+mountainman38 Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 No, no, no....that's a Rappelling Cache. This is a Rock Climbing Cache You're right, there's a big difference between "recreational" rappelling and rock climbing. Here is a good example of a real rock climbing cache that can't be done by simply rappelling down to it. As wimseyguy correctly points out the rules for logging a cache find on Geocaching.com and what's normal for claiming an ascent of a rock climb are different. Thanks to this post, I got intrigued by the cache MtnGoat50 linked to. Since it's in my neck of the woods, I set my sights on it, and this last weekend I was able to finally put my name in the log book! Quote Link to comment
+roziecakes Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 What more of a control freak could one be than to have special, personal, guidelines placed to assure that a signature on the log sheet was actually signed by the person whose signature appears on the cache log? What next, DNA testng on logsheets that must be signed in blood? I can't see the necessity to be this petty. Really, it's an UNIMPORTANT game. +1 That being said, it sounds like a really fun idea! I wish I could rock climb... I did climb the first tree I've climbed since childhood the other day though. Quote Link to comment
+mountainman38 Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 What more of a control freak could one be than to have special, personal, guidelines placed to assure that a signature on the log sheet was actually signed by the person whose signature appears on the cache log? What next, DNA testng on logsheets that must be signed in blood? I can't see the necessity to be this petty. Really, it's an UNIMPORTANT game. +1 That being said, it sounds like a really fun idea! I wish I could rock climb... I did climb the first tree I've climbed since childhood the other day though. Baby steps, sister, baby steps. Next thing you know, you'll be clinging to a rock face high above the ground wondering why on earth you ever wanted to climb! Quote Link to comment
+roziecakes Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Next thing you know, you'll be clinging to a rock face high above the ground wondering why on earth you ever wanted to climb! I sure hope so!! Quote Link to comment
+zircon101 Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 What do you plan to say to the lawyer hired by the mother who's son was killed at your cache site ? Quote Link to comment
+mountainman38 Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 What do you plan to say to the lawyer hired by the mother who's son was killed at your cache site ? Who exactly is this directed at? Quote Link to comment
+mountainman38 Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 (edited) ....... Edited September 14, 2010 by mountainman38 Quote Link to comment
+Scubasonic Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 We find a location that is focused on rock climbing and hide a 5 star cache there, do you think there would be a problem with getting the cache listing approved? Permission from property owner granted with provided phone number. Climbing waivers at the beginning of trailhead to cache. All special equipment listed. The cache is a 80 foot rappel to cache hide or a 40 foot ascent once you hook the ropes in. Cache is secured to rock wall "40" plus feet above the ground. Currently there is a problem with the cache reviewer and logging the actual cache. They are concerned with log deletions for cachers who sit at the bottom of the cliff and watch and log the find without attempting getting to the cache location. Listing says you must reach and sign the log yourself to get a find. Any input? I am open to suggestions. When I looked at your profile it says you are currently banned, so can you place a cache when you are banned? SS Quote Link to comment
+Scubasonic Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 What do you plan to say to the lawyer hired by the mother who's son was killed at your cache site ? I would say you should have read the description and looked at the Diff & Terr rating. SS Quote Link to comment
+mountainman38 Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 We find a location that is focused on rock climbing and hide a 5 star cache there, do you think there would be a problem with getting the cache listing approved? Permission from property owner granted with provided phone number. Climbing waivers at the beginning of trailhead to cache. All special equipment listed. The cache is a 80 foot rappel to cache hide or a 40 foot ascent once you hook the ropes in. Cache is secured to rock wall "40" plus feet above the ground. Currently there is a problem with the cache reviewer and logging the actual cache. They are concerned with log deletions for cachers who sit at the bottom of the cliff and watch and log the find without attempting getting to the cache location. Listing says you must reach and sign the log yourself to get a find. Any input? I am open to suggestions. When I looked at your profile it says you are currently banned, so can you place a cache when you are banned? SS You realize this post was from last December, right? I just brought the thread up because of something MtnGoat50 (a local cacher) brought up. On Cav Scouts page there is a note that says he can do maintenance as needed until his ban is lifted, so I assume the ban isn't permanent. Looks like he hasn't posted since February, so who knows what the deal is. Quote Link to comment
+Ant89 Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...b9-f18c454fcf19 Quote Link to comment
+Konnarock Kid & Marge Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 (edited) We find a location that is focused on rock climbing and hide a 5 star cache there, do you think there would be a problem with getting the cache listing approved? Permission from property owner granted with provided phone number. Climbing waivers at the beginning of trailhead to cache. All special equipment listed. The cache is a 80 foot rappel to cache hide or a 40 foot ascent once you hook the ropes in. Cache is secured to rock wall "40" plus feet above the ground. Currently there is a problem with the cache reviewer and logging the actual cache. They are concerned with log deletions for cachers who sit at the bottom of the cliff and watch and log the find without attempting getting to the cache location. Listing says you must reach and sign the log yourself to get a find. Any input? I am open to suggestions. When I looked at your profile it says you are currently banned, so can you place a cache when you are banned? SS You realize this post was from last December, right? I just brought the thread up because of something MtnGoat50 (a local cacher) brought up. On Cav Scouts page there is a note that says he can do maintenance as needed until his ban is lifted, so I assume the ban isn't permanent. Looks like he hasn't posted since February, so who knows what the deal is. For the record, it is correct that CS is temporarily banned, something I really take issue with, but that is another story. (Happy to go into detail outside of this forum so please don't start a discussion regarding the ban here!.) The main point I wish to make is I am assured by him and others that his caches are currently being maintained, especially those in Muir Valley. Thanks folks, go and enjoy! Edited September 14, 2010 by Konnarock Kid & Marge Quote Link to comment
+Konnarock Kid & Marge Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 We find a location that is focused on rock climbing and hide a 5 star cache there, do you think there would be a problem with getting the cache listing approved? Permission from property owner granted with provided phone number. Climbing waivers at the beginning of trailhead to cache. All special equipment listed. The cache is a 80 foot rappel to cache hide or a 40 foot ascent once you hook the ropes in. Cache is secured to rock wall "40" plus feet above the ground. Currently there is a problem with the cache reviewer and logging the actual cache. They are concerned with log deletions for cachers who sit at the bottom of the cliff and watch and log the find without attempting getting to the cache location. Listing says you must reach and sign the log yourself to get a find. Any input? I am open to suggestions. When I looked at your profile it says you are currently banned, so can you place a cache when you are banned? SS As part of a ban, forum posts and GS emails cannot be done so as much as he wants to, he cannot answer you. Sorry. To answer your question, caches cannot be placed by a banned cacher until the ban is lifted. Thanks. Quote Link to comment
+Scubasonic Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 We find a location that is focused on rock climbing and hide a 5 star cache there, do you think there would be a problem with getting the cache listing approved? Permission from property owner granted with provided phone number. Climbing waivers at the beginning of trailhead to cache. All special equipment listed. The cache is a 80 foot rappel to cache hide or a 40 foot ascent once you hook the ropes in. Cache is secured to rock wall "40" plus feet above the ground. Currently there is a problem with the cache reviewer and logging the actual cache. They are concerned with log deletions for cachers who sit at the bottom of the cliff and watch and log the find without attempting getting to the cache location. Listing says you must reach and sign the log yourself to get a find. Any input? I am open to suggestions. When I looked at your profile it says you are currently banned, so can you place a cache when you are banned? SS You realize this post was from last December, right? I just brought the thread up because of something MtnGoat50 (a local cacher) brought up. No I didn't......................................... thank you for pointing this out for me. SS Quote Link to comment
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