+lavender5215 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Im thinking about placing a 55 gallon drum cache. Is it good? Is it bad? Is it legal? Is it possible? Im looking for some opinions. Quote Link to comment
+Scubasonic Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Im thinking about placing a 55 gallon drum cache. Is it good? Is it bad? Is it legal? Is it possible? Im looking for some opinions. I think it is a great idea as long as you have the right spot that is muggle free, just hard to hide that big of a cache...... but will hold lots of SWAG you will only have to clean it out of swag every year or so.......... so that folks can find the log book.. Scubasonic Quote Link to comment
Motorcycle_Mama Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Might be okay providing 1) the drum didn't originally contain food substances, 2) the drum didn't originally contain dangerous chemicals, 3) the drum didn't originally contain petroleum products, 4) you can find a place to "hide" it that doesn't require digging. Quote Link to comment
jholly Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 I think it is a great idea as long as you have the right spot that is muggle free, just hard to hide that big of a cache...... but will hold lots of SWAG you will only have to clean it out of swag every year or so.......... so that folks can find the log book.. Scubasonic Actually if you fill it with SWAG by the end of the year all that will be left will be the logbook. Jim Quote Link to comment
+lavender5215 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 Might be okay providing 1) the drum didn't originally contain food substances, 2) the drum didn't originally contain dangerous chemicals, 3) the drum didn't originally contain petroleum products, 4) you can find a place to "hide" it that doesn't require digging. Drums can be purchased completely clean and unused or maybe I could look into one of those drums they use to hold paper scraps at paper factories or something similiar. Where it would go is on my aunts property if she lets me and theres no muggles to worry about, I might cammo it for the fun of the game though. Quote Link to comment
+9Key Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Don't the lids require a screw driver to remove? That might be an issue. Quote Link to comment
+DavidMac Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Drums can be purchased completely clean and unused or maybe I could look into one of those drums they use to hold paper scraps at paper factories or something similiar. Yep, we bought a clean one once for food. Just be sure to check whether the lid can be opened and easily resealed tightly enough that water doesn't leak in. The lids have different types of closures and some of them require a wrench to close properly. Quote Link to comment
+bafl01 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 there is a cache near us that is a huge bucket that they keep in there front yard, they call it "no mines the biggest". they have the exact opposite problem with swag. They actually ahve to remove some every now and again. Quote Link to comment
+tomfuller & Quill Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Might be okay providing 1) the drum didn't originally contain food substances, 2) the drum didn't originally contain dangerous chemicals, 3) the drum didn't originally contain petroleum products, 4) you can find a place to "hide" it that doesn't require digging. Drums can be purchased completely clean and unused or maybe I could look into one of those drums they use to hold paper scraps at paper factories or something similiar. Where it would go is on my aunts property if she lets me and theres no muggles to worry about, I might cammo it for the fun of the game though. I had a DNF on one of these last winter. It was under 20+" of snow. It is in a lava field high in the Cascades. Another important consideration is the seal on the lid and whether finders will replace it properly to keep it dry inside. Put a weep hole in the lowest point so that condensation and any water that leaks in will leak out. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Fine if you can find a place to hide it. Quote Link to comment
+Team Cotati Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Im thinking about placing a 55 gallon drum cache. Is it good? Is it bad? Is it legal? Is it possible? Im looking for some opinions. Yes, no, yes, yes. Let us know the GC# when it gets published, will you? Quote Link to comment
+EscapeFromFlatland Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 there is a cache near us that is a huge bucket that they keep in there front yard, they call it "no mines the biggest". they have the exact opposite problem with swag. They actually ahve to remove some every now and again. I found that one! The lid was kept on with chains and a combo-lock. Combo was on the cache page. Had buckets screwed in on the inside to keep the logbook and trackables within reach. Now, as for this cache with a 55gal drum... let's make it a challenge: Quote Link to comment
+lavender5215 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 there is a cache near us that is a huge bucket that they keep in there front yard, they call it "no mines the biggest". they have the exact opposite problem with swag. They actually ahve to remove some every now and again. I found that one! The lid was kept on with chains and a combo-lock. Combo was on the cache page. Had buckets screwed in on the inside to keep the logbook and trackables within reach. Now, as for this cache with a 55gal drum... let's make it a challenge: ha ha ha ha ha ha..............which one is it in!!!!!! Quote Link to comment
+lavender5215 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 (edited) Forget evil micro........... Evil Large........ mu wha ha ha ha! EEEExcellent!!! Edited December 30, 2009 by lavender5215 Quote Link to comment
+lavender5215 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 Hmmmm.... Tote Bin..... Padlock...... chains.........sounds like a good idea to me. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 (edited) Might be okay providing 1) the drum didn't originally contain food substances, 2) the drum didn't originally contain dangerous chemicals, 3) the drum didn't originally contain petroleum products, 4) you can find a place to "hide" it that doesn't require digging. Re: #1... are you afraid a racoon might attack the 55 gallon drum? LOL! OK, yeah, a bear might be able to roll it away from the posted coordinates, but we're not exactly talking peanut butter jar here (of which I have probably found at least 500 of, almost all in good condition). Your next two points, while excellent, are not guidelines according to this website's listing criteria, are they? Edited December 30, 2009 by knowschad Quote Link to comment
+brslk Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 I would kill to find a 55 gallon drum full of geocaching goodness! The largest in my area is a 5 gallon pail that I have yet to find (do to terrain issues with my disability ) I do intend to find a better path to it! Quote Link to comment
+holazola Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 (edited) Well, almost 55 gallons: Holy Macro! (check out the logs & gallery) Edited December 30, 2009 by holazola Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 I think it is a great idea as long as you have the right spot that is muggle free, just hard to hide that big of a cache...... but will hold lots of SWAG you will only have to clean it out of swag every year or so.......... so that folks can find the log book.. Scubasonic Actually if you fill it with SWAG by the end of the year all that will be left will be the logbook. Jim And even if you put a 100 page College Ruled loose leaf log book in it, no one will ever do anything but just scribble their username and date in it as if it was a micro, and the logbook will last like 1,000 years (theoretically, of course). Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Im thinking about placing a 55 gallon drum cache. Is it good? Is it bad? Is it legal? Is it possible? Im looking for some opinions. Great idea! Can you make a giant logbook for it? Quote Link to comment
Motorcycle_Mama Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Might be okay providing 1) the drum didn't originally contain food substances, 2) the drum didn't originally contain dangerous chemicals, 3) the drum didn't originally contain petroleum products, 4) you can find a place to "hide" it that doesn't require digging. Re: #1... are you afraid a racoon might attack the 55 gallon drum? LOL! OK, yeah, a bear might be able to roll it away from the posted coordinates, but we're not exactly talking peanut butter jar here (of which I have probably found at least 500 of, almost all in good condition). Your next two points, while excellent, are not guidelines according to this website's listing criteria, are they? No, but they would make the container potentially unsafe for users to access it. And the OP asked if it was a good idea. Quote Link to comment
+palmetto Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Some land managers have a maximum size for cache containers. I don't know if that's true in your area, or even you were considering public lands. It would block using a container of this size in Florida's State Forests, and some other public lands here as well. Quote Link to comment
+Klatch Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Some land managers have a maximum size for cache containers. I don't know if that's true in your area, or even you were considering public lands. It would block using a container of this size in Florida's State Forests, and some other public lands here as well. Where it would go is on my aunts property if she lets me and theres no muggles to worry about, I might cammo it for the fun of the game though. Quote Link to comment
+EscapeFromFlatland Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Might be okay providing 1) the drum didn't originally contain food substances, 2) the drum didn't originally contain dangerous chemicals, 3) the drum didn't originally contain petroleum products, 4) you can find a place to "hide" it that doesn't require digging. Re: #1... are you afraid a racoon might attack the 55 gallon drum? LOL! OK, yeah, a bear might be able to roll it away from the posted coordinates, but we're not exactly talking peanut butter jar here (of which I have probably found at least 500 of, almost all in good condition). "Did Not Find. I did, however, see a bear with his head stuck in a large food tub" Quote Link to comment
+Wooden Cyclist Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 GCK8ZV BIG Orange Travel Bug Convention Center has been around for several years. Be sure to check out the photo gallery on the cache page. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Might be okay providing 1) the drum didn't originally contain food substances, 2) the drum didn't originally contain dangerous chemicals, 3) the drum didn't originally contain petroleum products, 4) you can find a place to "hide" it that doesn't require digging. Re: #1... are you afraid a racoon might attack the 55 gallon drum? LOL! OK, yeah, a bear might be able to roll it away from the posted coordinates, but we're not exactly talking peanut butter jar here (of which I have probably found at least 500 of, almost all in good condition). Your next two points, while excellent, are not guidelines according to this website's listing criteria, are they? No, but they would make the container potentially unsafe for users to access it. And the OP asked if it was a good idea. I disagree. Either of those would be perfectly fine, provided the container was properly cleaned. I think that we can assume that no one is going to hide a cache using a gunky oil drum. Quote Link to comment
+lavender5215 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 Some land managers have a maximum size for cache containers. I don't know if that's true in your area, or even you were considering public lands. It would block using a container of this size in Florida's State Forests, and some other public lands here as well. It will most likely be on a relatives land which she owns. Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Well, almost 55 gallons: Holy Macro! (check out the logs & gallery) I have found a similar container used as a cache. The lid is screw on and fairly water-tight. If you can find one of these, I'd recommend it over the typical metal drum. It was also pretty well hidden. I didn't see it until I was about seven feet away. Quote Link to comment
+lavender5215 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 Might be okay providing 1) the drum didn't originally contain food substances, 2) the drum didn't originally contain dangerous chemicals, 3) the drum didn't originally contain petroleum products, 4) you can find a place to "hide" it that doesn't require digging. Re: #1... are you afraid a racoon might attack the 55 gallon drum? LOL! OK, yeah, a bear might be able to roll it away from the posted coordinates, but we're not exactly talking peanut butter jar here (of which I have probably found at least 500 of, almost all in good condition). Your next two points, while excellent, are not guidelines according to this website's listing criteria, are they? No, but they would make the container potentially unsafe for users to access it. And the OP asked if it was a good idea. I disagree. Either of those would be perfectly fine, provided the container was properly cleaned. I think that we can assume that no one is going to hide a cache using a gunky oil drum. No gunky oil drums or toxic waste I would never do that. I was thinking more on the lines of old 55 gallons that stored dry stuff like paper scraps or wood or saw dust. it may not even end up being a 55 gallon drum in particular, just something really large. Quote Link to comment
+hukilaulau Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Im thinking about placing a 55 gallon drum cache. Is it good? Is it bad? Is it legal? Is it possible? Im looking for some opinions. I think it's a cool idea! Please let us know if you do it. It's close enough that I would make a trip up there to find it! Quote Link to comment
+AZ Cache Family Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Forget evil micro........... Evil Large........ mu wha ha ha ha! If you are going to put it like that... I wanna see the lamp skirt this one goes under! Would be kinda funny to build a large scale version of a PLC... Quote Link to comment
GermanSailor Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Im thinking about placing a 55 gallon drum cache. Is it good? Is it bad? Is it legal? Is it possible? Im looking for some opinions. It's a good idea. Large caches are very seldom. In Germany most of the geocaches listed as large aren't even close to 5 gallons. Legal? That should have to do nothing with the size. Either you have the permission or not. Doesn't make a difference if it is a micro or a large. Do it! GermanSailor Quote Link to comment
+cheech gang Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Von Sweinigus is in BIG Trouble Now Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Might be okay providing 1) the drum didn't originally contain food substances, 2) the drum didn't originally contain dangerous chemicals, 3) the drum didn't originally contain petroleum products, 4) you can find a place to "hide" it that doesn't require digging. Re: #1... are you afraid a racoon might attack the 55 gallon drum? LOL! OK, yeah, a bear might be able to roll it away from the posted coordinates, but we're not exactly talking peanut butter jar here (of which I have probably found at least 500 of, almost all in good condition). Your next two points, while excellent, are not guidelines according to this website's listing criteria, are they? No, but they would make the container potentially unsafe for users to access it. And the OP asked if it was a good idea. And if it was "legal". That's the part that I was focused on. Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 (edited) Von Sweinigus is in BIG Trouble Now http://img.geocaching.com/cache/59444935-3...8a24d00fcd3.jpg Where would a person look for these containers? They would be very useful around the castle. Edited December 30, 2009 by Castle Mischief Quote Link to comment
+cachensfun Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Im thinking about placing a 55 gallon drum cache. Is it good? Is it bad? Is it legal? Is it possible? Im looking for some opinions. I think it is a great idea as long as you have the right spot that is muggle free, just hard to hide that big of a cache...... but will hold lots of SWAG you will only have to clean it out of swag every year or so.......... so that folks can find the log book.. Scubasonic Put the logbook in a ziplock bag and tape/glue it to the lid. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 I would kill to find a 55 gallon drum full of geocaching goodness! I would not count on that part. I have a cache that is a 30 gallon storage container. When I put it out, I filled it with large swag... a picture puzzle, a large plastic robot, all kinds of geocaching goodness like that. Last time I checked, it looked pretty lonesome and practically empty. Quote Link to comment
+cachensfun Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 GCK8ZV BIG Orange Travel Bug Convention Center has been around for several years. Be sure to check out the photo gallery on the cache page. Cool!! We will have to tell Michigan Cacheman about this cache. I see a trip south next spring here. Quote Link to comment
+bittsen Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 I would kill to find a 55 gallon drum full of geocaching goodness! I would not count on that part. I have a cache that is a 30 gallon storage container. When I put it out, I filled it with large swag... a picture puzzle, a large plastic robot, all kinds of geocaching goodness like that. Last time I checked, it looked pretty lonesome and practically empty. Maybe that's just an issue in Mn? Quote Link to comment
daveindeal Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Well, almost 55 gallons: Holy Macro! (check out the logs & gallery) Look out South East UK, i have been talking to the CO and have been given a contact for the supplies used for this. i have also visitied 3 well known high street photo shops withing 5 miles of my chosen GZ and today managed to collect 350(ish) 35mm film canisters/miros. i have 6 more photo shops with 10-15 miles of GZ to visit and also collect some as well as the contact from the CO. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 I would kill to find a 55 gallon drum full of geocaching goodness! I would not count on that part. I have a cache that is a 30 gallon storage container. When I put it out, I filled it with large swag... a picture puzzle, a large plastic robot, all kinds of geocaching goodness like that. Last time I checked, it looked pretty lonesome and practically empty. Maybe that's just an issue in Mn? Its possible, I suppose, but I doubt it. You''ve heard of "Minnesota Nice", haven't you? Quote Link to comment
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