M.TEX Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Ok I know that could be a strange question but let's start this way.... I know pocket knives are a NO on the rules , BUT IF I hide a cache in such way that need some kind of " TOOL " to be found / opem is that also against the rules ? Do you walk in the woodsand city without a pocket knife or multitool ? I can't see myself without a pocket knife in any day.... So IF a cache need to be opem with a screwdriver is that also a NO on the rules ??? PLEASE let me know. Thanks Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Needing a tool to open a cache is not against the rules. I don't think it is all that great an idea though. If you must do it please make sure you mention the need on the cache page. Quote Link to comment
mtbikernate Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I am working on a cache placement that will require a tool to retrieve the cache. BUT, the hiding spot is about as visibly obvious as it gets, and I plan to list the cache as a mystery cache because finders need to solve a riddle to learn what that tool is. I haven't submitted it yet because I'm still tweaking the hiding spot to make sure folks can't circumvent the intended method to retrieve the cache. The hiding spot is a pretty typical thing you might find in that sort of location, so finding a cache there would be rather unusual. I've just had to "harden" it to be cacher-proof, because in its 'natural' state, it would be amazingly easy to force your way into the hide without the tool mentioned by the puzzle. Quote Link to comment
+dexter-cacher Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Leaving knives and such behind as swag is a definite no-no. That being said, if your cache requires a special something in order to get to it, retrieve it or open it, you should add it to the cache page as a requirement. Nothing worse then hiking out for a cache, getting to GZ, making the discovery and finding out that you need a torx screwdriver, a 30 ft ladder and a jug of mollasses. Well maybe no one will ever need all that but you get the picture. Quote Link to comment
M.TEX Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 Thanks guys.... Yeap for sure people will know and read all about it as soon I get ready to place my cache. I would like to know more details about your cache Mtbikernate ....sound fun. Quote Link to comment
+Cache O'Plenty Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I see nothing wrong with using pretty standard pocket tools as well as some unique TOTTs when retrieving caches. And, sometimes to even open them. Standard to me includes: Magnet on an extendable rod (sold in auto supply stores for parts retrieval) Tweezers Mirrors (like a dental tool or those again sold in auto stores) Reacher/Grabbers - used to reach high shelves Normal Swiss Army pocket knife with acccessories Multi-tool - sometimes Trekking pole - also to remove annoying spiders. Any others??? Quote Link to comment
M.TEX Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 Naaaah....I don't think I will be that dumb.... But the GEOCACHER will need to have his on tool...I will NOT leave anything close or inside that is against the game rules... I did ask about the pocket knife , tool , just to make sure.... Like I said before , I CAN NOT see someone going for even a short walk in the woods without some BASIC equipament. NOT a good idea.... BTW I live in Massachusetts Mtbikernate. I don't know what did you say...did you say something ? Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I see nothing wrong with using pretty standard pocket tools as well as some unique TOTTs when retrieving caches. And, sometimes to even open them. Standard to me includes: Magnet on an extendable rod (sold in auto supply stores for parts retrieval) Tweezers Mirrors (like a dental tool or those again sold in auto stores) Reacher/Grabbers - used to reach high shelves Normal Swiss Army pocket knife with acccessories Multi-tool - sometimes Trekking pole - also to remove annoying spiders. Any others??? At least one three section telescoping painter's extention pole, available from any home improvement store for about $20. That, a roll of duct tape, and a hook made of coat hanger wire will come in awfully handy sooner or later. I have two of them and can duct tape them together if I need to. Quote Link to comment
M.TEX Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 Yeap I see some people here like the same stuff I like it. FLASHLIGHT it's a must have ! even in the day hours.... Backpack with first aid kit , and toilet paper.... just to be safe ! I know some people that used Poison Ivy !!!! wow also a light weight jacket even when it's hot ( it's all about your Area....and season ) MOSQUITO are bad and so other bugs....( Bugs spray on spring and Summer ) and the list keeps going and going.... Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 (edited) A FLAK jacket, a Nomex jumpsuit, a Kevlar vest... oh, wait... I thought you meant the forums. that's different. nevermind. Edited December 4, 2009 by knowschad Quote Link to comment
mtbikernate Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I see nothing wrong with using pretty standard pocket tools as well as some unique TOTTs when retrieving caches. And, sometimes to even open them. Standard to me includes: Magnet on an extendable rod (sold in auto supply stores for parts retrieval) Tweezers Mirrors (like a dental tool or those again sold in auto stores) Reacher/Grabbers - used to reach high shelves Normal Swiss Army pocket knife with acccessories Multi-tool - sometimes Trekking pole - also to remove annoying spiders. Any others??? I would add a good length of string to the kit. I consider the swiss army knife/multitool the same class of tools. Pliers, screwdrivers, tweezers, and stuff like that can all be part of the tool. I am planning a cache hide where a long extendable pole with a hook will probably be necessary at certain times of year, since my planned location is in a floodplain and the forest's rules requires that caches not be submerged. So I need to paddle into the area during high water in the spring to hide the cache. This one by itself will probably take just about all day. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 By the way, the best telescoping mirrors come from small engine repair shops, not from Wal-Mart, etc. The most common ones are about the size of a dental mirror, and useless for most tasks. Spend a little more for one where the mirror is at least 2" in diamete like thisr: http://www.skygeek.com/ats-e22.html Quote Link to comment
+Cache O'Plenty Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 By the way, the best telescoping mirrors come from small engine repair shops, not from Wal-Mart, etc. The most common ones are about the size of a dental mirror, and useless for most tasks. Spend a little more for one where the mirror is at least 2" in diamete like thisr: http://www.skygeek.com/ats-e22.html I found a rectangular one that's 2"x3" whose extention handle is 12" long - perfect! Found it at one of the auto stores (Kragen or Pep Boys - don't remember which). Fit's real nicely in the back pocket. Quote Link to comment
+HouseOfDragons Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 There are several caches near me that require tools of some description to open them - I've got one myself. This is clear on the cache page, although not specific about which tool you'll need. they're usually very popular as they're a bit different from the norm. Quote Link to comment
grammynmaggie Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I am bringing this to the top...maybe some other newbe's like me would be interested...and maybe some more can be added to it thanks G&M Quote Link to comment
+Ltljon Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Nothing worse then hiking out for a cache, getting to GZ, making the discovery and finding out that you need a torx screwdriver, a 30 ft ladder and a jug of mollasses. Well maybe no one will ever need all that but you get the picture. Yea really. Like who goes hiking with a torx screwdriver anyways...... Quote Link to comment
aginsa Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 How about a shovel? Quote Link to comment
+power69 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 How about a shovel? uh oh Quote Link to comment
aginsa Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 LOL On the serious side I would have to say a camera. Quote Link to comment
+LuckyPlan Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 It's also nice to bring a mini crow bar, like a large, strong flat head screwdriver. This is especially important if you are hiking out for an ammo can. Those ammo cans can get stuck shut pretty well. The other day I had to bang one with a rock to open after not being found for 6 months. Quote Link to comment
+nittanycopa Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Tweezers, screwdrivers, knife or file...all handy. May or may not be good to place a note on the cache page if the log is difficult to retrieve or cache is difficult to open. If it requires equipment simply to arrive at the GZ like a boat, ladder, dive suit, climbing gear, etc. that's essential to mention and adjust the terrain level to match. Quote Link to comment
+railroader921 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 unique tools I thought of: Ladder, Flashlight, Binoculars, Climbing Gear, Fishing Pole, Magnets, mirrors, sun dial, string, plumb bob, box end wrench Quote Link to comment
TheCacheSeeker Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Don't forget to add the tools required attribute. Quote Link to comment
+power69 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I haven't submitted it yet because I'm still tweaking the hiding spot to make sure folks can't circumvent the intended method to retrieve the cache. good luck with THAT! Never underestimate the power of denying someone a smilie. make the riddle easy or you'll have a high maint hide. Quote Link to comment
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