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I'm still not seeing what the problems are. I'm only bringing it up, because people's comments seem to be so far away from my experience, that I wonder if I'm either out of it, or....something (yeah, ok!). :)

 

I really dislike change. I'm usually one of the ones sitting there being upset, even though I don't usually say much because I know from experience that I'll get used to the change eventually. I disliked when the site changed from the bright kelly green to the more mellow sage-ish green we have now (many years ago, I'm dating myself). But now, of course, I love this green better than the almost neon one before that. :angry:

 

Anyways, this cosmetic change seems to be very slight, to me. I would have barely noticed it if it hadn't been announced. Mainly the same, but with a slightly more structured feel to the pages that is nice. I don't see why everyone is saying "ugly", since the change seems to be miniscule. I guess I'll never really know, as I can't see ya'll's computer screens. Some of the screen shots and specific complaints don't seem to be happening on my computer (except for Crow's screenshot). The cache logs look fine, no big white spaces, everything is displaying fine on my screen, spread out just fine, colors are fine, profile's the same as before, font's fine.

 

Hm. <_<:P

 

Just thought I'd throw another screen shot in here to validate other folks' claims that their "Friends" page is messed up. What's wrong with this page? Besides Slimy being my Friend, I mean...

 

Whitespace3.jpg

 

Looking over this thread, I have counted ONE person who likes the white space to...oh, I don't know, a hundred maybe? who HATE it. It makes users scroll unnecessarily. It prints out the same way it looks on the page and uses twice as much paper - don't make me go all environmental on you! And any editor who employed it in today's world would be out of a job faster than he could say "spit." Would YOU read a magazine if you had to turn pages every few words?

 

Let me put it in very simple terms for the Groundspeak Team:

 

DITCH THE WHITE SPACE!

IT'S BAD DESIGN!

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The friends layout page appears to have been fixed.

Not on my display! I just checked and...ah, my poor dashed hopes! It still looks just like the screen shot above.

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On Geocaching map doesnt work "Hide My Finds" and "Hide My Caches" option...

 

onclick javascript must have broke. If you zoom in or out after clicking on those options, it does change. Or click check for a cache type and then check mark back in.

 

My maps aren't loading at all... (Firefox 3.5.7)

 

This is still an issue for me...same version of Firefox. <_<

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From my perspective: this is depressing... and as for the justification, that is just PPPlanning! It seems to me that by the time Groundspeak came in to the picture as "the listing service" geocaching was a world wide game. Hell it is on the World Wide Web - Why would you not have included multilingual functionality as a core feature from incarnation?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_T...ructure_Library

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User-centered_design

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Maps not displaying on Trackable map. Win XP, IE6.

 

 

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I was wrong, this is for all maps. I can see the preview maps on the cache page, but when I click to bring up the full size version they all look like this. I'm sure IE6 is not helping, but it's not an option from where I'm currently viewing the website.

 

Also funkyness on some of my cache pages:

 

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Thank you for the great replies. I was prepared to hear about these bugs and apologize for the inconvenience.

 

Design feedback is appreciated, but I'm sure you understand the priority at the moment is for broken functionality. Feel free to voice your feedback but please don't expect a reply yet.

 

Nudecacher and missionMode, please leave those PQ titles alone for the moment as I've used them as examples in the bug doc. Thanks.

 

I have bugs open for the rest of your reports as well, and will update you on their status when I am able.

 

Curious... If it was known that the scripting flaws would cause such a problem, why push the update before at least the design coding issues were resolved? Are you moonlighting for Microsoft? <_<

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Hi All

 

Well, I have just logged in at home using Win XP I.E ver 8 and all seems to be ok. At work IE ver 6 I had the same problem as many others.

 

1 No maps like Castle Mischief and overlaping boxes.

2 The log box overlaps the photo on my travel bug's page.

3 No icons on the map pages. No Satellite view.

4 Could not do a search, all I got was page could not be loaded.

 

So, maybe you could quote which OS and version of IE to see if that is the problem.

 

Changed my <_<:P to :):angry:

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I'm still not seeing what the problems are. I'm only bringing it up, because people's comments seem to be so far away from my experience, that I wonder if I'm either out of it, or....something (yeah, ok!). :angry:

 

I really dislike change. I'm usually one of the ones sitting there being upset, even though I don't usually say much because I know from experience that I'll get used to the change eventually. I disliked when the site changed from the bright kelly green to the more mellow sage-ish green we have now (many years ago, I'm dating myself). But now, of course, I love this green better than the almost neon one before that. ;)

 

Anyways, this cosmetic change seems to be very slight, to me. I would have barely noticed it if it hadn't been announced. Mainly the same, but with a slightly more structured feel to the pages that is nice. I don't see why everyone is saying "ugly", since the change seems to be miniscule. I guess I'll never really know, as I can't see ya'll's computer screens. Some of the screen shots and specific complaints don't seem to be happening on my computer (except for Crow's screenshot). The cache logs look fine, no big white spaces, everything is displaying fine on my screen, spread out just fine, colors are fine, profile's the same as before, font's fine.

 

Hm. <_<:P

I'm glad that I'm not the only one.

Thanks, I don't feel as crazy, now. Or else there's just another crazy out there, which ever the case may be. :):)

Make it 3. I kinda like it.
I'm with you guys. I've tried on three monitors now, with resolutions of 800x600 up to 1280x1040 and the general layout doesn't bother me one bit.

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Now 70% of the time I get a popup error box:

 

"Internet Explorer cannot open the site http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest.asp...877&dist=25

 

Operation Aborted"

 

 

Getting the same error.

 

I continue to get the same error, and it happens every time I try to browse cache listings, whether I am searching from my profile page, or the front page, or if I search for caches by a particular user.

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Don't let us be Beta-Tester! Switch back to the old version till you have corrected all errors!

 

AGREED!!!

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I'm still not seeing what the problems are. I'm only bringing it up, because people's comments seem to be so far away from my experience, that I wonder if I'm either out of it, or....something (yeah, ok!). :)

 

I really dislike change. I'm usually one of the ones sitting there being upset, even though I don't usually say much because I know from experience that I'll get used to the change eventually. I disliked when the site changed from the bright kelly green to the more mellow sage-ish green we have now (many years ago, I'm dating myself). But now, of course, I love this green better than the almost neon one before that. :angry:

 

Anyways, this cosmetic change seems to be very slight, to me. I would have barely noticed it if it hadn't been announced. Mainly the same, but with a slightly more structured feel to the pages that is nice. I don't see why everyone is saying "ugly", since the change seems to be miniscule. I guess I'll never really know, as I can't see ya'll's computer screens. Some of the screen shots and specific complaints don't seem to be happening on my computer (except for Crow's screenshot). The cache logs look fine, no big white spaces, everything is displaying fine on my screen, spread out just fine, colors are fine, profile's the same as before, font's fine.

 

Hm. <_<:P

 

Just thought I'd throw another screen shot in here to validate other folks' claims that their "Friends" page is messed up. What's wrong with this page? Besides Slimy being my Friend, I mean...

 

Whitespace3.jpg

 

Looking over this thread, I have counted ONE person who likes the white space to...oh, I don't know, a hundred maybe? who HATE it. It makes users scroll unnecessarily. It prints out the same way it looks on the page and uses twice as much paper - don't make me go all environmental on you! And any editor who employed it in today's world would be out of a job faster than he could say "spit." Would YOU read a magazine if you had to turn pages every few words?

 

Let me put it in very simple terms for the Groundspeak Team:

 

DITCH THE WHITE SPACE!

IT'S BAD DESIGN!

 

My friends page has a big blank spot...

 

myfriends-screenshot.jpg

 

My screen resolution is 1680 X 1050

 

-Nathan

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Now 70% of the time I get a popup error box:

 

"Internet Explorer cannot open the site http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest.asp...877&dist=25

 

Operation Aborted"

 

 

Getting the same error.

 

I continue to get the same error, and it happens every time I try to browse cache listings, whether I am searching from my profile page, or the front page, or if I search for caches by a particular user.

 

When I posted that, I was at work behind a large company firewall, the Internet speed was only around 2Megs where as it is normanly 30Megs + I was using IE 6 and works versoin of XP.

 

Now I am at home I am on Win XP and IE v 8 Internet speed around 3 megs.

 

My resolution is 1280 x 1024 and it is fine. At work it is something strange, not too sure what.

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I'm still not seeing what the problems are. I'm only bringing it up, because people's comments seem to be so far away from my experience, that I wonder if I'm either out of it, or....something (yeah, ok!). :)

 

I really dislike change. I'm usually one of the ones sitting there being upset, even though I don't usually say much because I know from experience that I'll get used to the change eventually. I disliked when the site changed from the bright kelly green to the more mellow sage-ish green we have now (many years ago, I'm dating myself). But now, of course, I love this green better than the almost neon one before that. :angry:

 

Anyways, this cosmetic change seems to be very slight, to me. I would have barely noticed it if it hadn't been announced. Mainly the same, but with a slightly more structured feel to the pages that is nice. I don't see why everyone is saying "ugly", since the change seems to be miniscule. I guess I'll never really know, as I can't see ya'll's computer screens. Some of the screen shots and specific complaints don't seem to be happening on my computer (except for Crow's screenshot). The cache logs look fine, no big white spaces, everything is displaying fine on my screen, spread out just fine, colors are fine, profile's the same as before, font's fine.

 

Hm. <_<:P

 

Just thought I'd throw another screen shot in here to validate other folks' claims that their "Friends" page is messed up. What's wrong with this page? Besides Slimy being my Friend, I mean...

 

Whitespace3.jpg

 

Looking over this thread, I have counted ONE person who likes the white space to...oh, I don't know, a hundred maybe? who HATE it. It makes users scroll unnecessarily. It prints out the same way it looks on the page and uses twice as much paper - don't make me go all environmental on you! And any editor who employed it in today's world would be out of a job faster than he could say "spit." Would YOU read a magazine if you had to turn pages every few words?

 

Let me put it in very simple terms for the Groundspeak Team:

 

DITCH THE WHITE SPACE!

IT'S BAD DESIGN!

 

My friends page has a big blank spot...

 

myfriends-screenshot.jpg

 

My screen resolution is 1680 X 1050

 

-Nathan

 

I have noted the same problem... along with the # of finds / hides displayed not agreeing to what is actual.

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when doing this http://www.geocaching.com/map/default.aspx...mp;lng=5.678217 the cache list scrolls of the list (right bottom corner)
I noticed the same thing this morning (using IE8) I'm still catching up on the thread, but if nobody has posted any screenshots, I will later.

 

 

Here is what I'm seeing in IE8 (XP) regarding the cache list on maps

 

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Edited to add: I see the same thing on another computer running IE 7 (also XP)

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Please assure me they have more than one server. Can you magine if the computer crashed? One server would be INSANE!

I hope you are wrong.

 

This is NOT an IF, rather a WHEN.

 

There certainly is more than one server. however perhaps not redudant servers for each service hosted. (Back end Imagry server, back end Database Server, Front end Web Server, Email server etc...)

 

We learned however back when there was a fire in the building hosting the NOC that there is a single point of failure that needs to be addressed and to me, should have been addressed long before pooching the appearance and functionality of a global site.

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My friends page has a big blank spot...

 

myfriends-screenshot.jpg

 

My screen resolution is 1680 X 1050

 

-Nathan

 

Internet Explorer has always rendered like this for me. I would love to see this fixed.

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I'm still not seeing what the problems are. I'm only bringing it up, because people's comments seem to be so far away from my experience, that I wonder if I'm either out of it, or....something (yeah, ok!). :angry:

 

I really dislike change. I'm usually one of the ones sitting there being upset, even though I don't usually say much because I know from experience that I'll get used to the change eventually. I disliked when the site changed from the bright kelly green to the more mellow sage-ish green we have now (many years ago, I'm dating myself). But now, of course, I love this green better than the almost neon one before that. ;)

 

Anyways, this cosmetic change seems to be very slight, to me. I would have barely noticed it if it hadn't been announced. Mainly the same, but with a slightly more structured feel to the pages that is nice. I don't see why everyone is saying "ugly", since the change seems to be miniscule. I guess I'll never really know, as I can't see ya'll's computer screens. Some of the screen shots and specific complaints don't seem to be happening on my computer (except for Crow's screenshot). The cache logs look fine, no big white spaces, everything is displaying fine on my screen, spread out just fine, colors are fine, profile's the same as before, font's fine.

 

Hm. <_<:P

I'm glad that I'm not the only one.

Thanks, I don't feel as crazy, now. Or else there's just another crazy out there, which ever the case may be. :):)

Make it 3. I kinda like it.
I'm with you guys. I've tried on three monitors now, with resolutions of 800x600 up to 1280x1040 and the general layout doesn't bother me one bit.

 

The problem I have with the layout is what use to be a nice neat concise one line display is now at least two lines with lots of white space before and after. On my profile page I use to have lots of caches listed on one screen, now I only have a few and have to scroll for ever to see the list. Other pages suffers from poor layout. I bet if the forum had the same layout you would notice it and not like it.

 

Jim

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Hate it with all my soul! What have GS do to the page! Not an update but a downdate a worstdate, wathever you want to call it!

 

If i knew it early never have done my reniew! <_<

 

Oh my god io cant believe you have made this kind of update! I hope they wake up and revert this situation!

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The problem I have with the layout is what use to be a nice neat concise one line display is now at least two lines with lots of white space before and after. On my profile page I use to have lots of caches listed on one screen, now I only have a few and have to scroll for ever to see the list. Other pages suffers from poor layout. I bet if the forum had the same layout you would notice it and not like it. Jim
I'm wondering if we're seen the same thing, Jim. Your profile page looks very normal to me. Would you care to post a screenshot and I'll validate if that looks different?

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My friends page has a big blank spot...

 

myfriends-screenshot.jpg

 

My screen resolution is 1680 X 1050

 

-Nathan

 

I wonder if some of the problem is the evergrowing preponderance of widescreen monitors which programmers really don't think about when designing their tables.

 

My monitor resolution is 1920x1080 and I have the same issue. HOWEVER, if I grab the bottom right corner of the browser and drag it narrower, a whole boatload of the whitespace disappears (not the line-spacing, sadly) and it looks much better. Sadly, this is still a design problem, I use a lot of sites that have wide non-fixed tables and they fill in the blank space just fine (this site being a good example).

 

I wish that the browsers (in my case the latest Firefox) would let you specify a resolution per tab so that I could force the GC website to pretend to be 1024 wide and look not quite as obnoxious.

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After reading through this thread, it seems to me there are TWO basic issues here in the new site. The first issue seems to be that there were some upgrades that NEEDED to take place, which created some design issues and scripting problems. I can wait for adjustments to be made on those.

 

BUT - then there were changes that didn't NEED to be made (changing MINE to YOURS, etc.), that someone apparently said, "well, why don't we change this to that while we're doing this."

 

All I can say is that it's generally not a good idea to implement new designs where they are not wanted in your customer base. New customers won't care, but old customers may start beefing up the competition. GC.com is like Bandaids and Velcro - it's the brand name that lets people understand what you're talking about. If you want to keep ahead of the generic brands, your redesigns should make the current customer base smile, not look elsewhere.

 

Go ahead with the stuff that HAS to be changed, but please put things back that were arbitrarily changed for no reason other than someone thought it might be a good idea. It wasn't.

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The problem I have with the layout is what use to be a nice neat concise one line display is now at least two lines with lots of white space before and after. On my profile page I use to have lots of caches listed on one screen, now I only have a few and have to scroll for ever to see the list. Other pages suffers from poor layout. I bet if the forum had the same layout you would notice it and not like it. Jim
I'm wondering if we're seen the same thing, Jim. Your profile page looks very normal to me. Would you care to post a screenshot and I'll validate if that looks different?

 

Here's what I see:

whitespace.jpg

 

The rows are way too tall, the columns are too long in some areas and too short in others. The right most column is nearly 2x the width as before and the View Log column is now two lines. Sure fixing the column width on the view log column would help but it still leaves too much whitespace above and below the text in the columns.

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Don't know if this one has been reported but the decryption key on listings with hints now appears between the title "Additional Hints (Decrypt)" and the encrypted hint itself - this on Firefox 3.0.17. Makes for very confusing reading. Much prefer the older display. Or at the least, put the decryption key below the actual hint.

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Map backgrounds not loading in IE6/Win XP.

 

Searched for caches by zip code (it happens with any zip code). System returned list of caches.

Clicked View on Map. Expected to see cache icons on map. System displayed cache icons on a grey background, no map.

Clicked Satellite option. Expected to see satellite photo with roads and caches. System displayed cache icons and roads, but no photo.

Clicked on Terrain option. Expected to see terrain map with caches. System displayed caches on plain grey background.

Clicked on Topo option. System displayed cache icons and topo maps.

 

Yes, I cleared temporary internet files. Yes, I reloaded the page. Yes, I tried various zip codes.

 

If support for IE6/WinXP was dropped, please let us know. I am working at Cheapskate, Inc. and they still use this ancient browser and operating system on their PCs.

 

My opinion on the UI changes--I'm basically unimpressed by the whitespace changes but think it is the lowest priority in terms of fixing. The change from My/Mine to Your is more troubling because it projects a company-centric rather than customer-centric viewpoint. Most companies, at least, pretend that it is all about the customer...

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My friends page has a big blank spot...

 

myfriends-screenshot.jpg

 

My screen resolution is 1680 X 1050

 

-Nathan

 

I have noted the same problem... along with the # of finds / hides displayed not agreeing to what is actual.

 

This has been an issue as far back as I can remember having the Friends facility. You'd think repairing it would have a higher priority than changing "Mine" to "Yours," but peoples' priorities ARE different, as we all know.

 

"Bandaids and Velcro"...good one, Gitonyerhorse! :lol:

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Maps arent loading at all using Firefox3.5.7.

AVANT Browser works, but the new format MAP and CACHE list on the right side doesnt

fix at all anymore.

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The problem I have with the layout is what use to be a nice neat concise one line display is now at least two lines with lots of white space before and after. On my profile page I use to have lots of caches listed on one screen, now I only have a few and have to scroll for ever to see the list. Other pages suffers from poor layout. I bet if the forum had the same layout you would notice it and not like it. Jim
I'm wondering if we're seen the same thing, Jim. Your profile page looks very normal to me. Would you care to post a screenshot and I'll validate if that looks different?

 

My (ah, er, Your?) personal profile ...

personalprofile.png

These use to be nice concise one line listings, many per screen. Now two lines with lots of white space before and after, scrolling for ever to get to the bottom. Yes, Yes, I know, don't find so many and the list will be shorter :lol: .

 

Now my public profile is

PublicProfile1.png

 

But use to be

PublicProfile2.png

 

The world66 map disapeared and the tables no longer have the grids I want.

 

Jim

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phooey
:lol:

 

Anyway... yes, I can concur with what you are seeing. I guess it just sounded a lot worse than (in my opinion) it is.

 

I do see some very funky behavior in the "JHolly has too many finds on too many unique geocaches" box when I run the browser in less than full screen mode, though. The gray window then extends beyond the white portion of the page, into the green margin.

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Maps arent loading at all using Firefox3.5.7.

AVANT Browser works, but the new format MAP and CACHE list on the right side doesnt

fix at all anymore.

 

I have Firefox 3.0.15 and the maps loaded fine as they have always done.

 

What is going on?? :lol::P:D

 

Seems to work for some and not others.

 

Could it be that there are different servers and some people are using different ones ???

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Besides the page layout really sucking, if I go to "Your [actually MY] Geocaching Logs (Filtered by Log Type)" and select the "Found It" filter, it reports "4950 Results", about 70 fewer caches than I actually have. 55 of those are apparently "Event" caches that are no longer counted as "Found." An event cache has a logbook and isn't any different than a 'regular' cache in that regards so why doesn't it count as a find? I'm not sure yet what else isn't counted.

 

While I appreciate the effort to improve the site, this downgrade didn't do it.

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Besides the fact that the new layout simply has no charm ...

 

Am I the only one who is unable to print the first page of the cache discriptions???

 

All info is nearly outside the paper format on the reight side (only a few characters are visible) - and of course it doesn't change when I switch between horizontal and landscape page setup.

 

Funny ... on pages 2+ it's ok.

 

Whoever has written such a crippled CSS code ... go ahead, read your books!!!

 

What a mess!!!

 

Cheers

Dirk

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Could it be that there are different servers and some people are using different ones ???

Yes, there are four different web servers. Do a DNS lookup on www.geocaching.com repeatedly and it will return four different IP addresses.

 

It is entirely possible that some code on some of the servers was not updated properly. Hopefully this will get sorted out over the next few days.

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These use to be nice concise one line listings, many per screen. Now two lines with lots of white space before and after, scrolling for ever to get to the bottom. Yes, Yes, I know, don't find so many and the list will be shorter :lol: .

There is a script for that.

 

That'll probably be my mantra in this forum for a while :P

 

I'm working on one to remove some unnecessary (to me) side panel items. I have one version running already, but I'm trying to see if I can make it configurable.

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I don't think this one has been reported yet based on my quick scan through 6 pages of comments. When looking at TB history for a cache, some location icons are missing. For example, on this page, the icon for ToastyTubes EEPROM is missing:

http://www.geocaching.com/track/search.asp...d2-b744a888871c

 

Looking at the html, I see it's using: <img src="new_/images/track/loc_user.jpg", while the next one under it is using the same icon without new_.

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These use to be nice concise one line listings, many per screen. Now two lines with lots of white space before and after, scrolling for ever to get to the bottom. Yes, Yes, I know, don't find so many and the list will be shorter :lol: .

There is a script for that.

 

That'll probably be my mantra in this forum for a while :P

 

I'm working on one to remove some unnecessary (to me) side panel items. I have one version running already, but I'm trying to see if I can make it configurable.

 

Yes I saw that. If it is not sorted out by Friday I will probably resort to using that. But I'm hoping GS will fix the problem in the next day or two. (holding breath now)

 

Jim

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Advanced Search

 

I have noticed that the "Exclude your owned or found items from results" option does not work when search using Postal Code.

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For example, rather than being formatted perfectly for english text, all fields have to be 'expandable' so that they can fit longer german words.

 

No. If you want to put in longer text you need more space, not less as we have it now with all the white space.

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Besides the page layout really sucking, if I go to "Your [actually MY] Geocaching Logs (Filtered by Log Type)" and select the "Found It" filter, it reports "4950 Results", about 70 fewer caches than I actually have. 55 of those are apparently "Event" caches that are no longer counted as "Found." An event cache has a logbook and isn't any different than a 'regular' cache in that regards so why doesn't it count as a find? I'm not sure yet what else isn't counted.

 

While I appreciate the effort to improve the site, this downgrade didn't do it.

 

I'm guessing because you're looking at *found it* logs and not *attended* logs. If you go to your profile via http://www.geocaching.com/profile/ click on the "geocaches" tab and see if the numbers add up there.

 

Looking at your profile, I see the total as 5014 found:

 

Traditional Caches * 3604

Multi-caches * 180

Virtual Caches * 35

Letterbox Hybrids * 25

Event Caches * 52

Unknown (Mystery) Caches * 935

Webcam Caches * 9

Locationless (Reverse) Caches * 160

Cache In Trash Out Events * 3

Earthcaches * 11

*Total Caches Found 5014

 

Your events are still crediting to your total.

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I hope this is an IE6 issue and things look better when I get back home to Firefox and Chrome, but from here my cache page for GC1K291 looks really borked up.

Click for screenshot.

Looks fine here using IE8. Blame your employer.

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Okay, I've found a bug.

 

Nevermind...the bug cleared. It must take a few minutes for the different pages to update, but here is what I wrote originally so people know...

 

Some new caches came out in CT today with hidden dates of 1/11/2010, but they're not showing up on the "by State Page"

 

The last caches showing on that page have been around for awhile and were hidden on 1/6/2010.

 

Here's the link to the CT page that's showing incorrectly:

http://www.geocaching.com/local/default.aspx?state_id=7

 

Here's a link to one of the caches showing a later date hidden:

http://coord.info/GC22V95/

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When I type in say Midland Texas and pull up a cache when I DBL click on the lower map it is VERY SLOW and the map comes up with just a blue screen but the caches show up, but noi streets at all, it is only when I click on the Satellite option that a road map pops up but not the satellite view. Man this whole update has screwed up so many different things it seems like the update has done more harm then good my GSAK paste to GC.com is also screwed up.

 

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Localizing will enable us to provide the non-English speaking community with a more friendly site by translating common pages and navigation into various languages.

 

Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't it internalisation, not localisation, most people are asking for?

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