daveindeal Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) Look out Kent here i come, I have been talking to the CO of This Cache in USA and he has agreed for me to produce a clone here in the UK. The original cache has 3,000 micros im planning on between 4,000 - 6,000 with only one containing the key to get to the locked logbook. The average find time for the log is 1Hr + The only difference is that he used a 55 Gal drum and im planning on using one of these with the entire top cut off: Today I started to prepare for the cache and visitied 3 well known high street photo shops withing 5 miles of my home and collect 350(ish) 35mm film canisters/miros. i have 6 more photo shops with 10-15 miles of here to visit and also collect some as well as a contact from the CO to see if they have the same production company this side of the pond. I have also written to some of the well known photo companys to see if they can donate or give me a supplyers contact for the canisters. Edited December 31, 2009 by daveindeal Quote Link to comment
+Mad H@ter Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Sorry to burst your bubble, but I have no problems with, and enjoy micros as much as any other cache when placed in a suitable location. But as for this idea, well as far as I am concerned life is way to short to be searching 1000s of 35mm cases for a log book; I would give it a very wide berth. I'm certain that someone would enjoy it though, and they are welcolm to it. Quote Link to comment
+keehotee Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Ditto 1000 film canisters for one smiley?? Sounds like caching purgatory... Quote Link to comment
+uk89camaro Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) I often research ideas for new caches and found (more often than not) that I'm not the first, and therefore I cannot replicate it. I suggest you do the same. Edited December 31, 2009 by uk89camaro Quote Link to comment
+Birdman-of-liskatraz Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 I've found one that's similar, but lots smaller.... Do it! It's evil, but do it anyway! Quote Link to comment
GerritS Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I've found one that's similar, but lots smaller.... Do it! It's evil, but do it anyway! I hate Micro's and have heard of this idea before... It is truley evil, but I like it... I just hope every visitor who finds it and DNF's logs it then you have to check it yourself from time to time... Or is it against the rules as a finder to stick a new log in the first Micro you find, you found you logged then you can clame FTF as well? Could be a cache setter worst nightmare So go for it...... Quote Link to comment
Neath Worthies Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Oh joy! Thank god we live a long way away from Kent. Quote Link to comment
+little-miss-naughty Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 i hate micros but if im bored i might come and give it ago maby when its walmer though lol. have you tryed boots they always seem to be happy to give away bags of the things. lmn Quote Link to comment
+drdick&vick Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) Found a smaller version 'Ammo box full of micros all with paper in them but only ONE log book' well it was full to start with but so many finders just decided to help themselves to the micros that when we found it there was only 20 or so left and there had been 4 log books added. It wasn't to bad as it was the last box in a circular series that involved a nice walk around some woods. Edited January 1, 2010 by DrDick&Vick Quote Link to comment
+uk89camaro Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Contrary to popular belief, micro's haven't quite taken over the world...... http://www.icache.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment
+Gralorn Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Seen a couple of these, although not so many cannisters. One by the Mountain Girls in Somerset/North Devon, about twenty in a large empty plastic oil bottle so getting them out was just as much a trial as finding the one with the co-ords and another by the Lydford Locators up near the Cotswold Water Parks area, a large plastic cache box which when opened had been completely filled in rows standing up with cannisters, again one holding the co-ords required. A thousand ? perhaps would not have the time or inclination, would also have to be a Muggle free location. Good luck though, its something new for Kent no doubt. Quote Link to comment
+HouseOfDragons Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I look forward to it being the first ever cache on my "ignore" list. Quote Link to comment
+keehotee Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Contrary to popular belief, micro's haven't quite taken over the world...... http://www.icache.co.uk/ Hadn't seen that site before - thanks But how can there be 201 virtuals by type, and only 186 virtuals by size? Quote Link to comment
Deceangi Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Once again I'd like to publicly thank Tim-The Web Rat for taking on this challenge. And add that this is a Groundspeak approved and supported project, for which I'd like to thank Bryan Roth. Deci Quote Link to comment
daveindeal Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 Or is it against the rules as a finder to stick a new log in the first Micro you find, you found you logged then you can clame FTF as well? there had been 4 log books added. only one containing the key to get to the locked logbook I had thought of this already and my version will have a locked box !! containing the log and any swaps, coins insentives this will also make maintenance easier you always get a spare key, with every lock Quote Link to comment
+Happy Humphrey Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) Good luck with the cache! I've logged a similar one, but it only had about 50 micros in it. Can't say I like this type of hide particularly so I won't be going out of my way for it (I'll be in Kent this month, yet again), but I suppose it's OK if it's a fine day and the cache is in a nice spot with somewhere to sit down for a while. Edited January 1, 2010 by Happy Humphrey Quote Link to comment
norsch Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Anything to take 35mm film canisters out of circulation. Quote Link to comment
+keehotee Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Anything to take 35mm film canisters out of circulation. There's a thought - if we all club together can you make it a TEU instead Quote Link to comment
Team Noodles Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I look forward to it being the first ever cache on my "ignore" list. marry me please Quote Link to comment
+HouseOfDragons Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I look forward to it being the first ever cache on my "ignore" list. marry me please hehehe. Won't your wife have something to say about that? Quote Link to comment
+37251 Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Seen a couple of these, although not so many cannisters. One by the Mountain Girls in Somerset/North Devon, about twenty in a large empty plastic oil bottle so getting them out was just as much a trial as finding the one with the co-ords and another by the Lydford Locators up near the Cotswold Water Parks area, a large plastic cache box which when opened had been completely filled in rows standing up with cannisters, again one holding the co-ords required. A thousand ? perhaps would not have the time or inclination, would also have to be a Muggle free location. Good luck though, its something new for Kent no doubt. Cool, I'll have to do that cache. Sounds like brilliant fun. And the OP's cache in Kent when it gets published. I do like a challenge occasionally... Quote Link to comment
+mr007s Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 SWEET! Grouping them together like that makes it so much easier to destroy them Quote Link to comment
+NickandAliandEliza Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I look forward to it being the first ever cache on my "ignore" list. Harsh, but true. This is what I'll probably do. But each to his own. It will be fun for some and the logs might make entertaining reading. Quote Link to comment
+The Blorenges Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) Could be worse...... a 6 stage multi, each stage having 1000 micros with 14 of them each containing one digit of the coords for the next stage (but you have to guess the order the numbers should be in)...etc ... etc.... to the final stage where you eventually find the key Chris (MrB) Edited to add.... what have I just suggested! Edited January 1, 2010 by The Blorenges Quote Link to comment
+Jonovich Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Metal detector on standby J Quote Link to comment
+Birdman-of-liskatraz Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Surely a 14,000 part multi would be more fun... Quote Link to comment
+MBFace Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Metal detector on standby That's assuming all the others are empty ... Quote Link to comment
Deceangi Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Surely a 14,000 part multi would be more fun... Not if your the Reviewer Deci Quote Link to comment
+Birdman-of-liskatraz Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Surely a 14,000 part multi would be more fun... Not if your the Reviewer Deci *Ponders* Quote Link to comment
+Birdman-of-liskatraz Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Surely a 14,000 part multi would be more fun... Not if your the Reviewer Deci *Ponders* Quote Link to comment
norsch Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Look out Kent here i come, I have been talking to the CO of This Cache in USA and he has agreed for me to produce a clone here in the UK. The original cache has 3,000 micros im planning on between 4,000 - 6,000 with only one containing the key to get to the locked logbook. The average find time for the log is 1Hr + The only difference is that he used a 55 Gal drum and im planning on using one of these with the entire top cut off: Today I started to prepare for the cache and visitied 3 well known high street photo shops withing 5 miles of my home and collect 350(ish) 35mm film canisters/miros. i have 6 more photo shops with 10-15 miles of here to visit and also collect some as well as a contact from the CO to see if they have the same production company this side of the pond. I have also written to some of the well known photo companys to see if they can donate or give me a supplyers contact for the canisters. Please wait until 5th November to hide this cache. Quote Link to comment
+Amberel Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 (edited) this will also make maintenance easier you always get a spare key, with every lock But surely if you're doing cache maintenance you have to check the key is still there ? But on a more serious note, I did one of these as the start of a multi, I guess there were about 50 film cans and I found the co-ords in almost the last one. By the time I had finished my fingers and thumbs were very sore from prising off the lids. Rgds, Andy Edited January 2, 2010 by Amberel Quote Link to comment
team tisri Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Just out of interest, what would stop one annoyed cacher from tying the key to a piece of string and taping it to the inside of the box, to save future finders from having to go through so many film pots? Honestly, I can see a lot of people either not bothering and burying the cache listing with DNFs and notes saying they just couldn't be bothered with it, or taking the film pots away, or subverting your intentions some other way. If it's a locked box it would be very tempting to save the next cacher the bother of a largely pointless search by just leaving the box unlocked. Quote Link to comment
+NickandAliandEliza Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Just out of interest, what would stop one annoyed cacher from tying the key to a piece of string and taping it to the inside of the box, to save future finders from having to go through so many film pots? Honestly, I can see a lot of people either not bothering and burying the cache listing with DNFs and notes saying they just couldn't be bothered with it, or taking the film pots away, or subverting your intentions some other way. If it's a locked box it would be very tempting to save the next cacher the bother of a largely pointless search by just leaving the box unlocked. Although this is probably going to be the first ever cache to go onto my ignore list, I think it's pretty lame if people start ruining it for those that want to do it. Anyone who gets so annoyed by this that they try to sabotage it is just pathetic. I think the best caches are properly hidden ammo boxes. But like I say - each to his own. That's what the ignore list is for. If the cache is within the guidelines set by GC.com - then who am I to say it's wrong? Quote Link to comment
+Unobtainium Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Just out of interest, what would stop one annoyed cacher from tying the key to a piece of string and taping it to the inside of the box, to save future finders from having to go through so many film pots? Honestly, I can see a lot of people either not bothering and burying the cache listing with DNFs and notes saying they just couldn't be bothered with it, or taking the film pots away, or subverting your intentions some other way. If it's a locked box it would be very tempting to save the next cacher the bother of a largely pointless search by just leaving the box unlocked. Although this is probably going to be the first ever cache to go onto my ignore list, I think it's pretty lame if people start ruining it for those that want to do it. Anyone who gets so annoyed by this that they try to sabotage it is just pathetic. Here Here Quote Link to comment
daveindeal Posted January 2, 2010 Author Share Posted January 2, 2010 Just out of interest, what would stop one annoyed cacher from tying the key to a piece of string and taping it to the inside of the box, to save future finders from having to go through so many film pots? If it's a locked box it would be very tempting to save the next cacher the bother of a largely pointless search by just leaving the box unlocked. The location i had chose was my shed (8 feet from my house) this way there will be no muggle intervention, also its in the dry, warm. Also on the door to the shed is a sensor to let me know if someone enters, therfor i can make you a cup of tea and have a chat while you attempt it. This will also mean that after every attemp, i can "check on it" or taking the film pots away The whole point of so may film pots is that you are allowed to take a few away and spawn your own cache with it, these will then be bookmarked as spawned caches from this one. At the end of the year the furthest spawned cache will win a prize Quote Link to comment
+HouseOfDragons Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 The spawning idea I like. Spending over an hour searching through 4000 film cannisters to sign the log? Naaa. Quote Link to comment
+third-degree-witch Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 I fear theres gonna be a ill conceived 'spray' of micros placed in a hurry Quote Link to comment
+Munkeh Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 email me your address I'll arrange find someone to put a micro on your doorsep since you have a love for them, it is ok if the coords are 50m from your shed? Quote Link to comment
+HazelS Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 (edited) At the end of the year the furthest spawned cache will win a prize I must remember that when I come down to Dover for Little Miss Naughty's event later in the year.... Although I don't fancy doing the cache, not my cup of tea to be honest. Edited January 2, 2010 by HazelS Quote Link to comment
team tisri Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 (edited) Just out of interest, what would stop one annoyed cacher from tying the key to a piece of string and taping it to the inside of the box, to save future finders from having to go through so many film pots? Honestly, I can see a lot of people either not bothering and burying the cache listing with DNFs and notes saying they just couldn't be bothered with it, or taking the film pots away, or subverting your intentions some other way. If it's a locked box it would be very tempting to save the next cacher the bother of a largely pointless search by just leaving the box unlocked. Although this is probably going to be the first ever cache to go onto my ignore list, I think it's pretty lame if people start ruining it for those that want to do it. Anyone who gets so annoyed by this that they try to sabotage it is just pathetic. I think the best caches are properly hidden ammo boxes. But like I say - each to his own. That's what the ignore list is for. If the cache is within the guidelines set by GC.com - then who am I to say it's wrong? Personally I'd ignore it rather than vandalise it. But the whole point of geocaching (to me at least) is to have some fun. I for one can't see any additional fun to be had in searching through 100 film pots in the same box than in searching through 10. When the numbers go to several thousand the whole thing seems like an exercise in futility. I'm all for people choosing the caches they're most likely to enjoy, I just don't see any possible way to get any enjoyment out of opening thousands of film pots in rapid succession. But to each their own I guess. If it was anywhere near me I'd be using the ignore function as well. If it's in the owner's shed, why not just fill the entire shed with hundreds of thousands of film pots and hide a key in one of them? Edited January 2, 2010 by team tisri Quote Link to comment
+martlakes Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Interesting! Is your shed a nice location? I'd be happy to have a less inspiring location for a unique and challenging cache hide, and meeting a friendly fellow cacher for a brew can be fun. A good cache is always a mix of ingredients but at least one aspect needs to be fun/good. So, assuming your shed is, well, a shed, the cache hide had better be a good 'un. Is this volume idea 'clever' 'cunning' 'sneaky' or some other adjective other than 'just a long slog'? Is it going to be fun to stand and watch me for 5.5 hrs (4000 pots x 5 secs) while I find the key? Am I going to want to snap lids on and off for 5.5 hrs? Think I'm going to need more than just a brew and your conversation had better be jolly sparkling! I think the 'size' of your plan is impressive, but the concept needs another element to lift it from sheer boring tedium to a clever and sneaky (= memorable and enjoyable) cache. Perhaps simplest way is to include some sort of puzzle to identify which pot is the one. Magnet on a string and go 'fishing' in your 'pond of micros' might be a simple thing to do. No doubt there are several other ways of making it 'fun' and not just plain boring! So, you need to add another dash of creativity to make the plan work IMHO. Coming through the door and finding a cubic metre of micros is quite unique and the stuff of some people's nightmares! So worth doing just for that but it needs a smart way round the tedium! Quote Link to comment
+HouseOfDragons Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 If it's in the owner's shed, why not just fill the entire shed with hundreds of thousands of film pots and hide a key in one of them? Cacher dies after being crushed to death by an avalanche of film cannisters! A participant in "geocaching" was crushed to death yesterday when he opened a shed door in search of treasure, only to be greeted by a falling wall of 35mm film cannisters. His caching partner said "It was a complete shock. We knew there were a few but weren't expecting so many. I carried on and found the one with the key so I could sign the log. Then I called an ambulance but it was too late..." Quote Link to comment
team tisri Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 If it's in the owner's shed, why not just fill the entire shed with hundreds of thousands of film pots and hide a key in one of them? Cacher dies after being crushed to death by an avalanche of film cannisters! A participant in "geocaching" was crushed to death yesterday when he opened a shed door in search of treasure, only to be greeted by a falling wall of 35mm film cannisters. His caching partner said "It was a complete shock. We knew there were a few but weren't expecting so many. I carried on and found the one with the key so I could sign the log. Then I called an ambulance but it was too late..." Ah, that's where you miss the point. Cachers are a resourceful lot, so it would make sense to call the ambulance first. Then you'd have at least two more pairs of hands to open the infernal film pots, as well as first aid on hand to put the ends of your fingers and thumbs back together again.... Quote Link to comment
+uberdude Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Cant you just shake them if it dont rattle then its not got a key in? Quote Link to comment
+The Blorenges Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Cant you just shake them if it dont rattle then its not got a key in? Ahhhh, but he could get around that by putting a nano in each one so they all sound the same. MrsB Quote Link to comment
+MBFace Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Cant you just shake them if it dont rattle then its not got a key in? Ahhhh, but he could get around that by putting a nano in each one so they all sound the same. MrsB As I said before: Metal detector on standby That's assuming all the others are empty ... We've done one of these before (with a sensible number of film canisters) and the owner made sure that they all sounded the same when shaken. Quote Link to comment
+MooToo Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Having attempted most of D in D's caches,there will probably be several errors that need ironing out and thats if he puts the cache coords on the page ,unlike one of his other live caches.....Where he's putting this new cache, he already has a live cache, reading his description on the forum ,so an archive and at least an hour of our lives after several evenings spent wasting time on mission impossible ill conceived caches, no thanks mate please accept some advise and try finding a few more before wasting our fuel and time.....Sorry if a bit harsh,but you have ignored advice and offers of help from ourselves and others included...so in answer to your post we wont be loving it!!!!! MooToo Quote Link to comment
+HazelS Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Did I read that right?? It'll be in his garden shed??? No way would I think it's ok to go rummaging in someone's shed - no way, not ever. It's bad enough looking over someone's wall, but I'd NEVER go into someone's shed in the name of caching.... Quote Link to comment
+Birdman-of-liskatraz Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Did I read that right?? It'll be in his garden shed??? No way would I think it's ok to go rummaging in someone's shed - no way, not ever. It's bad enough looking over someone's wall, but I'd NEVER go into someone's shed in the name of caching.... I've done a cache or three in cachers gardens - I'd do a cache in a shed as long as it was obviously clear that that is where the cache was. Quote Link to comment
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