention it in the online log so the cache owner can go out and verify that 1) the cache was actually missing, 2) the new cache is in the correct spot, and 3) the container is acceptable to the cache owner. In this sense, I see these 'throw down' caches as a temporary maintenance assist until the cache owner is able to get out to his cache.

Even if the original cache is an ammo can and the throwdown is a plastic film can? Feels more to me like the throwerdowner is helping themselves to a number on their stats more than they are helping me maintain my cache the way that I intended it.

That very issue is covered in the post that you replied to.

20.7k · February 11, 2010

"Saw cache from a distance - as I drove by"
What, no "replaced cache" log type, as in "I arrived there and the cache did not magically appear in my hands, so I determined it is missing and dropped a replacement film canister"?

I've heard of some people who are in it for the numbers who do that. Some do it with permission of the cache owner.

And, most actually claim they are doing it as a service to the cache owner.
Who do you think is actually served here?

Oh well, no fuzz off my peach...except that I won't log the throw downs.

Once the owner maintains it, I'm all over it like a bad rash.

Or you can do something like this

Here's my log from this cache

October 13, 2009 by vagabond (3744 found)

WOW The Caches at this site are reproducing like the rabbits, we were looking for one cache and found 2. Anyway we signed both logs and put the caches right next to each other, maybe the owner should come out and chase one away before they reproduce anymore caches

Signed the log thanks for the hides??

Lol... I've seen logs of people just looking around for a couple of minutes, throwing the cache replacement and then just admit to it in the log. 'Cache was missing, we replaced it!' The CO found out because of the log, not even a message or a call.

You realize that the log generated an email message, right?

February 11, 2010

"Saw cache from a distance - as I drove by"
What, no "replaced cache" log type, as in "I arrived there and the cache did not magically appear in my hands, so I determined it is missing and dropped a replacement film canister"?

I've heard of some people who are in it for the numbers who do that. Some do it with permission of the cache owner.

And, most actually claim they are doing it as a service to the cache owner.
Who do you think is actually served here?

Oh well, no fuzz off my peach...except that I won't log the throw downs.

Once the owner maintains it, I'm all over it like a bad rash.

Or you can do something like this

Here's my log from this cache

October 13, 2009 by vagabond (3744 found)

WOW The Caches at this site are reproducing like the rabbits, we were looking for one cache and found 2. Anyway we signed both logs and put the caches right next to each other, maybe the owner should come out and chase one away before they reproduce anymore caches

Signed the log thanks for the hides??

Lol... I've seen logs of people just looking around for a couple of minutes, throwing the cache replacement and then just admit to it in the log. 'Cache was missing, we replaced it!' The CO found out because of the log, not even a message or a call.
You realize that the log generated an email message, right?

I actually do realize that logs generate a message to COs and watchers. However, if it was a cache of my own, before messing around with it I would appreciate them looking me up in my geocaching profile and sendind me a message PRIOR to just replacing!

4.2k · February 11, 2010

Truth be told, if the cache truly was missing, they are providing a service to both the cache owner and future cachers. If the cache was still there, they are just being silly.

Certainly, if a cacher were to 'throw down' a replacement, it would be best that he/she mention it in the online log so the cache owner can go out and verify that 1) the cache was actually missing, 2) the new cache is in the correct spot, and 3) the container is acceptable to the cache owner. In this sense, I see these 'throw down' caches as a temporary maintenance assist until the cache owner is able to get out to his cache.

Even if the original cache is an ammo can and the throwdown is a plastic film can? Feels more to me like the throwerdowner is helping themselves to a number on their stats more than they are helping me maintain my cache the way that I intended it.

That very issue is covered in the post that you replied to.

Ah.

3) the container is acceptable to the cache owner

I guess this assumes that the throwerdowner is contacting the CO before they drop the film can. This happens?

19k · February 11, 2010

You realize that the log generated an email message, right?

Usually it will. But not always. Edited February 11, 2010 by knowschad

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