OpinioNate Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) Site Updated! And GreaseMonkey... With the latest release of Geocaching.com, we have modernized the site to allow us to move forward with future projects in an effort to better address the needs of our users. In doing so, some third-party tools, such as GreaseMonkey Scripts, may no longer work because of changes to the underlying structure of the site. We regret that some browser addons will break but it was necessary for us to make these changes ahead of the site localization effort we have planned for this year. Localizing will enable us to provide the non-English speaking community with a more friendly site by translating common pages and navigation into various languages. We recognize that the GreaseMonkey scripts in particular serve a legitimate need in many cases, so we plan to integrate the most popular scripts wherever possible to render them obsolete (with kind regards to their creators). Design Changes and Bug Reporting We have attempted to seek and destroy all the bugs associated with the update to the look and feel of the website, however it is perhaps not realistic to claim we found them all. If you discover any issues please report them here with your browser type and version, along with a description of what you were trying to do when the bug occurred. As always, please open new threads for issues not related to this release. Thanks! And now the release notes: 13862: Default cache submission to 1.5 terrain stars Cache submission now defaults to 1.5 star terrain for all geocaches 13310: One click email unsubscribe No longer requiring username/password to remove oneself from the email list 12950: DeLorme Send to GPS failing on certain caches Fixed error in DeLorme Send to GPS when one or more of last 5 logs contain a blank line 13422: Replace Dutch Brochures Updated Dutch language brochures with new version in /resources 14481: Inaccurate message after deleting an Instant Notification Changed message to correctly instruct the user in creating a new notification 2734: Badges for site volunteers and admins Added new profile icon and status to help identify official volunteers and Groundspeak lackeys 14063: Addition to Geocoin Manufacturers & Resellers tab Added http://www.geocoins.ca/ and http://geocachingshop.nl/ 12179: Add wbcoins.de to the Geocoin Manufacturer list Added 12994: Addition to Geocoin Manufacturers & Resellers tab Added directmint.com 12326: Add Silly's Caching Supplies to Geocoin manufacturer's list Added 14064: Addition to Geocaching Software page Added http://www.logicweave.com/cachestats.html 12896: Addition to Travel Bug FAQ Added text describing how to print an info sheet and how to transfer ownership of a trackable 13482: "About Groundspeak" on geocaching.com Updated number of reported Groundspeak employees from 20+ to 40+ (no we did not all clone each other) 13460: New distributor on Geocoin Manufacturer list Added distributor http://www.milcoins.com/ 12895: Addition to Geocoin FAQ Added instructions for printing a geocoin info sheet 11511: Locked cache page still allows a new note. Locked caches no longer allow any logs of any type 13982: GPX converts between time formats Added proper notation to .GPX to indicate the time format used is UTC 10180: Geocaching.com does not require account validation to login Now requiring account validation to login 10790: Trackable Item mileage not updating and 'recalculate distance' doesn't work Made some fixes to address the mileage update issues for Trackables 10631: UK postal code gives caches in the wrong area. Resolved the last of the ambiguous postal code issue 8797: Default hemisphere values for Additional Waypoints Now defaulting the to the cache's hemisphere values when submitting add’l waypoints 13326: Email for Expiry of Premium Membership Updated text for Premium Membership expiration email to remove erroneous information 13359: Replace Geocaching Logo for Download Updated Geocaching.com logos on the Logo Usage page. 13289: Same postal code gives different results on home page vs. advanced search Now using one postal code DB on all searches 12029: Search results that contain ignored cache don't list it, but lose a result No longer possible to see no search results when the nearest caches returned are ignored 13426: Premium Trial text changes Clarified "Note:" on /freetrial/default.aspx 14083: Add left nav selection for GPS Reviews Updated the navigation to include a new link for "GPS Reviews" and updated the footer link from "GPS Devices" to "GPS Reviews." 12709: GPS Devices and Reviews Pages Have Old Data Cleaned up test reviews and fixed sorting issue 13375: EarthCaches: add an additional link to EC guidelines Added agreement checkbox to submission pages when the Earthcache type is selected 13350: Change to brochure page Fixed spelling of "Nederlandse" 13374: EarthCaches: make the EarthCache type available to everyone Added ability for users to select Earthcache type when submitting a new cache 14058: Inactive Geocache Submittal Text Changes Rewrote cache submission page errors and messages to reduce confusion when an inactivated cache is saved 13274: Manufacturer device dropdown on GPS pages is improperly populated, labeled Fixed in GPS Reviews redesign 13411: Homepage text change Updated home page cache counter with new text and statistics covering 30 days instead of just 7 14075: Replace login popup when changing email address Changing email settings now requires password in the same way as other profile changes 13325: User with metric unit preferences is receiving weekly mailer in Imperial units Fixed 6691: Bookmark bugs - Changing cache type results in wrong bookmark listing Changes made to cache pages now reflected on bookmark list 13312: When setting account preferences, time zone drop-down defaults to GMT Fixed issue where the time zone drop-down reverted to GMT, overwriting user’s previous settings 11263: Allow armed forces addresses for membership creation Added option to select AA (Armed Forces Americas), AE (Armed Forces Europe) or AP (Armed Forces Pacific) as the state value 12144: Map on cache edit page inaccurate Map now reflects coordinates accurately 13320: Geocaching Logo needs circle R trademark on all geocaching.com pages Added the Registered Trademark symbol to the Geocaching logos in the upper left of each page. 12776: Include metric distance in coordinate change log calculation Added "distance from old" in meters 14215: No indication of which account will be unsubscribed when using one-click unsubscribe in weekly mailer Fixed 13080: PQ: Selecting "By Home Coordinates" and a region/state results in 0 caches Fixed 13216: Cannot unsubscribe to field notes for Twitter without an active Twitter account Added "Remove Account" button allowing user to remove their Twitter account settings 14026: subscriber-only cache should be called Premium Member Only Cache Fixed text on geocache details page 9262: Trackable log encryption fails Trackable logs now properly encrypt 4633: time stamps need time zone specified Time stamps now specify GMT 11424: Attributes included in GPX files. Added ability to set version preference in user profile; default is still the original (old) version 9987: Posting found logs on non-standard caches (events, web cams, etc.) does not auto-fill proper log type When posting field notes for events and other extended cache types a "found it” will convert to the appropriate log type 10654: Error in UK Grid reference display order. The British Grid reference was erroneously displayed as Northings then Eastings. 12182: HTML tags in trackable name break page formatting Fixed 14019: Text Change: Bookmark instructions Changed "todo list" to "to do list" 9028: My GPS: Device model type dropdown out of position when containing long names Updated CSS to accommodate longer dropdown lists 13992: Altrec Store Link - Text Change Updated Altrec link in footer to read "Altrec Gear." 12987: Automated message for 'Missing' travel bugs Fixed issue where cache archive notification URLs were adding a parenthesis resulting in a 404 13287: South Korean province mispelled Fixed 13159: Timestamps at the bottom of cache_details.aspx need labels. Clarified time stamps in cache footer Edited January 12, 2010 by OpinioNate Link to comment
+benh57 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Look and feel update... scary This one's gonna be good. If the look and feel changed at all i'm expecting forum explosion in 5...4... 3... as soon as the site reopens /popcorn Link to comment
+ZSandmann Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Yup waiting on the site to reappear myself. This was awesome though 13482: "About Groundspeak" on geocaching.comUpdated number of reported Groundspeak employees from 20+ to 40+ (no we did not all clone each other) Link to comment
+benh57 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) oops, forum lag... Edited January 12, 2010 by benh57 Link to comment
+Lil Devil Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 With the latest release of Geocaching.com, we have modernized the site to allow us to move forward with future projects in an effort to better address the needs of our users. In doing so, some third-party tools, such as GreaseMonkey Scripts, may no longer work because of changes to the underlying structure of the site. We regret that some browser addons will break ... Since I was a beta tester for the new site, I have already updated most of my Greasemonkey scripts to work with the new layout. But in doing so, they are no longer compatible with the old layout, so I'm going to wait a couple of hours to make sure no show-stopping problems are found that necessitates going back. It's not that I don't have faith in the beta-testers, but history has shown that a wider audience often seems to find problems that the beta-testers missed. I will post a list of all my scripts, plus links to upgrade, in a future post. Link to comment
+Tequila Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 With the latest release of Geocaching.com, we have modernized the site to allow us to move forward with future projects in an effort to better address the needs of our users. In doing so, some third-party tools, such as GreaseMonkey Scripts, may no longer work because of changes to the underlying structure of the site. We regret that some browser addons will break ... Since I was a beta tester for the new site, I have already updated most of my Greasemonkey scripts to work with the new layout. But in doing so, they are no longer compatible with the old layout, so I'm going to wait a couple of hours to make sure no show-stopping problems are found that necessitates going back. It's not that I don't have faith in the beta-testers, but history has shown that a wider audience often seems to find problems that the beta-testers missed. I will post a list of all my scripts, plus links to upgrade, in a future post. Lil Devil, Your efforts highlight the very best of the geocaching community. THANK YOU. Link to comment
+klossner Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 14019: Text Change: Bookmark instructionsChanged "todo list" to "to do list" The correct spelling is "to-do list" (with a hyphen.) Link to comment
+Drunkin Monkeys Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I hate change! So now we wait for GC.com to lag and timeout and take forever even more! they need to mirror on other servers to speed it up rather than moving everything around. Link to comment
+Team MEMILA Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 14019: Text Change: Bookmark instructionsChanged "todo list" to "to do list" The correct spelling is "to-do list" (with a hyphen.) I was just about to post the same thing. :-) Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 2734: Badges for site volunteers and admins Added new profile icon and status to help identify official volunteers and Groundspeak lackeys "Badgers? Badgers? We don't need no stinking badgers!" Link to comment
OpinioNate Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 The site is back up! Link to comment
+Maingray Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) Now with more added Web2.0 White Space ! e.g. http://www.geocaching.com/pocket/default.aspx Oh sorry, my post also got some white space added. Edited January 12, 2010 by Maingray Link to comment
+Gushoneybun Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Half my profile has disappeared. Also at the top in the quick view box after geocaches and trackable items, plus before friends and account details, it says YOURS, they are not yours they are MINE. Can we have it back to Mine so it makes sense, please. Link to comment
+Drunkin Monkeys Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I hate change! So now we wait for GC.com to lag and timeout and take forever even more! they need to mirror on other servers to speed it up rather than moving everything around. Let's see how long it runs this fast! Definetly faster, but time will tell! Link to comment
+Corey Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Way too much whitespace in the new layout. Otherwise it looks like a good re-skin, and I see that the HTML has been simplified quite a bit. Also, that is quite a long list of little touchups that will be appreciated. Link to comment
+SYOTT Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I have a feeling that it's still changing... otherwise, there's gonna be some upset people out there Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 On various pages but particularly individual log views: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LU...b3-2f5410b8e09e The advertising "falls out" of the left hand side box. Win 7 IE 8 Link to comment
+Novom Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 New skin is awfully. :-( There is too much space between rows and all statistics in profiles are destroyed. Please, add some posibilitty for giving back old skin. Link to comment
+Zop Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) Way too much whitespace in the new layout. Otherwise it looks like a good re-skin, and I see that the HTML has been simplified quite a bit. Also, that is quite a long list of little touchups that will be appreciated. I have to agree. Way too much whitespace and now the columns are wrapping dut to my low resolution 1600x1200 resolution. (read normal screen) I really feel sorry for anyone with less than perfect vision who needs to use a lower 1024x768 resolution. It does seem a bit zippier though. Anyway to trim back the right column to maximize the left on the My Profile page? It wouldn't hurt to strip the grid lines either. (edit to correct my rez to 1600x1200) Edited January 12, 2010 by Zop Link to comment
Nudecacher Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 The new format is extremely ugly, as far as pocket query work is concerned. My http://www.geocaching.com/pocket/default.aspx page has html errors in the pocket query name. I haven't figured any of the rest out, because the logic didn't even seem to allow me to add a query, it goes back to a new query add page instead of adding the one I entered. Gary aka Nudecacher Link to comment
+Zop Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Well, it sure seemed zippier on IE8 but now on Firefox, it's much slower.. Link to comment
+missionMode Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 My http://www.geocaching.com/pocket/default.aspx page has html errors in the pocket query name. Mine was fine but I decided to use the opportunity to clean up 2 old queries. One deleted fine but the other's name went funny and I cannot get rid of it. Link to comment
+GothNRoll Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) Same here, except that our complete Profile Information disappeared. The Information ist formatted in HTML and still visible in the editor, but the public profile view is empty. *edit* The Profile Information Preview works fine... strange! Edited January 12, 2010 by GothNRoll Link to comment
Nudecacher Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Ok, maybe not quite. I was able to get a new query in, and it looks ok. I still have some old query names that have the '<' missing so the "name" column displays with bad html code. I run Mozilla Firefox on a Netbook with a small screen. The scrolling and page layout are %100 worse than before. It is very difficult to get around the pages to see what's going on. I had made accomoditations on how I sized the windows to work with it before. I hope you can clean it up for people with small screens. Gary aka Nudecacher Link to comment
+niximor Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Oh, you cannot be serious with the new design... It appears more broken, than modern and cool... Tons of whitespace sucks, removal of many background colors (logs, right panel in gc.com/my/, ...) makes the information hard to be found... To summarize it, new design is awful, buggy, and unusable... Link to comment
+Zop Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Wow.. It looks like all of the tables are pooched. Please clean up the double spacing or whatever is going on. Link to comment
+entogeek Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Same here, except that our complete Profile Information disappeared. The Information ist formatted in HTML and still visible in the editor, but the public profile view is empty. Yep, I'm experiencing the same bug. HTML code is there in the editor but two matrices are not being displayed. Also have a problem with PQ names, e.g. 5/5">5/5 is displayed for a PQ named 5/5 and Ottawa">Ottawa is displayed for a PQ named Ottawa Link to comment
+avgraphics Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 OK self.. calm down - its all the name of progress. It'll take shape as people offer constructive criticism & the developers have time to deal with it all. 1. Overall - the common feedback already submitted by many about lots of white space is my first impression too. 2. Regarding the Your profile pages.. the header of the (Mine) sections, changes to (Mine), then back again to (Yours). And then when I click (Mine) under trackables - all the header links are not available. When rifling from left to right, as if navigasting thru tabbed pages, the "Trackable Items (Yours)" provides no such links. Seems like it should. e.g. Quick View | Watchlist | Geocaches (Yours) | Trackable Items (Yours) 3. Cosmetic feedback.. On the log entry page, the "Log Type" pull-down is huge; not sure if this is by design or a candidate for a little tweaking. 4. The "Your Friends" page is really ugly now. I feel that some rule on box size should force all to be the same size. It seems as though some user-defined variable is dictating the size/shape of the whole layout. 5. The "Geocoins Near Your Home Location" maps still, after all these years, seems to be non-functional (or maybe I just don't get it). That's all I have time for now.. keep up the good work! Link to comment
Nudecacher Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Ok, maybe not quite. I was able to get a new query in, and it looks ok. I still have some old query names that have the '<' missing so the "name" column displays with bad html code. I run Mozilla Firefox on a Netbook with a small screen. The scrolling and page layout are %100 worse than before. It is very difficult to get around the pages to see what's going on. I had made accomoditations on how I sized the windows to work with it before. I hope you can clean it up for people with small screens. Gary aka Nudecacher The problem in the Name field seems to be a case of attempting to nest double quote characters. The only special symbols I use in names are the dash '-' and the colon ':' characters. Gary Link to comment
+geowas Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Now a 1920x1200 screen accomodates only 50% of the Hide & Seek a Cache page. Intended? Link to comment
+JeremyR Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 We recognize that the GreaseMonkey scripts in particular serve a legitimate need in many cases, so we plan to integrate the most popular scripts wherever possible to render them obsolete (with kind regards to their creators). That sounds a touch arrogant to say the least. I'll hold my tongue until I've considered my thoughts a little more though. Minor bug report: something may be amiss with HTML Tidy - I can't seem to insert <br/> elements in TB pages at the moment. Link to comment
+missionMode Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 The problem in the Name field seems to be a case of attempting to nest double quote characters. The only special symbols I use in names are the dash '-' and the colon ':' characters. Mine was originally just the word Osborne. no other characters. Link to comment
+Corey Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 .InformationWidget{ padding:1em; /* ... */ } /* And so on */ That's a lot of whitespace! (I'm working on 1200x800) Also, this whitespace discussion sounds somewhat familiar from a previous update. the excessive whitespace I also noticed that profile image captions don't have much treatment ATM. Link to comment
+ePeterso2 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 This line is hosing the look of all of my tables in my cache descriptions: yu27-reset-fonts-grids.css, first "table" block in the file: table { border-collapse:collapse; border-spacing:0; } Please find a way to keep this CSS entry from bleeding into the cache descriptions I write! (... so that I don't have to go back and hand-hack around this in each cache description I have ...) -eP Link to comment
+Paullow Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 On Geocaching map doesnt work "Hide My Finds" and "Hide My Caches" option... Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 14019: Text Change: Bookmark instructionsChanged "todo list" to "to do list" The correct spelling is "to-do list" (with a hyphen.) Stop picking your nits in public! Link to comment
+ePeterso2 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 The attributes table on a cache's Edit Attributes page is ... well ... kinda "spacey". Link to comment
+Binrat Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Looks good, nice and crisp. Is there a way you can make a minor colour change to the highlight colours when looking at cache lists. When I look at a friends caches found I find the colour of caches I have not found a little weak and difficult to spot. Maybe my eyesight is going. Binrat Link to comment
+rockhoundbmw Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I agree that while there is a lot of white space/extra spacing on the cache pages, it also seems that the space between "short description" and "long description" was taken out, so they run together in the same paragraph. I'm using Firefox 3.5.7. Link to comment
+Swamper68 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 When going to Your Friends link, most of the friends show wrong hide counts. http://www.geocaching.com/my/myfriends.aspx Is this the right place to post bugs? Link to comment
+benh57 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) We recognize that the GreaseMonkey scripts in particular serve a legitimate need in many cases, so we plan to integrate the most popular scripts wherever possible to render them obsolete (with kind regards to their creators). That sounds a touch arrogant to say the least. I'll hold my tongue until I've considered my thoughts a little more though. Arrogant? Lol. As soon as I saw 'greasemonkey' in the title of the post, i figured GS was finally going to try to ban it. We're lucky that GS is 'allowing' users to use greasemonkey at all. Of course, they couldn't *totally* technically ban it, but they could easily ban it in the terms of use. Edited January 12, 2010 by benh57 Link to comment
+Cagey Jadiesse Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 On Geocaching map doesnt work "Hide My Finds" and "Hide My Caches" option... Same here with Firefox 3.5.7 Link to comment
+SYOTT Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 FindStats (as made by GSAK) aren't looking the same on profiles anymore either... almost like there's a hiccup in the html coding between what it was and what it is... we are not amused... Link to comment
+klossner Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 You got rid of the old print-friendly pages (append &pf=y to URL.) Link to comment
+Swamper68 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 On Geocaching map doesnt work "Hide My Finds" and "Hide My Caches" option... onclick javascript must have broke. If you zoom in or out after clicking on those options, it does change. Or click check for a cache type and then check mark back in. Link to comment
+fizzymagic Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Table formatting for tables included in cache descriptions (e.g. padding) is completely screwed up. Link to comment
+The Fat Cats Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 On Geocaching map doesnt work "Hide My Finds" and "Hide My Caches" option... onclick javascript must have broke. If you zoom in or out after clicking on those options, it does change. Or click check for a cache type and then check mark back in. My maps aren't loading at all... (Firefox 3.5.7) Link to comment
+JeremyR Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 We recognize that the GreaseMonkey scripts in particular serve a legitimate need in many cases, so we plan to integrate the most popular scripts wherever possible to render them obsolete (with kind regards to their creators). That sounds a touch arrogant to say the least. I'll hold my tongue until I've considered my thoughts a little more though. Arrogant? Lol. As soon as I saw 'greasemonkey' in the title of the post, i figured GS was finally going to try to ban it. What's arrogant is the part I've bolded. People put many hours work into GM scripts & GSP implying that they're going to take the best, integrate them into the site and leave the original author's work "obsolete" (presumably without credit or compensation) is arrogant. Now I've only put in a handful of hours over the last couple of years on GM scripts that are used by a few people here and there. I have no idea how the authors of widely used, complex and well loved scripts feel about their countless hours of work being made "obsolete". We're lucky that GS is 'allowing' users to use greasemonkey at all. Of course, they couldn't *totally* technically ban it, but they could easily ban it in the terms of use. As you said, you can't ban client-side technology. On the plus side, I'm very pleased to see GPX attributes return, thank you! Link to comment
+Swamper68 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 FindStats (as made by GSAK) aren't looking the same on profiles anymore either... almost like there's a hiccup in the html coding between what it was and what it is... we are not amused... Looks like a change in Cascading style sheets that the script was utilizing. It should be a simple fix for FindStats to add the correct css. Tables aren't bordered anymore. In most of the site. Will be a simple fix with a css tag. Can't really blame GS for that one. It is THEIR code. Not FindStats (GSAK). But I know what you mean. Link to comment
+lodgebarn Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 When I scroll through my list of finds I will randomly get Cannot Open the internet site http://.... "Operation Aborted" pop up and then Internet Explorer cannot display the web page when you click OK. The data deso seem to be displayed OK. This is IE7. I like the speed up but that extra scrolling is awful. Link to comment
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